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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:54 am

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So you are saying dude cop who half cleared me was lying then Pere?
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:01 am

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If it wasn't for the
FACT
that
I was so ignorant about the site mechanics, and game mechanics when I started this game two months ago
, I would almost FoS myself as being part of the DC team.
But,
My original reason for voting Rufflig is because I thought he was scum with Squirrel, and he was. I had some suspicions of Viomi, but when it came time for the wagon, I was hesitant. The site went down and I was gone for a while even after the site came back up.
But
I was FoSing Umbrage as being scum
from the beginning
, and I was right about that too.
Because I was sooo derpy about the site mechanics, it is absolutely impossible for me to have been scum; therefore all people who are continuing to FoS me are suspect. AuntJ even more so now that Umbrage has flipped, because her orginal FoS was that I wasn't hunting for both teams. I like the link that PerV put up. This game has been going on for a long time, but in this game we are the same alignment from the beginning to the end. Once town, always town.

A huge FoS on AuntJ and ZZZX for their reads. I'm glad I backed off of Displaced a little bit, but I still want to lynch him everytime I ISO Ruflig and SqG.
I keep going back to the fact that SqG was saying that Pidgey hit scum in his RVS vote. But then called Displaced town, and then added him to her scum reads.
And that Ruflig wanted to vote KidA, but then wouldn't vote Displaced for the same reasoning that he used on KidA.

So,
1. Ruflig and SqG did a really, really good job of creating a post-mortem mislynch.
OR
2. The both suck, and outed a member of their team.

I believe the latter. So, before I start going off of what has been said about Moz, and NeroCain, I'd like to see the official Flip on Displaced.CTRL+F in Ruflig's ISO shows that he mentions Displaced 73 times in his 62 posts. I believe that this post by Ruflig is particularly damning.
In post 371, The Rufflig wrote:@pidgey:
First:
Unless you are using a strange meaning for throwing dirt - the phrase means to slander or vilify. If you feel displaced was throwing dirt then I will repeat my earlier question. "Was displaced throwing dirt on mozamis or mozamis' read?" Alternatively, could you explain how displaced performed such an action?

Second:
Making a point without committing to a read. Why can't displaced disagree with something (or someone) without finding it scummy? I found displaced's comment neutral. Why is a neutral comment scummy? Or maybe you do find that comment not neutral. What is non-neutral about it?

Third and at the risk of being a prick:

Could you tell me why you singled out displaced? I'm quite sure others have committed the same offense that you have attributed to displaced. Take this fellow for instance:
In post 199, pidgey wrote:Umbrage- Im not caling you scum because at the moment i really dont have any real read on you, and no reason to call you scum. I do hwever called your read on me shit (yeah only that single read on me)
That is nearly the exact same offense that displaced committed is it not? There are more examples present from other players.


Fourth: Why does displaced's previously vote for Aronis (without comment) undermine your case on displaced?
Pidgey's vote on Displaced received WAY more attention than it was worth. And the defense of Displaced seems horribly over dramatic. Heck, I think nearly all of the first half of the game was over this.
Also, I don't think Moz is MUVA, because SqG was all like...
In post 122, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 113, mozamis wrote:
In post 26, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 22, mozamis wrote:Rufflig looks town.
I feel like this begs explanation. I don't think he's done anything indicative of alignment. What am I overlooking?
His early posts, particularly this one:
In post 17, The Rufflig wrote:It was a reference to the show called "The Awesomes" (catch it on Hulu - it's quite good), Aronis. The main character of which is Professor Doctor Jeremy "Prock"
Awesome
.

I must bow to Squirrel Girl's superior knowledge of comic book minutiae. :)
all felt quite relaxed and "bantery". Doesn't seem at all nervous or forced.
I was the one bantering with him - did my banter seem nervous and/or forced?

Vote: Mozamis


If I'm right then Ruffling is probably obv. town also.
I don't think she would have been bussing Moz over a town read on Rufflig that she would claim would White Knight Rufflig. Which is the only way that Moz could be on her team, considering that Ruflig was on her team. I can't completely negate him from being DC though, that twilight vote on Titus, gives me a lot of WIFOM to think about. And, This doesn't have the feel of bussing. And if it is, GG Viomi/Moz GG. I suppose it's worth looking into, because every flipped scum has a town read from Mozamis.

And I'll put my vote back now.
VOTE: Displaced

p-edit. A wall or not a wall, phuckit it's already walled. No helpful reduction on this.
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 3422, RachMarie wrote:zzk I really am not that hard to read.


However I like your vote I have had beast as a scum read for a long time but no one really seems to agree with it maybe now we can get him lynched.

VOTE: Beast
So you don't think Beast's ignorance over how encryptors worked and about both teams having encryptors was real?
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:16 am

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Could peeps use black and red I really get confused with the titles because I look at the op and see black and red and go with that for the scum hunting
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:19 am

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Black is MUVA, Red is DC. Chandra made it up.
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:39 am

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wait a sec Josh are you saying you think I am red scum who did not know that Titus was my scum bud? And that I then voted for her in a hard bus? Clearly you are not familiar with my scum game.

And to what purpose would the red cop serve by lying about clearing me as red scum?
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:46 am

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WTF? Why do keep calling my name? Who are you?
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:52 am

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In post 3334, Josh_B wrote:Hmmn. You make a good point, ZZZX is a serious candidate for scum. But with the quotes you put out, more likely DC scum from where I'm sitting.
Scum standard would indicate that SqG is setting herself up to lynch AuntJ if the town agrees, and a scum flip on AuntJ could be a good indication of why SqG was the target night one.
Post 550 could be a clear on Vezok, if ZZZX is MUVA. Otherwise it just seems like scum fishing for a reason to sheep without actually doing the work.

Who replaced USB? (taking a long time to post this because I'm figuring it out)Rach, I think. Yeah, Rachmarie. That slot has been shady this whole game, but we have a clear on it, so Bazinga!

This is good stuff. I like seeing your spin on this and I don't mind sharing mine. But it's not information that people don't already know. At least I don't think it is.
Rach, Are you talking about this post? I was saying that Displaced is just fishing for scum reads. As Pidgey put it, "trying to throw some dirt and see if it sticks."
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:19 pm

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Rach isn't red scum. Jesus.
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:25 pm

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In post 3429, Josh_B wrote:Black is MUVA, Red is DC. Chandra made it up.

I meant this post,
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:37 pm

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I don't know what the fuck that is, but it sounds like something stupid and I propose we move along
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:39 pm

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I still don't get it. I never called you DC(red), or MUVA(black). Truthfully, I haven't had any interactions with you, or USB this whole game that I know of. Except one time earlier when you said my name, when you meant Mozamis.
You asked for people to start using Red and Black as the names for scum, but the true names are Marvel Universe Villain Alliance (MUVA) which we referred to as Black before we knew the names, and DC Universe Alliance was Red scum before the flip on Viomi, now it's just called DC, or DC scum.

I posted 3429 because you still seem confused by the synonyms. I don't see how that was accusatory. I was hoping that it would beneficial to your understanding of the game. Now, I'm wondering how you made the leap that a definition of terms could mean that I called you red scum?
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 3435, Chandra Nalaar wrote:propose we move along
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:41 pm

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I'm a lilttle conflicted about a Moz lynch 'cause I kinda like him owning up to his mistake and his bad vote. Though he hasn't been scumhunting today wich bothers me.

I think "posting it up elsewhere while ignoring a specific game" is a pretty good scumtell. I used to actully think it was THE best scum tell but lately I've seen some town flip for this.

AJ, why is displaced a mislynch?
In post 3413, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 3397, BulbaFenix wrote:Cabd, Chandra, and Mala are conf. town. Period.
OK.

Please see just finished star wars game.
but aronis LIED.

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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:59 pm

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uh, recent set of posts makes Rach likely town.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:00 pm

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Beast is likely not DC scum, but still could be MUVA scum, but i doubt it.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:01 pm

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also where the fuck did SKOAT go.
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:09 pm

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What were you saying that Chandra made up then? I thought that was in response to dude saying chandra had cleared me from being red scum Or do you think Chandra is not the red cop? I am confused?

moving along

mala could you expand on that? cause I still think beast is scum, just not sure if red or black.
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:12 pm

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Rach start here and stop with my posts on the next page.
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:23 pm

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Sigh I missed that ok back to the drawing board :(
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:41 am

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In post 3442, RachMarie wrote:What were you saying that Chandra made up then? I thought that was in response to dude saying chandra had cleared me from being red scum Or do you think Chandra is not the red cop? I am confused?

moving along

mala could you expand on that? cause I still think beast is scum, just not sure if red or black.
Chandra decided which one to call what. Obviously by this point MUVA had already been named, and there was some discussion about which to call what. It just grew from here.
In post 1493, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
In post 1491, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:For the record my working theory ATM is 5/1/19
Counterpoint: Other Jason games refer to one scumgroup as simply "scum" and their color appears to always be red.
I think I felt the need to re iterate that I have been going off of this post as reasoning to call the teams red and black because of Post 1891.
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:27 am

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So are you saying you do not believe he is the red cop?
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:04 am

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Hold on while I ISO before answering this statement. I'm kind of hard headed sometimes.
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:53 am

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I don't think it matters what her role is. I think she is town. Originally I thought she was red scum with Umbrage, but when I ISO Umbrage, I see a lot of "I'm going to turn on you statements." And the fact that she was one of the early leaders on both the Viomi and Titus wagon. I think she might have been right for most of this game, I believe her and I believe you, but you are going to have to convince me (and others) if you don't think we should Vote Displaced. I have a case on him too.
Can you support it?
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:33 am

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I think he is probably telling the truth and the results make sense, so yeah I think Chandra is the red cop.

As for Displaced, I need to look at his ISO
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