Open 548-WiFom City: The Invasion (Over)

[Rottweiler]

Greymarble is not happening.

make it fucking happen

[iamausername]

Btw, from my PoV an Aisa lynch is nearly as bad as a lynch of myself, I would only grudgingly compromise to this...

^seems unlikely to come from scum MTD in this situation.

[iamausername]

Greymarble is not happening.

make it fucking happen

no.

[Rottweiler]

Then dont call me stubborn. YOU refuse to lynch the most dangerous scum.

[iamausername]

i'm refusing to vote for a town read.

you're refusing to vote for a scum read because it's not the one you've been pushing the whole game and you think you're john wayne.

[Rottweiler]

The reason I think Aisa is scum assumes Grey is scum. If I agreed with you that Grey is town, then Aisa is just like MTD - wagoned for doing nothing scummy and I'd not vote her in a million years.

[iamausername]

if you think Aisa is more likely scum than MTD, you should vote Aisa. the reasons why you think she's more likely scum are irrelevant at this point. MTD is 100% going to be lynched if you can't get off your high horse and accept a compromise.

[Rottweiler]

Again, you are the one who refuses to vote the obvscum, so don't blame me for any mislynch.

[MTD]

actually, iam, why do you think an aisa lynch is more probable than a grey lynch?
AFAIK, you are the

only

person voting aisa right now, while there are 3 votes on grey.

[iamausername]

yeah, you're right. forgot that beastcharizard bailed earlier as well. there's no hope.

UNVOTE: Aisa
VOTE: MTD

[MTD]

that's hammer i think

[Rottweiler]

congratulations on being retarded

[MTD]

Yep, it is.
If you didn't know, you're stupid, if you did, dito.

[Rottweiler]

If any of you actually care about the game tomorrow, read 524 and fucking listen to me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You think I'm scum with Aisa and Gret?

[Profont]

however the case you have presented is much better and this is what i am willing to follow for now.

What "case" did I present? I only looked at a few of MTD's posts and voted him being more townreads on wagon logic.

There are several inconsistencies about you that I want answered toMorrow.

Greymarble: 3/10. Call this a slight townread but I liked Sakura's genuineness in one of her posts, and the lack of self-awareness.

There was absolutely no genuineness in Sakura's posts.

If we're both still alive let's talk about it on Day 2.

Again, I *want* to say Wisdom is town - my gut is feeling it. Hm.

I agree with this but does it make ika scum? He's doing something blatantly scummy, though I know his scum meta is pretty darn bad (Olympian Gods). Hmm.

I have no idea why Wisdom is defending us. We've both been pretty disconnected from this game, and it shows

Olympian gods is not a good example. He replaced in after tons of pages, in a heavily suspected scumslot, there was not much he could do. Here it's a quiet game, which means he didn't need much effort to get in. My gut keep fellng me he's town, but I could see him being scum. I greatly dislike his wanting to lynch town as a way to figure out who is scum. That's what scum do to line up lunches. And he's doing it again now with MTD.

I don't care that you have been distant (I actually do, but it doesn't affect my read), I think you're quite obviously town from early on.

Hm, really? Can you tell me what posts affected your read?

You FoSed us and only really started to show the townread when you started defending us.

Note how he uses "you look scummy" instead of "You're scum for..." - finding things that are scummy is the mindset that you want to lynch someone you can justify. vs. finding reasons why someone is scum.

You are forcing yourself to find something scummy about MTD. There is nothing scummy about this. It could easily mean uncertainty from MTD's side. There is no necessity for town to show their confidence with "you are scum" statements all the time.

Note that MTD asked a question to ABR - "why hydras". ABR doesn't respond. Does MTD care about his question?

This too is bad. ABR is answering nothing to nobody. It's completely normal to become apathetic.

It's more than a little frustrating seeing all of my scumhunting skills shrivel up and die on mafiascum.

but at least this is better energy from everyone, ripe for analysis tomorrow.

You really think that you can analyze deadline lynches?

I've found them to be fairly useless in terms of info, because everyone switches at the last moment and they can easily justify their vote.

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As a general note, quit posturing about being killed - the scum will kill who they kill, and any speculation on it is pointless if we're going to see the answer in a couple of days.

it's cute how Rottweiler and Greymarble are both so sure they're going to be killed tonight.

^
I'm fine with the bulk of this being answered on Day 2.

~p

[Greymarble]

Rottweiler - notscience,

Albert R. Rampage

, Shockwave Rider,

Sakura Hana

Same.

Aisa - iamausername, beastcharizard, Hoopla, Shockwave Rider, Profont, GreyMarble

And the third scum should either be on here or is Aisa herself. I lean the latter because of GreyMarble avoiding voting her until it was inevitable - he tried to wagon ns instead, and now tries to wagon MTD. Also, Albert didn't hammer Aisa; I'd expect him to given his play.

Grey/Aisa/Albert.

I'm feeling cautiously optimistic about MTD's flip, but if we got it wrong then Shockwave, Aisa, Notscience and IAAU will be the first people I revisit.

[Rottweiler]

Translation: After MTD flips town like he knows he will, those are his next targets. With a partner thrown among the names for WIFOM, ofc.

[Titus]

Votecount 1.12 - Lynch

[L-3] GreyMarble - Aisa, Rottweiler, MTD
[L-6] Rottweiler - Albert R. Rampage
[L-0] MTD - Greymarble, beastcharizard, profont, ika, Hoopla, Shockwave Rider, iamausername

Not voting: notscience,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Day 1 Deadline is Wednesday, March 11, 2014 at 11:59 PST ((expired on 2014-03-11 23:59:59)).

MTD was lynched. He was a

Mafia Traitor.

The group shouted and yelled, insults were thrown. Speeches captivated the other members of Titus's royal guard. In the end though, it became clear to a majority of the group, MTD had to die. The group presented this evidence to Titus, for summary execution.

Titus hacked into her computer database and checked MTD's laptop. No evidence of MTD being involved in the original hacking of the database was found. Yet, this turned up evidence that the mafia sent him here to assist the main mafia scum. Was he actually recruited or not?

Unfortunately, Titus's blackmail prevents her from answering this question.

"Everyone, please return to your rooms. We will reconvene in 72 hours. That's at 5:15 PM PST, Friday March 14th! On that day, we're throwing me a birthday party too, just don't ask how old I am! For all you time challenged people out there.

That is (expired on 2014-03-14 16:15:00) from now.

"

Night chat is now open. Submit any actions via PM to me. Do not skype them. Mafia actions may be left in their QT.

[Titus]

Night 2 has ended. Day Flavor below

The group of WiFom City's defenders reassemble on Titus's birthday. A head count is conducted. The group is one player short. Titus walks around, looking for that special face that drives her crazy. Yet, mafia wouldn't be the same without it. It was the ying to her yang, in terms of mafia speak.

Maybe he just decided to punk us and not show up

, Titus thought to herself in denial of the obvious

I'll just grab a drink while I wait for him. He prefers drunk Titus. Plus, I bet he left a nice cake for me...

When Titus opens the door to the Mayor's bar, she doesn't immediately see her vodka, but the body of her friend

ika.

Crying inside, she hauls his body out of the liquor cabinet. She pours herself a nice stiff drink as she looks at his credentials. He was town..

Of course he can be town and not tunnell me

Titus gripes internally. In her drunk state, Titus puts on a mask that resembles ika's favorite face.

ika, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1

Day starts now and ends March 26th, 8:45 PM PST (expired on 2014-04-02 20:45:00)

Votecount 2.00

VOTE: Player to be Lynched - Voters
[L-6] Everybody - Nobody, Nobody, Nobody

Not voting: Everybody

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

[Shockwave Rider]

VOTE: Aisa

MTD's interactions with Beastcharizard suggest he's not scum. His interactions with Aisa slightly point to her being scum.

Rottweiler is still my second suspect.

[Greymarble]

Huh. We're alive. How confusing.

So we just hit the mafia traitor, folks. While busses do exist, scum don't know the identity of the traitor. We could have pushed an Aisa lynch and just rode it out and fought people day 2. We could have bussed.

If you think we read the entire game and just so happened to pick out the mafia traitor, as scum, we are either the luckiest hydra alive or have the reads of a god.

If we're town? Heh.

Anyway, me and llama have a few things we're thinking, but I admit we didn't devote any time to this overnight. My thoughts are that there was NO INCENTIVE for scum to do anything BESIDES jump on MTD, since MTD flipping "town" would completely discredit us, as well as probably result in our lynch and possibly Rotty's too.

[Greymarble]

Oh right!

[ika]

Q_Q

[Rottweiler]

Yer so it will be good to examine what mtd did to others, but mafia doesn't know the traitor so bussing doesnt really exist here because as far as mafia were concerned he was. Anyway we didnt think mtd was maf and in a way we were right. He was playing not as part of the mafia team so.......

Anyway I said all day NS is scum. Wis wasn't so sure but I am sure. Trust me I have played with NS enough to know he is scum.

When he was buddying us a little to start with I knew it and said to wis.
he's overforced his nonchalant town play with things like run up to L-1 and you are my town list. He's over doing it.
The reaction to Sakura seemed forced too like he was trying to come across angry and care as a townie and a person.

Anyway I'm sure he's scum cos I know him too well. Wis dominated yesterday today will be my turn. We will hit scum.

VOTE: notscience