Mini 1563 - Vampire: The Masquerade Mafia (Fourth Evening)

[Squirrel Girl]

I did give reads with basic explanations.

You gave out a lot of null reads. You actually gave out no scumreads despite finding your wagon as bad as you claim to. What are you going to do to sort your null reads out and maybe find scum?

My wagon had no logical explanation behind it. It was based off of an RVS post and I still don't understand it. They were voting me for claiming town. Which is pathetic. It only reeks of their incapabilities in the art of scumhunting.

So you don't think anyone voting you is particularly scum or town, just bad at scumhunting...but you also don't have any particular scum reads? Why, then, is it odd for them to be willing to vote you for a nullish act? If no one looks like scum then why not pressure someone just to see what happens?

[Aronis]

I did give reads with basic explanations.

You gave out a lot of null reads. You actually gave out no scumreads despite finding your wagon as bad as you claim to. What are you going to do to sort your null reads out and maybe find scum?

My wagon had no logical explanation behind it. It was based off of an RVS post and I still don't understand it. They were voting me for claiming town. Which is pathetic. It only reeks of their incapabilities in the art of scumhunting.

So you don't think anyone voting you is particularly scum or town, just bad at scumhunting...but you also don't have any particular scum reads? Why, then, is it odd for them to be willing to vote you for a nullish act? If no one looks like scum then why not pressure someone just to see what happens?

It's hard to find scum when people post once or twice the whole game. Unless you're one of those idiots.

[Squirrel Girl]

So you think scum is possibly a lurker?

Well, doesn't that mean you can rule out (or catch) scum in the active posters who you can see a lot of their opinions? Also, if you want to force a lurker to post more, probably asking them pointed questions or voting them and suggesting they're lurk scum would tend to make them have to muster a response, yes? I mean, maybe that's why people are voting you? I know it's why I'm asking you questions - you appear to be playing in a way to avoid giving many opinions or thoughts and it's making you hard to read for me. That's why I'm asking you so many questions and trying to force you to give thoughts. You're still making it hard, but that's what I'm doing here - couldn't you do the same to the people you're having issues with?

[Kagami]

Wait.

Just had an idea.

Is it possible that the scum don't have a nightkill, just a vitae steal?

Becuase my role PM says that if I have no vitae, I die. And I think I can assume that all the vampires have this. So it would make sense that this mechanic would be used by the scum instead of NKs. Becuase either way, it still results in townies dead (scum's objective).

Thoughts? Maybe I'm wrong, but it WOULD provide the balance to the diablarie coordinated nomming. (vitae steal would be, I think, less powerful than a NK)

They're ghouls, not carebears. They kill.

My role PM does

not

say that I die if I run out of vitae.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Game Specific Mechanics and Rules

Vitae

All vampires possess Vitae, that they consume to stay alive. At the start of each night, your available Vitae pool will decrease by 1. If this would reduce your Vitae to less than 0, you will enter torpor, removing you from the ranks of living players. (Example: Jesse has 1 Vitae left at the end of night 2. At the start of night 3, he will consume his last Vitae. If he doesn't get more before night 4, he will die at the start of night 4.).

[Aronis]

VOTE: MonkeyMan

Do something.

[Kagami]

...

Becuase

my role PM

says that if I have no vitae, I die.

...

[vonflare]

Of course we're just going to happen to 'miss' these posts aren't we?

I didn't miss them. I excluded them from my quote list because I did not find them terribly relevant.

And the moment I call you scummy, you edit your reads list to include me as scum? That is the definition of omgus.

[Aronis]

Of course we're just going to happen to 'miss' these posts aren't we?

I didn't miss them. I excluded them from my quote list because I did not find them terribly relevant.

And the moment I call you scummy, you edit your reads list to include me as scum? That is the definition of omgus.

Meta: I OMGUS constantly.

[vonflare]

Meta: so what? omgus is still a lack of effort, whether you always do it or not.

[vonflare]

And plus, I don't like your attempt at self-meta.

[Aronis]

Then go to hell.

It takes 7 people to lynch me.

[vonflare]

Jeez.

calm down.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[Kagami]

What?

[vonflare]

Ummm....

Weren't you JUST complaining about how squrrelgirl shouldn't use images?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What part of "sparingly" did you misunderstand?

And it was in response to Vonflare and Aronis' pissing match.

on the other hand,

Vote: Vonflare

[vonflare]

?

why?

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote Kagami

I don't like the "PR's have every incentive to be inactive" comment. It sounds like an excuse for PRs not to be active.

As for me I've played VTM a couple times but I'm not that well versed in it's lore, so I'm sort of soaking everything in right now.

[SpyreX]

MonkeyMan:
What do you think about the baby shitstorm right above where you posted.

Look I dont know if I'm going all the way around the horn but we're getting back to the old school scum playbook that has way to much overlap with bad town in Aronis. Help me parse it so I can lay it to rest

[d3x]

Vote:Monkey

[MonkeyMan576]

I think people are wagoning Aronis for little or no reason and are overreacting to him OMGUSing very early in the game. Granted, he may not be very helpful in future days because of his defensiveness, but I don't think he should be written off this early.

[vonflare]

So, if you had to choose RIGHT NOW, who would you lynch?

[Aronis]

So, if you had to choose RIGHT NOW, who would you lynch?

You.

[MonkeyMan576]

My #1 lynch right now would be kagami, but I wouldn't say it's a strong read.