I suppose... I'm still unimpressed with it though.In post 1048, Knell wrote:Given the context of when he asked you. Do you think Thor thought it likely you would actually just be say, "Okay! Vote BBT"
In post 1010, Thor665 wrote: didn't chase a vanity wagon that had already failed (At L-2...it's not like it even got to L-1) and I got town a lynch and a flip. Personally I think that was more productive of me - apparently you disagree. But the facts are the facts, and here's my defense of my actions "Yes, I did exactly what you're saying I did" I, personally, think what I did is pro-town. i personally think what you're saying I should have done would have been immensely anti-town.
In post 1011, Aquanim wrote:And no, you didn't get town a lynch and a flip. I got town a lynch and a flip, on someone I was happy to lynch, by pushing the Belisarius wagon. You didn't contribute to that wagon, you came in and hammered it at the end having put no work into it and not even being accountable for it, since it was Beli or a no-lynch at that point.
In post 1020, Thor665 wrote:
Ah, right, so at the stage it was Belli or no lynch...what are you saying I should have done? And who do you think was going to make the Belli thing happen if not I? ANd which is preferable, Belli or no lynch?
In post 1038, Aquanim wrote:I'm not saying you shouldn't have hammered Belisarius. I'm saying I don't give you any town credit (nor a scumread) for it since I think you'd have done that whatever your alignment
In post 1027, Thor665 wrote:So what is the purpose of this conversation? Because I'm only doing it because I think you're town and want you to understand that I am - but apparently I'm spinning my wheels because you have no purpose. Yes/no?
How is this a logical progression of a conversation at all? Thor overstates his role in the Beli lynch, Aqua points this out and then Thor makes it a conversation about what he should have done?In post 1026, Aquanim wrote:The purpose of this conversation was a DIFFERENT read, which in the end Thor didn't contest (namely that he did nothing besides hammer Belisarius), but he dragged the discussion off into "whether or not he should have hammered Belisarius" and then blames ME for bringing up irrelevancies. Piss off.
Irrespective of him being at L-1 or you knoeing this or not knowing this? What were you trying to do with this?In post 1037, Thor665 wrote:Aqua - vote BBT now?
And why did this warrant that emoticon?In post 1027, Thor665 wrote:In post 1026, Aquanim wrote:Or that you're scum and you're not reading the thread or remembering what your professed attitude at certain points in the thread was. So that proves nothing.
I'm inclined to think that scum would be more inclined to step back under the circumstances. If our argument was town-on-town scum would be quite happy to watch us have a go at each other. If Thor's scum, then his scumbuddy coming in and defending him would stick out like a sore thumb, and coming in and pushing Thor would probably get them in trouble too (on the simple principle that scum don't like to interact with their scumbuddies).In post 1052, Knell wrote:Tr1ckster is sick. The rest though. You find it interesting, I find it annoying.
You could take a look at a Thor scumgame and let me know what you think; in particular a newbie game. Try 1406 maybe. My impression is that he tunnels regardless of alignment.In post 1058, Tr1ckster wrote:I don't think Thor's scum.
I hate meta-ing off of one game, but last game I saw him tunnel hard as town. I don't know. Thor just seems like he's town motivated and he's being ... well ... Thor.
You guys posted a whole lot while I was gone, though. Speaking of which... How do I go into V/LA? Err.. I guess I'll just tell the mod.
@Mod Sorry I haven't posted much as yet. I'm very sick and have limited access to computers and such. I'll be V/LA until Monday at the soonest. I can probably check in every once in a while, but that depends on how long I'm awake for.
In post 1051, Aquanim wrote:As an aside, I do find it facinating how many people completely disappeared from the thread during all this.
I'm not sure why you find that fascinating.In post 182, Aquanim wrote:
If somebody states a scum-read on somebody who I have a town-read on, yes I will stand back and let them discuss it first. If I feel I have something important to say, I might well contribute it, but I would first let them discuss it amongst themselves so as to get a better read on both of them. If there is a serious danger of my town-read getting lynched, I would then go to bat for them - but there would not be any need before that point.
Given that I was having a discussion with Thor before yourself, it seems unlikely that I would need to come in and egg on your discussion as either alignment. Although, given your BBT-scum scenario, would a town-BBT not come in and try to egg on some pressure on someone he is scum-reading?In post 1057, Aquanim wrote:That being said, it's a possibility that BBT-scum came in and egged on the argument I was having with Thor-town. I don't see anything in particular to indicate it, but it's a possibility.
Umm, why are you voting for me? In addition, why did you not state I was at L-1 when you voted for me?
Well, people could have been pushing their points of view on other topics.In post 1061, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 1051, Aquanim wrote:As an aside, I do find it facinating how many people completely disappeared from the thread during all this.I'm not sure why you find that fascinating.In post 182, Aquanim wrote:
If somebody states a scum-read on somebody who I have a town-read on, yes I will stand back and let them discuss it first. If I feel I have something important to say, I might well contribute it, but I would first let them discuss it amongst themselves so as to get a better read on both of them. If there is a serious danger of my town-read getting lynched, I would then go to bat for them - but there would not be any need before that point.
I agree, they could. However, if you look at D1 when Thor was pressing me, not much was happening elsewhere then either; other than the occasional Madonna essay regarding Trick. Even Madonna ended up posting about what was going on between Thor and myself for the majority of her posts.In post 1062, Aquanim wrote: Well, people could have been pushing their points of view on other topics.
The difference I see is that this period is toward the end of a day rather than the start; we're, what, 50 hours from the end of the day and there's not as much consensus as one would like. Someone failing to be concerned about the state of the thread at this point is more concerning to me.In post 1064, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I agree, they could. However, if you look at D1 when Thor was pressing me, not much was happening elsewhere then either; other than the occasional Madonna essay regarding Trick. Even Madonna ended up posting about what was going on between Thor and myself for the majority of her posts.In post 1062, Aquanim wrote: Well, people could have been pushing their points of view on other topics.
Knell is one of my stronger scumreads (probably #3 at the moment behind Trick and NM). Both his and Hemp's day 1 play made me fairly suspicious, most of which I've already explained in my notes copypaste post. The argument based on the Madonna flip being town was more that Madonna flipping scum would have led to associative cases, whereas Madonna flipping town means that I'm talking without associations to Madonna. Knell had one of the stronger cases without associations, hence that comment.In post 1018, Aquanim wrote:@Elk: Yesterday you said that Knell would be your greatest scumread if Madonna flipped town. What is your read on him now and why?
1. Partial PoE and if you flip town that gives me a wonderful idea of who is scum.In post 1061, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Umm, why are you voting for me? In addition, why did you not state I was at L-1 when you voted for me?
I'm not sure why you're quoting this post literally two posts after I'm posting, unless that was a question you wanted me to answer rather than a rhetorical question. In any case, I'll answer as best as I can.
