Organic Chemistry [GAME OVER]

[Bulbazak]

My deepest apologies. I should have rephrased it to "The statement which I disagree with".

That's fine.

Yes sir, there was indeed a lot of pushing on Wicked, which resulted in a successful maximum 2-man wagon. It took 9 to lynch. I hope you can forgive me when I ignored the Wicked "wagon" and "pushes".

But your point regarding context was that there were not a lot of pushes and that there was no case. Excuse me for calling BS.

First of all, you completely dismissed my argument, which I sincerely put out to attempt to reach out to you, with "This is scum with Wicked" "I Agree". Granted, it might have been Titus's fault, but by agreeing with her, the point extends to you as well: you completely ignored and dismissed my argument to prove your statement wrong, by saying "lol you're scum". No logic, no rebuttal, no dispute, just "You are scum with Wicked". Anyone would feel slighted in this position. So although you call me out for discrediting you, that was exactly my intention in retaliation. If you can call me out for "discrediting you"... just remember the pot calling kettle black.

Fair enough.

Except that it isn't valid because you didn't consider my argument which you later discovered in 1). I disagreed with/corrected your "common belief", in return you come back with "lol you're scum". So no, I did not misrep you, I was making a point. Yes, I admit to discrediting you, but I think that's okay.

I don't, but whatever.

Well, then the words "wall war" came from your mouth, not mine. You are misrepping me. Clear cut example.

It's not a misrep when it's clearly implied. You wanted to dance like in Voided. That would result in a wall war.

You then proceed on to describe how wall wars

potentially

limit discussion, how it is anti-town, nobody will read them, it is a scum move, etc. Basically, you misrep me and bring it on further by placing imaginary scum motivations and magical confirmation bias on the words "wall war" which I never mentioned in the entirety of this game.

That close to deadline, that was the only motivation I could see.

I made you dance anyway Your paragraph is moot.

That game was the one we interacted the most; apart from [ONGOING GAME]. In fact, I barely remember playing with you solo in any of my past games; you were either hydra-ing with EddieFenix (cool guy), or didn't make a very big impression on me if indeed we played in recent games main account-to-main account.

We've played quite a bit with each other, actually, and you rarely get this serious.

Well played, sir. Well played.

Unvote

Vote Pirate Mollie

[ZZZX]

ZZZX

, you think Titus is mafia even given Majiffy's result?

And what is majiffy's result? It said he isnt town but something about his role. I think i nearly understand what majiffy result was. Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

[Wickedestjr]

Wait nvm just checked my pms.

I have information that implies titus is unlikely mafia.

VOTE: ac130

You asked him how certain he was and I believe he said that he was 95% certain that Titus was town.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Here's the game you're referencing. If anybody would go and do a dual ISO of me and your hydra, they'd find that we ended up walling on each other for close to 2 game days.

I'm gonna go right ahead and give that a pass. Snork thinks Saki is town; I'm begrudgingly becoming neutral about them. Bulbazak at least looks fervent and passionate which is cool.

This seems rather fake.

Sort of agree. I could see a townie saying it though.

Well, then the words "wall war" came from your mouth, not mine. You are misrepping me. Clear cut example.

This wall war is so pedantic I'm going to scratch my eyes out reading it.

That

would

did result in a wall war.

ftfy.

I think i nearly understand what majiffy result was. Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

How about, instead of pointless speculation, you read Saki v Bulbazak and explain why their alignments are whatever you think they are. OR just anything useful.

[ZZZX]

Here's the game you're referencing. If anybody would go and do a dual ISO of me and your hydra, they'd find that we ended up walling on each other for close to 2 game days.

I'm gonna go right ahead and give that a pass. Snork thinks Saki is town; I'm begrudgingly becoming neutral about them. Bulbazak at least looks fervent and passionate which is cool.

This seems rather fake.

Sort of agree. I could see a townie saying it though.

Well, then the words "wall war" came from your mouth, not mine. You are misrepping me. Clear cut example.

This wall war is so pedantic I'm going to scratch my eyes out reading it.

That

would

did result in a wall war.

ftfy.

I think i nearly understand what majiffy result was. Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

How about, instead of pointless speculation, you read Saki v Bulbazak and explain why their alignments are whatever you think they are. OR just anything useful.

Sorry about that speculation as I was answering someone else's question. The SakivBulba felt a little weird. Like two kids trying to prove who is right. That leads me to feel its townvtown if not for how smooth it just went. I dont know but it feels as if its SvS. I am not fully sure yet.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Sorry about that speculation as I was answering someone else's question. The SakivBulba felt a little weird. Like two kids trying to prove who is right. That leads me to feel its townvtown if not for how smooth it just went. I dont know but it feels as if its SvS. I am not fully sure yet.

Ok, I think I realized something. ANYHOW. I'm kind of sort of starting to townread you. Snork seems really sure you are town for some reason, he has been rereading. This opinion kind of mirrors how I feel a little bit. Paranoia about it being orchestrated (I mean wow look how nitpicky that crap is) and referencing a game where they were TvT (I haven't even clicked the link I can just tell that they were). If I had to pick one to not like here, it'd be bulbazak.

That said, I still want to lynch MTD. Snork finds his votes all opportunistic this game and I tend to agree. I also generally dislike him on a gut level which I would need to justify more but eh. Snork also sees MAjiffy/MTD as a possibility because they have been defending each other all game, I haven't looked for that but there was definitely recent bouts of Majiffy doing that. I also found MTD's whole bit about bulba's case on Saki being weak to be a little .

[Majiffy]

Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

I still think its best unoutted. Less information to scum the better.

[ZZZX]

Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

I still think its best unoutted. Less information to scum the better.

Alright. When the time comes for you to announce let me take a guess first

Anyway if its what I think it is then your inspect will be about 75% true.

[Antihero]

Grignard Reagents

The Grignard Reaction is the addition of an organomagnesium halide (Grignard reagent) to a ketone or aldehyde, to form a tertiary or secondary alcohol, respectively. The reaction with formaldehyde leads to a primary alcohol.

Grignard Reagents are also used in the following important reactions: The addition of an excess of a Grignard reagent to an ester or lactone gives a tertiary alcohol in which two alkyl groups are the same, and the addition of a Grignard reagent to a nitrile produces an unsymmetrical ketone via a metalloimine intermediate. (Some more reactions are depicted below)

interesting fact: you should

never

add water to grignard reagents too quickly. i did this once and i made an absolute mess out of my shorts (because 1. i spilled butanol/MgCl all over myself and 2. i crapped myself because the exothermic reaction startled me).

Vote Count 2.7

ac1983fan - 2 (beastcharizard, Speedy Saki)
Bulbazak - 1 (Majiffy)
Guilty Gunsmith - 1 (ZZZX)
Marquis - 1 (pirate mollie)
MTD - 4 (PeregrineV, Guilty Gunsmith, vezokpiraka, Wickedestjr)
Speedy Saki - 3 (ac1983fan, Marquis, Titus)
pirate mollie - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting: Lying Cat, MTD

Titus is on V/LA.

Lying Cat has been prodded.

8 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2014-07-06 16:33:43).

[Majiffy]

Majiffy do you mind if I tried and guessed what your inspect was?

I still think its best unoutted. Less information to scum the better.

Alright. When the time comes for you to announce let me take a guess first

Anyway if its what I think it is then your inspect will be about 75% true.

I think 75 is a bit of a low-ball but alrighty.

[Majiffy]

I don't really want to lynch any of the leading wagons. Lets get a Bulbazak lynch going.

[PeregrineV]

I don't really want to lynch any of the leading wagons. Lets get a Bulbazak lynch going.

You need at least a pro forma case on him if not an actual one.

[Wickedestjr]

Lets get a Bulbazak lynch going.

I'm interested. But who else is?

[Lying Cat]

I support a Bulba lynch.

I do not think he reached his meta read on me in a natural way, leaving me to believe he was just reaching for a reason to townread me.

We've played together a few times and he's seen me as scum in:

Newbie 1498 he watched me systematically kill everyone who was producing content in order to let the game stall out.
1557 he saw a scum strategy of mine that was basically force town to deal with being at deadline for the entire game by actively lurking the thread.

I do not see any reason for Bulb to look at me lurking and see town.

VOTE: Bulbazak

With that said, Snork, let me know if I'm confbiasing like I did on Fuzzy, as this is another player that I have literally never townread.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

YOU ARE.

Everyone needs to vote MTD right now. Bulbazak is a shiny little bauble meant to distract you.

Jiffy has been covering MTD's ass and chainsawing since page 4 or 5 or whatever. Dumb early.

Jiffy isn't a mason. And if he's town, why so much interest in saving MTD's skin when he isn't even Jiffy's strongest townread? Someone explain that shit to me.

When MTD was getting wagoned early, what did he do? He started yelling about Doduo and Mastin.

MTD is getting wagoned now. And what does he do? He pushes for Bulbazak.

All this, DESPITE MTD BEING SCUMMY AS FUCK, opportunistically hopping on leading/popular wagons, making up reasons for making up reasons for his votes, dodging legitimate questioning, and HELLO. Does not make sense. MTD scum = Jiffy scum.

Oh yeah and Jiffy "wouldn't misread mastin over bullshit". Or Titus? And there was a third but I don't have my notes right now and I am kind of juiced up at the moment because yall are falling for scum shit.

So, can you all, please trust me that I have spent the last 10 fucking days squeezing this thread for info and this is what needs to happen.

Snork.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Also... fuzzy?

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Are you Jingle or Sthar?

[Bulbazak]

Hello Jingle. Where have you been hiding?

Unvote

Vote MTD

I'm really not seeing a coincidence in when LC decided to reenter the thread.

@GG: What is your read on Mollie again? Because Majiffy has been protecting that slot like crazy, even though Mollie is being a total lurk sack.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

We are undecided on mollie, and will sort her later. It does look like Jiffy has been protecting her, but I think maybe it's because she might expect him to? Especially if she's town, she might expect him to recognize it. I don't know.

Snork

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Also Sthar is having life crisis. I haven't talked to him in many days. I do not think the activity level is related. (Whereas normally, I would)

Snork

[Majiffy]

I don't really want to lynch any of the leading wagons. Lets get a Bulbazak lynch going.

You need at least a pro forma case on him if not an actual one.

I have no good feels from him. Probably other reasons, too, but I'm lazy and :effort:

Lets get a Bulbazak lynch going.

I'm interested. But who else is?

Idk throw down a vote and see if it sticks.

Everyone needs to vote MTD right now. Bulbazak is a shiny little bauble meant to distract you.

Jiffy has been covering MTD's ass and chainsawing since page 4 or 5 or whatever. Dumb early.

Meth is bad for you, bro.

[ac1983fan]

Hmmm.
At least one of Bulbazak, MTD, and Saki would need to be town I think, based off of their interactions right now (Saki v. Bulba, Bulba voting for both of them)
I'm not sure who is most likely to be town of these three though.
I think the right place for my vote right now is VOTE: Bulbazak

[Speedy Saki]

Hmmm.
At least one of Bulbazak, MTD, and Saki would need to be town I think, based off of their interactions right now (Saki v. Bulba, Bulba voting for both of them)
I'm not sure who is most likely to be town of these three though.
I think the right place for my vote right now is VOTE: Bulbazak

*shakes fist* I can't believe this guy is getting a free pass!

[Bulbazak]

@MS: Want to wagon MTD with me? I'll also accept Mollie or LC.

[ZZZX]

I thought about this and I have to

unvote

Now let me think about which wagon I must join. First can you guys answer a few questions?

-@Bulba

Why does your play seem too off? You are usually more agressive in general

-@MTD

Can you explain GG's posts about you?

-@Majiffy

Can you explain GG's posts on you and MTD and mastain?