NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[Mirhawk]

@Aero
Do you think Aegor is scum?

[Aeronaut]

@Aero
Do you think Aegor is scum?

Well, most of what he's done seems pretty normal, except for the crazy push on HS. All he wants to do is get to N2. He's pushing a wagon insanely hard that doesn't need to be pushed.

So yea, he's in my scum pile. He's not the top of the list, but he's looking scummier to me for every post he makes.

[Boonskiies]

During my whole thing with Alina, I had been bringing up the potential Aegor is scum posts. It's why I kept asking people thoughts on him. I am suspicious of him, and it's mainly just guy feeling as I don't have any definitive reasons to think he's scum. Unless he slips up, I don't believe he should be toDay's lynch, as he could just be troll towning because he isn't really certain on anyone and wants to get to the next day so he can narrow it down more.

[Aegor]

I really don't like this. Have you not been reading people's reasonings as to why they're voting for DG, or do you just not care?

I responded to those reasons, so I obviously read them. GM is facing replacement. HS is straight-up lurking, sheeping, and being incompetent in a way that strongly suggests to me that he is scum. I would at least wait for GM's replacement.

If HS is town, this definitely feels like a scum push, and if HS is scum, it still feels like bussing.

This kind of thinking is anti-town because it is nothing more than confirmation bias.

[Wake1]

Could Damon_Gant please be prodded or force-replaced? He hasn't posted in 6 days, 6 hours, and only has five posts.

[shaddowez]

Mod

- I'll be V/LA until 7/20. I will try to post at least once a RL day, but can't promise anything.

[Toomai]

Could Damon_Gant please be prodded or force-replaced? He hasn't posted in 6 days, 6 hours, and only has five posts.

Do you normally just skip over the parts of mod posts that aren't votecounts? I have addressed this three times already.

@Wake88: Time spent during night does not count towards being prodded, as should be expected from any other game here.

Players will not be prodded until the day has been open long enough to reach the ruleset's prod length.

Damon_Gant has not read the start-of-day PM. If he reaches prod timing (in ~27.7 hours) and has not yet done so, I'll skip to replacing him. I may send him a prod before then to see if he responds.

I have sent him an unofficial prod, and he will be replaced if he doesn't answer it in 12 hours (the time when his not-posting-timer hits 72 hours, at which point I would normally just issue a prod). I've already gone outside my existing ruleset to skip the prod and just replace him because he hasn't read the daystart PM. Please stop hounding me about it.

[reinoe]

Also, reinoe, can you give me a link to a Damon Grant game so I can see his play style a bit since you seem familiar by him? I do want to be informed on why a lot of you are voting his way.

Sorry I missed this.

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I'm not actually familiar with Damon_Gant's play as we've never played together before. The whole being online but not even bothering with the day start PM is kinda cray. But then so was Clusk's behavior and they're similarities there. I just don't know.

[Aeronaut]

@Mirhawk:

What are your thoughts on Aegor? Do you think his quicklynch was warranted?

[Aeronaut]

Oh, and

@Aegor:

I believe your read on Mirhawk is town/null. What has he done to earn that read? Has he done anything, anything at all, that seems Scummy to you?

[Mirhawk]

Aegor strikes me as relatively town. The naked votes are a thing I suppose, but I think that's just a part of his playstyle.

Why is it suddenly Aegor's quicklynch. That lynch belonged to Cabd, he called for it and half the town went along with it.

[Aeronaut]

Aegor strikes me as relatively town. The naked votes are a thing I suppose, but I think that's just a part of his playstyle.

Why is it suddenly Aegor's quicklynch. That lynch belonged to Cabd, he called for it and half the town went along with it.

Whoops, I dun confused myself. I meant his wanting to quicklynch HS for D2. Sort of mixed up what I was saying, sorry it's late

[Aegor]

Oh, and

@Aegor:

I believe your read on Mirhawk is town/null. What has he done to earn that read? Has he done anything, anything at all, that seems Scummy to you?

Nothing that comes to mind. Null means that nothing has swayed me toward town or scum; I generally only strongly townread 1-2 players per game. Thus, Mirhawk has not "earned" that read, because it is my default read.

[reinoe]

@Alina
So far for the past two days the efforts to push for lynches has been on lurkers. Do you think this is a coincidence?

@Aegor
Broodking says that he's 100% certain Boonskiies is scum because he's being disruptive. Do you agree with this?

@Not Mafia
Boonskiies has made some controversial claims re: his role. Do you think he could be scum playing up a VI reputation or do you think this is his genuine town game?

@Mirhawk
We both kinda agree that Wake is being more aggressive than in MINI 1579. He's also asking more and better questions. Do you think he could be scum or is this an evolution of his game?

@Wake
What do you think of the Clusk lynch? How many scum do you think were pushing that wagon and who on that wagon was the scummiest.

[Mirhawk]

Eh. Aegor's pushing for it yes but probably less then some of the other people who voted HS today.

I would call Juls the driving force, and it's not like Aegor is more guilty of wanting HS lyched then the other eight people who were on his wagon when he was at L-1.

Why are you still voting Damon Gant? Do you believe he is lurking without picking up his day two start PM?

@Reinoe
I don't think I could commit to a call on this yet. I remember Titus harping on him for not playing his usual game, and he was pretty flaccid for someone who has a named special move they like to throw down. So maybe the aggressiveness is more usual.

[Aeronaut]

Eh. Aegor's pushing for it yes but probably less then some of the other people who voted HS today.

I would call Juls the driving force, and it's not like Aegor is more guilty of wanting HS lyched then the other eight people who were on his wagon when he was at L-1.

Why are you still voting Damon Gant? Do you believe he is lurking without picking up his day two start.

Thats a good point.... I still think the slot may be scum and he may just be flaking out, but you're right it's starting to make less sense.

I'll probably reevaluate that in the morning.

[Mirhawk]

(what you are hearing is the sound of skepticism)

[Aegor]

@Aegor
Broodking says that he's 100% certain Boonskiies is scum because he's being disruptive. Do you agree with this?

While Boonskiies' play is not productive, I think he is town. His reactions today and his defense of "I'm selfish" (!!!) actually ring genuinely town to me, although I admit freely that he is quite annoying. But we have way more compelling candidates for a lynch in HS and DG. I feel vehemently that we will regret not lynching this lurkers early on.

[Aegor]

Especially given the NKs. Both active, experienced players. The lurkers will not get NKed and will never provide us with bases for reads.

[Burning_TowN]

Surely... SURELY a lurker can be lynched after actual scum, especially because replacement.

It is more than likely that he is town. We just assume lurker=scum for some stupid reason.

-B_E

[BP]

Surely... SURELY a lurker can be lynched after actual scum, especially because replacement.

It is more than likely that he is town. We just assume lurker=scum for some stupid reason.

-B_E

I agree.

I voted Wake already, right?

[Juls]

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n, Aeronaut, HS, Damon are my lynch pool. I removed mirahawks for now cause I don't honestly remember why he was on my list. It was something early. Wake is just terrible town I think.

I have explained my Adri

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n read and I REALLY wish everyone else would join me. Aeronaut is mostly gut and my scum read on him is growing more today. I know this is weak and I will probably need to give a more detailed reason when I am not being so lazy. Plus, he's not in my top two so not really pushing it. Just putting it out there that I would willingly vote him. HS is already explained and I was unimpressed with DGs content in all 5 of his posts.

[TheAdrienC]

Can you please stop that? I'm asking you respectfully.

[Toomai]

Votecount D2-6

No votes have been made since the previous votecount.

Sharpest-knife-on-tree	L-10	0	—
TheAdrienC	L-8	2	HunterSeeker, Juls
reinoe	L-10	0	—
Wake88	L-9	1	BP
Burning_TowN	L-10	0	—
shaddowez	L-10	0	—
Damon_Gant	L-6	4	Not_Mafia, Alina, Aeronaut, reinoe
Mirhawk	L-10	0	—
Not_Mafia	L-10	0	—
Aegor	L-10	0	—
Scarab	L-10	0	—
Boonskiies	L-8	2	Burning_TowN, BroodKingEXE
BroodKingEXE	L-9	1	Boonskiies
Juls	L-10	0	—
Aeronaut	L-10	0	—
HunterSeeker	L-6	4	Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Wake88, Aegor, Scarab
BP	L-10	0	—
Alina	L-10	0	—

Not voting:

TheAdrienC, Damon_Gant, Mirhawk, shaddowez
With

18

alive it takes

10

to lynch.

Activity

Damon_Gant has ~2 hours to post or be repalced.
HunterSeeker is due for a prod in ~3 hours.
Sharpest-knife-on-tree is due for a prod in ~23.5 hours.
BroodKingEXE is due for a prod in ~26 hours.
shaddowez is V/LA until 20/07/2014.

Current deadline

04/08/2014 12:06 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-08-04 12:06:20)

[Juls]

Can you please stop that? I'm asking you respectfully.

Oh so you are responding to me then? See I made a big long post, took a lot of time on it and addressed everything you said. You ignored it. And no, I won't stop. You made a big deal out of it, now you are getting the correct spelling.