Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

[GuyInFreezer]

1 i think you're town gif don't worry

2 notscience is scum please vote him i need you and your legion of towniness

1 <3
2 I will eventually once I get over this overly-large paranoia on nacho for some reason, but not D1.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also nacho wagon's not really a leading wagon since it's composed of RVS vote + paranoid vote + actual vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also I haven't seen F-16 posting for a while :<

[Jessica]

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i don't care if it bothers my other head, if i do it then i'm still doing it

Well yours is short bursts of inactivity so I'm fine with that.

and just because my other head reads gif as null(scum)/w.e due to that doesn't mean it's affecting my read on him

(also don't give me that "hydras are supposed to consolidate reads" bs, we're working on that but we're arguing over gif so it might take a while)

We should like, argue on thread and not discuss outside at all. That'll be fun!

I've argued this with Marquis that just because he has the highest postcount and seems have a fetish with the Submit button doesn't mean he's conf town.

Something tells me that you haven't been reading my posts

The dissonance here is Marquis got the townvibes from kind of seeing your consistent posting without having to actually look at them, and if I know them it's more of a gutread. I don't want them to be too hasty because I've got paranoia about these type of things which is why I said null. Not because I think you're scum but because I don't want to actually look for things on alllllll these posts.

[Jessica]

- H.

[notscience]

1 i think you're town gif don't worry

2 notscience is scum please vote him i need you and your legion of towniness

1 <3
2 I will eventually once I get over this overly-large paranoia on nacho for some reason, but not D1.

Bite me, GIf

I'm getting a townfeel off Jessica, I haven't seen either of them as scum but both tunnel a fair amount and they're going to kick and flail unless you guys rope me

(btw this is when you say "OMG BUDDYING US COZ ATTACK YOU AND ITS NONGENUINE")

[BROseidon]

There COULD be a scenario where Bro found nacho's 83 scummy hence the vote, but then if he did,

he would've voted him right there. Instead, the vote came for reason after post 83.

The only post between that and his cote is nacho's vote on BRO with no reasoning.

Why are you lying about game flow?

[BROseidon]

To be crude, did you break the setup? No.
Then it classifies as "trying to break the setup."

Is there scum endeavor to "try to break the setup?" Sure. To look town. All you have to do is "fail" and boom.

So until the setup is 100% broken with the plan, all the speaks of breaking setup is flat-out null.

I broke it.

Nobody's listening to me.

Not my fault everyone's a moron.

[BROseidon]

And I think it's about time we get a readlist out of BRO.

Ghatokaka scum.

One of you/Varsoon/X-dude scum.

Rest town.

[BROseidon]

Aside from you and GiF, I'm not sure who he'd be afraid of, and GiF's a guess. And no, I'm not being disingenuous by leaving myself off that list, given how thoroughly BRO snookered me in NY 165 and would have in bork's Mini Touhou.

There's nobody on this list that I'm afraid of playing from either side. There is almost nobody on this site that I'm not confident in my ability to beat as either alignment if I bring my A-game.

[BROseidon]

BRO, stepping back from their attack on you, if you're town,

what else that's gone down so far is useful?

Is this referring to events over the entire game, or specifically in my interactions with Ghato?

[BROseidon]

A couple of thoughts I'd put out there before I head off. I'm a little busier now that's school started, so I may not always have time to do longer posts, but I'll always be reading.

Moving on.

I'm not sure how I feel about NS being scum just because his posts are off.

Then again, I haven't played with him ever, but just because his posts aren't what you expect of his townself doesn't mean he's scum. Varsoon did say he's been off(or something) in his recent games, so it could very well be a change in play style.

NS don't really have posts that strike me as towny, with the exception of 202 where he made some efforts to contribute to town. But other than that everything he's posted has been kinda bleh. I wouldn't mind lynching him.

Varsoon's town for me. After he brought up the no hiding thing and all the thought he put into set up, I'm pretty confident he's town. There's no scum-motivation in doing that. Strongest townread so far.

Penguin's town for me too. More recent posts have a lot more content, but doesn't post a lot. Enough for me to say he's towny though.

bubba needs to post more.

The other half of the player list I'm not really sure. I'll have to go through their posts soon. For the beginning of the game I felt GiF was towny, but that may be because he's just posting a lot. I'll have to look through his posts again.

Not sure what to think about Bro.

Can't read the hydras for nuts.

This in particular I'm not a fan of (in reference to my reads list)

[penguin_alien]

Aside from you and GiF, I'm not sure who he'd be afraid of, and GiF's a guess. And no, I'm not being disingenuous by leaving myself off that list, given how thoroughly BRO snookered me in NY 165 and would have in bork's Mini Touhou.

There's nobody on this list that I'm afraid of playing from either side. There is almost nobody on this site that I'm not confident in my ability to beat as either alignment if I bring my A-game.

'Afraid' probably wasn't the right word there. Prioritizing to neutralize as scum is more accurate.

BRO, stepping back from their attack on you, if you're town,

what else that's gone down so far is useful?

Is this referring to events over the entire game, or specifically in my interactions with Ghato?

Either, actually, but more the rest of the game and their non-you interactions. Until your recent reads list, I didn't have much of a sense of what your other thoughts were. My gut says this is town-you and doesn't trust Ghatokaca's reactions here, and if that's accurate, your reads are darn useful. Based on #333, I assume you don't see GiF and Varsoon as partners? How would you rank that second-string list?

I tend to agree about Xayzeck's reads list not in light of yours but more in light of that it includes the high-volume posters, and while he's deferring reading them, it reads more like they're null right now. Which, I get being hesitant about you and Ghatokaca, but GiF as well?

GiF, what I don't quite jive with on Jessica is that this doesn't feel like the town-Marquis I've played with. Within the hydra he looks townier than normal, especially with his other head posting a lot in a very stream-of-consciousness way. I'll trust your bubba read for now though.

BRO, I assume you still like your basically circular plan similar to Medical Mafia strategy, except that presumably we'd pick someone to pre-hypoclaim , and their target claims, etc.?

@penguin: Why haven't you voted yet?

I don't like the BRO wagon at this point, and I'm torn between you and Ghatokaca. I was thinking Ghatokaca, but then your list where you throw up your hands at the people who are the center of attention bugs me. (also, I'm a she, FYI)

[GuyInFreezer]

There COULD be a scenario where Bro found nacho's 83 scummy hence the vote, but then if he did,

he would've voted him right there. Instead, the vote came for reason after post 83.

The only post between that and his cote is nacho's vote on BRO with no reasoning.

Why are you lying about game flow?

What exactly have I lied about the game flow?
Go look for yourself. There's your post commenting on nacho/f-16's 83, but there's no vote.
it implies that you didn't find him scummy enough to cast a vote on them.
And then you commented on my post, and then you proceeded to vote nacho.
Whatever you found scummy off of them, it must've been the posts after 83.
What's after the post 83? Nacho's vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

Didn't find that post*

[GuyInFreezer]

And I think it's about time we get a readlist out of BRO.

Ghatokaka scum.

One of you/Varsoon/X-dude scum.

Rest town.

That's like
calling half of the player list scum.
Cool.

[GuyInFreezer]

@penguin:stream-of-consciousness is something that would come more from... town, dontcha think?

[penguin_alien]

Hence finding the slot towny at this point (as opposed to earler) even though I'm not seeing the town-Marquis I'd expect.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh.
I must've misunderstood your post then.

[GuyInFreezer]

In my experience BRO's the type of player who likes to take advantage of mechanics. I think scum-BRO could come up with a way to lead town down the garden path in a plan of action.

Not quite what you mean by "garden path."

[GuyInFreezer]

Not quite sure*

[penguin_alien]

In my experience BRO's the type of player who likes to take advantage of mechanics. I think scum-BRO could come up with a way to lead town down the garden path in a plan of action.

Not quite what you mean by "garden path."

Sorry, it's a phrase that means to deceive a person, implying that the victim(s) are being lulled into not noticing the deception.

[BROseidon]

What exactly have I lied about the game flow?
Go look for yourself. There's your post commenting on nacho/f-16's 83, but there's no vote.
it implies that you didn't find him scummy enough to cast a vote on them.
And then you commented on my post, and then you proceeded to vote nacho.
Whatever you found scummy off of them, it must've been the posts after 83.
What's after the post 83? Nacho's vote.

All my posts are consecutive.

Would your opinion change if I'd written a wall instead of spam-posted?

No?

Congrats, you're lying about game flow.

[BROseidon]

Either, actually, but more the rest of the game and their non-you interactions. Until your recent reads list, I didn't have much of a sense of what your other thoughts were. My gut says this is town-you and doesn't trust Ghatokaca's reactions here, and if that's accurate, your reads are darn useful. Based on #333, I assume you don't see GiF and Varsoon as partners? How would you rank that second-string list?

I tend to agree about Xayzeck's reads list not in light of yours but more in light of that it includes the high-volume posters, and while he's deferring reading them, it reads more like they're null right now. Which, I get being hesitant about you and Ghatokaca, but GiF as well?

GiF, what I don't quite jive with on Jessica is that this doesn't feel like the town-Marquis I've played with. Within the hydra he looks townier than normal, especially with his other head posting a lot in a very stream-of-consciousness way. I'll trust your bubba read for now though.

BRO, I assume you still like your basically circular plan similar to Medical Mafia strategy, except that presumably we'd pick someone to pre-hypoclaim , and their target claims, etc.?

GiF/Varsoon don't make sense as partners b/c Ghatokaca is scum. I haven't worked out any argument from their interactions themselves.

I rank that second list as GiF/Xay/Varsoon. The issue I have with Xay's list is that he goes out of his way to talk about how unsure he is about so many people.

I don't know the medical mafia circular strat.

[GuyInFreezer]

All my posts are consecutive.

I know.

Would your opinion change if I'd written a wall instead of spam-posted?

Nope.

No?

No.

Congrats, you're lying about game flow.

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Nope. It just means that your posts were consecutive, which is... what I based my theory on.