Micro 273: There is Trouble in Paradise (Game Over)
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Wisdom Of the One
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I explained to you why at least two of your scumreads are wrong. Did you do anything to check if I'm right? Did you check whether kaze is always confident like this and whether YKV is always a VI? No? Then how do you expect to change your mind? People are not going to change their playstyles because you don't like them.
pedit: I also explained why what you pointed out about Jason is null at best.-
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The fact you are suspecting others doesn't make Kat town. That's what you dont understand. You have to judge each player individually because you don't know if any of your other reads are right.In post 599, Deltabacon wrote:Sure, I'm doing that for Kat but that's because I'm going for the people who I feel are more likely to be scum.-
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I don't do meta, Wisdom. I refuse to look back at someone else's games because then that's making decisions in this game based on another game with totally different conditions, different players, different roles, different methods. I do not use it. That's final.
This is why I'm wrong? Yeah no, that's a bad reason. I'm pretty sure that I can be considered as the VI in 90% of the games I play, but I don't -lie- to state my case. It's not town-like.In post 539, Wisdom wrote:
He's just always a VIIn post 536, Deltabacon wrote:What do you think of YKV openly lying in order to push his read, more to the point?
With Kaze, there's confident town, then there's arrogant town, then there's scum. He is in the latter two and probably the last one methinks. After I've asked him what must be approaching 10 times to put his reasonings behind his vote/suspicion of me, he's shot me down. As such, I've got nothing to defend against and because I slipped up in RVS and everyone saw it, he's getting away with it because no-one's putting me anywhere near the top of their town lists.
Also it's pissing me the fuck off the way he can get away with not making a case, yet I'm having to justify myself for people who I'm not even voting. Why don't you question him, maybe you'll be able to get blood from the stone.
NINJA: I'm not treating Kat as Town, I'm treating her as not-as-likely-to-be-scum-because-there-are-people-who-are-scummier.-
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In post 440, Deltabacon wrote:
Ahahaha, purely because that was such a good giggle, here you go!YellowKingValley wrote:
I call tosh. Unless you can give examples,In post 432, Deltabacon wrote:You seem determined to falsely represent everything that players you have as leaning scum say in order to fit your reads, not the other way round.you'rediscreditingme.
Spoiler:
All of the above, as well as:
In post 259, YellowKingValley wrote:Delta lurked while the wagon is on him... hmm... not planning to defend himself? Did he plan to lurk the wagon off?
I think Jason is intentionally lurking.In post 329, YellowKingValley wrote:
When? And are you going to answer my questions in post 76?In post 311, Deltabacon wrote:You'll see more of me!
@Kaze, perhaps I should say great players?Spoiler: This misrep, I like a lot:
In post 407, YellowKingValley wrote:Delta called our accusations bullshitwhile trying to avoid clarifying why it's bullshit. Typical scum behaviour.
Kaze I'm disappointed with you...In post 408, YellowKingValley wrote:
What can we do if youIn post 402, Deltabacon wrote:He could have probably produced and bullshitted an argument that would have seen me lynched, but can't be bothered or can't find reasoning.intentionally lurkedto avoid answering our questions? And now it's our fault?In post 441, Kazekirimaru wrote:I don't think expecting you to follow through with your "incoming in 5 hours" bit qualifies as discrediting.
You're welcome.In post 442, Deltabacon wrote:Saying that I promised to answer questions that I wasn't aware of and didn't make any mention of does though.-
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YellowKingValley Mafia Scum
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Seems like you just listed all my posts suggesting that you are scum. Some of my post that you highlighted can't even be classified as jumping to conclusions, or in your words misrep. For example:
In post 259, YellowKingValley wrote:Delta lurked while the wagon is on him... hmm... not planning to defend himself? Did he plan to lurk the wagon off?
Please explain how are they misreps.In post 329, YellowKingValley wrote:
When? And are you going to answer my questions in post 76?In post 311, Deltabacon wrote:You'll see more of me!-
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She is the Queen of "High"-borns.In post 607, Wisdom wrote:She has been the queen of misreps.-
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When you post "Jason is lurking on purpose", it is a misrep. You do not know what Jason's IRL schedule is, how much time he has for this game and whether he cares about this game at all. You jump to conclusions.
Knowing you, you're not doing it with scum intentions. It's just how you think. But don't be surprised if people scumread you for that.-
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Assuming that he is busy, he didn't clarify why he lurked. As town, it's not nice to pop in with some post on fridge topics just enough to avoid prodding and replacements without informing others that they are busy. It keeps others waiting, and messes up with their reads. Similarly, that's why I don't trust Delta and want him dead.In post 610, Wisdom wrote:When you post "Jason is lurking on purpose", it is a misrep. You do not know what Jason's IRL schedule is, how much time he has for this game and whether he cares about this game at all. You jump to conclusions.
I'll say bluntly that if anyone's answer to "whether he cares about this game at all" is "not", then that person should just replace out. Don't be a deadweight who joins games for the sake of joining.-
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Then no harm removing them early. Not that they will be any useful late game.In post 613, Wisdom wrote:Unfortunately, town never play like the ideal image of town you have in your mind. That's why all those stuff are null and jumping to conclusion based on those is ultra bad.-
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Correction. Not scummy townies. But deadweights.In post 615, Wisdom wrote:We have to lynch scum, not scummy townies.
Scummy townies who are interested in playing the game should be kept around.-
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How do you know that deadweights who didn't even bother posting are not scum?In post 617, Wisdom wrote:Don't hop over the point. We have to lynch scum, not anything that is not scum.-
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Claim is null. Scum will only claim PR when they are sure they are going to die.In post 619, Wisdom wrote:In delta's case, the claim, and I can actually understand his thought processes now.
His thought processes. Null for disliking my exaggerated accusations. Scum for adding in legitimate accusations.
Behaviour to pressure is scum.-
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And he wasn't?In post 621, YellowKingValley wrote:Scum will only claim PR when they are sure they are going to die.-
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What?In post 621, YellowKingValley wrote:. Scum for adding in legitimate accusations.-
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No.In post 622, Wisdom wrote:And he wasn't?
Initial accusation is not strong.
Too early for lynch.
Lacked support from remaining voters.
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