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Its better to advocate the lynch of people who were trying to wagon now confirmed townies right?Cubsfan4ever wrote:uhh, by that logic shouldn't you be somewhat suspicious of the people advocating a lynch of AndrewS (including yourself).Additionally 6 of his 15 posts yesterday were trying to get momentum on a Jack lynch.
I wasn't saying Cubsfan killed Jack. My point was that Cubsfan was scummy yesterday - and now seeing that Jack is town - looking at who was adamant at trying to get him lynched is a fruitful endeavor. Nearly half of all of Cubsfan's posts were in some way attacking Jack. My theory is that he, as a mafia member, knew Jack was innocent - say that Jack's behavior was questionable and tried (unsuccessfully) to get a wagon going. I think its pretty obvious (unless there's an SK) that the Vig targeted Jack, Jack targeted the Vig, which would cause the Vig to Vig herself - and then Mafia targeted the Vig which led to Jack's death. Incredibly bad luck for us.Skruffs wrote:I'm confused. Isn't someone advocating the lynch of someone they thought of as scum beter than someone who just votes for them for the sake of avoiding no lynch?
What about *Everyone else* who thought Jack was scummy?
And considering he was a replacer, I think it's more likely that he replaced spots with someone who was killed, and that's why he died.![]()
Considering we now have proof of a vig (now dead) and no doctor left, it's also likely that the doctor killed someone - the same person jack replaced with - and that's why jack died. The mafia more likely than not killed the vig.
Vote : Yamahoko
I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the possibility of there being an SK, personally.Yamahako [359] wrote:I think its pretty obvious (unless there's an SK) that the Vig targeted Jack, Jack targeted the Vig, which would cause the Vig to Vig herself - and then Mafia targeted the Vig which led to Jack's death. Incredibly bad luck for us.
Spectrum, now that Andrew's role is confirmed, can you please clarify (with quotes or post numbers where applicable) what you were referring to here.spectrumvoid [312] wrote:I forgot something important that happened early game. For the record, I think AndrewS is not scum.
This isn't related to the game, and its not just you that does it - but my name is YamSkruffs wrote: Vote stays. Yamo is pretending to be town while being misleading.
An SK makes sense, but the problem with an SK is Jack would have to have not targeted anyoneMert wrote:Actually, the more I think about it, the more Yamahako's Post 359 worries me. Particularly the "I think its pretty obvious..." part.
I don't quite see how it's more obvious that there was a vig kill. As Thrawn said, I don't think a vig would necessarily kill on N1 and I don't see why Jack would swap with Hemisphere Dancer above all others.
I detect a slight reluctance to highlight the liklihood of there being an SK in his post so I'm going toVote: Yamahakofor the time being.
I'm not against the idea of a name claim, however I'm not sure what it will gain us. The only way it should is if mafia didn't get Anime-style claims. Though I supposed if the mafia are "Posing wannabe's" then they wouldn't have true anime... hmmmcuban smoker wrote:I think we should be able to learn a lot just from reading over day 1. For starters, I believe AbboTT was the first person to vote for AndrewS (doctor) yesterday, while Yamahako has not voted for AbboTT/Simenon. This makes me suspicious of both of them.
But I am more interested in ubertimmy, who stressed that he was a very bad lynch shortly before the deadline. We have now lost two power roles, which means the probability he actually is power role is much smaller now. Since ubertimmy is also alive, he is much more likely to be mafia than anyone else.
It is possible that a killer and Jack the replacer targetted ubertimmy, but this is not that likely.
I'd also strongly suggest we do a forced NAME-claim. You may have noted each of the dead townies has the name not of a anime character, but of a Manga. I don't think it can hurt the town to reveal our names. For instance, AndrewS was named Bleach, but Bleach is not about a doctor as far as I can tell.
It is important, if we do this name-claim, that we do it in an arbitrary order. Perhaps the mafia's Manga's are evil-themed, in which case they will have to pick another one. We should try and force mafia to go first so we have the chance to catch them with a counter-claim.
Kudos/Complaints encouraged re: name-claiming