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qwints Mafia Scum
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T S O Survivor
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DrDolittle Jack of All Trades
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Actually quints is the one that was assuming you are scum, as well as one of the people who unvotedIn post 44, T S O wrote:
You're assuming that I am scum, as well as one of the people who unvoted.In post 41, DrDolittle wrote: Have you found what was interesting in the quick unvotes for TSO?
Go on, let's see some names then.-
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You make no sense.In post 69, qwints wrote:Dr. Dolittle votes grey for grey's response to silver. Doesn't like the run-up on Silver, then jumps from the grey wagon to start a new wagon and stops addressing grey, the main source of the Silver wagon.
If Doolittle thought the Silver wagon was scum-driven, why switch to a less effective wagon? Why drop their expressed belief that the Silver-Grey interaction made Grey look bad? Why not defend Silver at all rather than starting a new wagon, and not pushing the case at all? Why be over-defensive to a naked vote?
That's why Doolittle is scum.
"then jumps from the grey wagon to start a new wagon and stops addressing grey, the main source of the Silver wagon. "
I said that I didn't like the speed of the wagon The speed of the wagon has nothing to do with the first vote.
Grey's vote was clearly just a weak read based on nothing very substantial, while burn's eagerness to jump on Silver ticked me off
" Why not defend Silver at all"
Because he can defend himself just fine.
"Why be over-defensive to a naked vote?"
burn's vote was not naked. my vote was naked. why are you over-defensive to my naked vote?-
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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Vote Count IV
The Silver Bard (3): burn_209, T S O, JKLM
burn_209 (3) - DrDolittle, The Silver Bard, iamausername
DrDolittle (2) - qwints, 4nxi3ty
SonOfZeus (2) - inte, greygnarl
greygnarl(1) - The General
JKLM (1) - SonOfZeus
Not Voting: Rosso Carne
With thirteen a live it is seven to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-11 12:59:44)Last edited by Empking on Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:44 pm, edited 2 times in total.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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4nxi3ty Mafia Scum
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his first reaction to being attacked is to throw a bunch of questions at his attacker. Do you see what he is hinting at with those questions?In post 66, iamausername wrote:talk to me about DrDolittle. i'm not seeing it.
and its not like his own reasoning is much better than burn's, so why is voting burn over everyone else on the wagon:In post 41, DrDolittle wrote:On the other hand, burn's posts seem like vacillating bullshit.burn wrote:It just seems like a lot of bullshit-
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T S O Survivor
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Well, thanks for answering my suspicions.In post 79, DrDolittle wrote:TSO is stupid but not scum.
When someone calls you scum, you answer why, not call them stupid. It's a shitty tactic which never works.
Let's not forget PYP, Dr.Dolittle.-
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greygnarl Mafia Scum
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No, he's either scum or idiot town, but 100& he is not the vig.In post 75, qwints wrote:Raise your hand if you lynch silver tomorrow if there's only one nk.-
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The Silver Bard Goon
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You should stop talking about vigilanties, you are making a fool out of yourself...In post 83, greygnarl wrote:
No, he's either scum or idiot town, but 100& he is not the vig.In post 75, qwints wrote:Raise your hand if you lynch silver tomorrow if there's only one nk.-
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For this I change my mindIn post 67, greygnarl wrote:UNVOTE:
Now that we've eliminated the possibility of conftown because scum would never try out move out of RVS we can move on.
VOTE: SonOfZeus
That blanket statement reeks of overconfident scum trying to score townpoints by defending a townie.
VOTE: greygnarl
Please go die.-
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no? they seem like reasonable questions to me. i mean, the last one is a little dense, but i'm not seeing scummy intentions in it.In post 81, 4nxi3ty wrote: his first reaction to being attacked is to throw a bunch of questions at his attacker. Do you see what he is hinting at with those questions?
'vacillating' tho. that's a Dolittle original, and, no messing, it makes all the difference. well, that and all of the, you know,and its not like his own reasoning is much better than burn's, so why is voting burn over everyone else on the wagon:In post 41, DrDolittle wrote:On the other hand, burn's posts seem like vacillating bullshit.burn wrote:It just seems like a lot of bullshitvacillating bullshitthat you cut out from burn's posts to make it look like Dolittle is doing the same thing he's attacking burn for, when that wasn't actually the vase at all.
the point is that burn's vote on silver is full of unfocused and slapdash reasoning like he's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
wheras Dolittle's reasoning is hyperfocused; "it's vacillating bullshit." pow. done. nothing more needs to be said. would that everyone could make cases as succinctly as that.
so yeah, i completely reject your premise. his reasoningismuch better than burn's.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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4nxi3ty Mafia Scum
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it is similar to OMGUS. My guess is DrDolittle is hoping to introduce ideas like "qwints is scummy for not unvoting right away", discrediting the attack. Look at his latest question . . . qwints accuses him of being over-defensive. DrDolittle turns around and makes the same accusation.
I go back n forth on burn's posts, myself. But the point is to show the similarity in their statements. Put the burden on DrDolittle to show how his accusation differs from burn's, and why burn over others who jumped on the wagon.
(and don't be silly ^.^
adding an adjective to 'bullshit' makes very little difference in this conversation
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greygnarl Mafia Scum
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Glad to see we can always make votes without explanation.In post 87, JKLM wrote:
For this I change my mindIn post 67, greygnarl wrote:UNVOTE:
Now that we've eliminated the possibility of conftown because scum would never try out move out of RVS we can move on.
VOTE: SonOfZeus
That blanket statement reeks of overconfident scum trying to score townpoints by defending a townie.
VOTE: greygnarl
Please go die.-
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No, you're worried, because you didn't say it until I called you scum.In post 90, DrDolittle wrote: TSO: I'm not worried that you called me scum. I just want to point out a statement.
D'awwww.-
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The Silver Bard Goon
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OK. Time to put up some reads:
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Burn_209:He is my main scumread. I have covered some of it in earlier posts, but I’ll try to summarize. I think him joining the wagon on me is opportunistic and poorly reasoned. His remaining posts are him tunneling me, still with poor reasons and where he is (intentional?) misreading me.
qwints:I find his way of posting very strange. His 27 seems like soft accusations on those moving away from voting TSO, what are the motive behind this post? 40 : I don’t like this post, a vote on DrDolittle without any reasoning. 69: His explanation to why DrDolittle is scum is poorly reasoned, and I don’t agree with him at all. 75: I let this one slide yesterday because maybe he was fishing for information from others by doing this, now that window have passed, those who wanted to answer this have answered. When I read it my first thought was, is he trying to set me up for a day 2 lynch? And is he trying to do it by letting other do the dirtywork, him just softpushing me? I find his post strange.
Leaning scum:
JKLM:Two posts, two votes. No reasoning. This is something that I get suspicious of.
Null:
Inte, Rosso Carne, The general, 4nxi3ty, SonOfZeus.The General I am a bit suspicious of, since he promised to post, and haven’t followed up. The rest of my nulls have either posted too little for me to make up my mind about them, or have posted stuff that I find both townie and scummy.
Leaning town:
TSO:Even though he has posted a lot of posts I don’t like. And even though I have a hard time reading him he is at least providing reasons to why he thinks I am scum (even though I find his reasoning bad.
greygnarl:There is a couple of post of him that may indicate that he is town. I will leave it at that for now.
Town:
DrDolittle:I pretty much like all that he has done this game. His views are pretty much synced with mine. And I am a sucker for anyone stopping a bad wagon. The only thing I would like is more reasons behind his vote.
Iamusername:Haven’t posted a lot. But his posts are logical and his reasoning is good. The only thing against him is his low postcount.-
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The Silver Bard Goon
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If it is TSO you are referring to: I am leaning town on him for the effort he have put in. In general scum don't want to get into big arguements as it also puts focus on them. Of course it may be a scummove to find a target to tunnel to seem active, and this might be the case here, but at the moment I find it more likely that he is (bad) town.In post 94, SonOfZeus wrote:Bard, why do you townread someone off of what you perceive to be bad reasoning for wanting you lynched? And if you think he's town, why have you spent no time trying to convince him that you are town, and instead have posted basically useless reads, especially when you're about to be lynched?
I usually spend little time trying to convince others I am town, if my posting in general can't do it then so be it. And I am not about to get lynched...
Also why do you think my reads are useless? Is there nothing you can read from them? Is there nothing in them that makes you think I am townier or scummier? Is there nothing in them that you agree or disagree with? Didn't you just post a reply in regards to them? If nothing else it gave you something to ask me about.-
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that reads list looked like towneffort to me - I mean effort came after wagon decreased - scum usually posts reads for the opposite reason
their useless to me. Since you are now an obstacle to the dolittle lynch.In post 95, The Silver Bard wrote:Also why do you think my reads are useless?-
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I believe qwints was talking about his own naked vote btwIn post 78, DrDolittle wrote:"Why be over-defensive to a naked vote?"
burn's vote was not naked. my vote was naked. why are you over-defensive to my naked vote?
still want to hear what specific posts from burn were vascillating.-
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what does the timing in which he posted his reads have to do with it?In post 97, 4nxi3ty wrote:that reads list looked like towneffort to me - I mean effort came after wagon decreased - scum usually posts reads for the opposite reason
their useless to me. Since you are now an obstacle to the dolittle lynch.In post 95, The Silver Bard wrote:Also why do you think my reads are useless?
"scum usually post reads for the opposite reason" - what the fuck does this even mean and what does it have to do with the timing of his readsShowW(eed)/L: 420/2
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