Newbie 1494 -- Game Over

[Moonlight]

(Much of this was typed as I waited for the Night to end)

My humble apologies to every player in this game, especially Squirrel. Most of my frustration with her was genuine, but I exaggerated a bit. In particular, the part of asking for a 1 vs 1 was complete and utter bullshit.

I have noticed in my Town games that I tend to be a strong consideration for a night kill. I did not want that in this one.

The best idea I had was to convince the remaining scum that I would spend Day 2 in a pointless war against Squirrel.

Much of my confidence in my HSS read faded partly due to my own tendency to waffle and partly due to being confident in my read on Squirrel, resulting in paying attention to her doubts (CURSE YOU! <3). But his flip made this easy.

I tracked BC, who visited Tony.

VOTE: BC

[Moonlight]

As we wait for a counterclaim that won't be happening, why did you pick Tony? Just curious.

[BipolarChemist]

I didn't track anyone? Is this like a gambit or are you serious? That's hugely dangerous for each alignment. As town, making up a result is just asking to get both yourself and me lynched, putting us back quite a bit. As scum, you've just ended the game, as they lynch me, see I'm vanilla town, then lynch you, game end.

I was going to point out how scummy Rach's lock was yesterday, but I'm more interested in whatever the hell Moonlight is doing.

[Moonlight]

AWESOME.

Important:

I lied about who I tracked, but I am indeed a Tracker. I tracked Nacho, and he is clear.

Before you jump to the conclusion that lying is bad and lying means I'm scum, ask yourself how me not getting counterclaimed as Tracker is possible.

It isn't. If I was a Roleblocker, a Jailkeeper or Cop claim would get me lynched and Town wins. If I was a Goon, a real Tracker, Jailkeeper or Cop would too and Town wins. None of that is happening.

BC is someone that fits the bill as HSS' scumbuddy and I wanted to see his reaction. <_<

UNVOTE:

(And now I can stop refreshing the thread like a madman.)

[Moonlight]

I would have posted the above if you got to L-1 without replying.

You're now confTown with Nacho and me.

We've won.

[Moonlight]

Well, it's almost a win, they still have a pool of 3 other unconfirmed Townies. But it's looking real bad for scum now.

[Moonlight]

So... we have conman, Kenobi, Squirrel and Rach to worry about.

conman and Kenobi I feel GREAT about. It's one of the gals.

[BipolarChemist]

I'll buy this gambit for now. Like I mentioned, Rach's lock yesterday was scummy.

There was some time still left, and I even posted saying I was busy for the day. This should ring that I'm going to be posting, yet she claims the game was going nowhere and we've all got our opinions in. The she just locks with no further discussion.

This isn't town rach I've seen before. I see a lot of "I intend to hammer, let's hear him out first" with town Rach. So her lock, to me, feels like scum throwing their partner under the bus in an attempt to make themselves seem town.

VOTE: Rach

[Moonlight]

The only real risk of my gambit I had to worry about was about unpredictable internet connection and your fast reply helped immensely. xD

Your quick reaction and the certainty with which you called me for my bullshit is also something scum wouldn't do when a Tracker says they're guilty.

The only drawback to it was you revealing you're a VT, but it's a small price to pay in my opinion.

I am actually inclined to vote Squirrel, but I'm biased. I'm sure she didn't expect me to do any of this.

Hold on... there are some posts I need to find that made me consider her overnight as a possible buddy to HSS.

[conman41895]

Can someone explain how the tracker role works just so I can understand the gambit better. How is it different than the cop?

[BipolarChemist]

Tracker chooses a player, then the tracker gets a list of everyone that player targeted that night.

[Moonlight]

In 102, HSS' vote for Tony comes

just

as Tony becomes convinced of Squirrel.

Then there's 168, which reads to me as "I'll just shoot Tony in the night, mislynch Moonlight tomorrow while blaming him for outing Tony".

Try again, Squirrel.

VOTE: Squirrel Girl

PEdit: @conman: It tells me who that person targeted in the night. My lie was about BC targetting Tony, and Tony being dead would have meant BC shot Tony. In reality I tracked Nacho, who did nothing. With Tony dead, this means that Nacho is Town.

[conman41895]

So what's the difference between that and the cop

[BipolarChemist]

I'm actually inclined to agree with this Squirrel Girl read. Not once does HSS acknowledge SG, but he mentions every other player at least once. It seems like an avoidance of having any connection with his partner.

VOTE: Squirrel Girl

Let's poke her a little harder.

[BipolarChemist]

Conman, cop just tells alignment of the targeted player. Tracker is a little more iffy and the results because you don't know what the person could be targeting with.

[Moonlight]

@conman: With 1 scum already dead, practically none when there's a nightkill.

If there had been no NK and I got a result, I wouldn't know if that player is a Doctor or scum that took the shot.

[conman41895]

Okay I get it. I have to say I agree with the SG suspicion because that play from Moon was really convincing, however I still want to wait for her to respond before I do anything. Also I want to hear from everyone on their overall thoughts about this

[Nachomamma8]

I like being confirmed town!

[BipolarChemist]

Would you like giving some thoughts?

[Nachomamma8]

I will, I like the push on Squirrel!
I'm incredibly hungover at the moment so translating thoughts isn't easy

[Nachomamma8]

I think a large contribution I have to offer is that I think Rach is incredibly town.

[conman41895]

Care to share why?

[Moonlight]

*is kicking himself for townreading Squirrel most of D1*

"Because she replied too fast and scumhunted". You'd think I'd take a hint with how much self-awareness she showed in 215, but nope!

Nacho's read on Rach helps, I really suck at trying to read her. =X

[conman41895]

How does it help, all he said was he thinks she's town with no explanation

[Moonlight]

Why is one required? There's no doubt he's Town, and he has the benefit of having played with her before. I'm more than happy to take his word for it for now at least. =P