Tammy, I assume by "next to last" you meant the post where I declared intent to hammer NS?
In post 53, Dot Matrix wrote:What did you mean ssk's answer was sufficient? He didn't answer the question before we could possibly ask it. He literally did not say, I chose to bandwagon dot matrix over voided and I'm disagreeing or agreeing with not_mafia's town read on dot matrix because of x. Which would have made the question silly. BUT HE DIDNT. He just said let's bandwagon. I'm wondering why he chose who he chose. It's literally one of the most basics of mafia questions and rusty or not you've been playing mafia long enough to *get* why that's a question asked, that you don't get that is mind boggling and further makes. It feel like you're pulling a why me approach. Also, how did you know he wouldn't answer the question? But whatever, I get the feeling that we're talking past each other and I seem to remember that happening with you and someone else in the last game or so, and I don't think continuing on this will be productive at all.
...I think this is a moment of "talking past each other" because I feel like I clearly explained that
your
response to
my
question was sufficient, and that SSK didn't reply at all to your original question about why he chose you over us. That, or I really didn't word my response correctly.
If that's the case, then sorry about that.
In post 53, Dot Matrix wrote:SleepyKrew responded to the question you erroneously attributed to me. You said you'd wait for me to answer, he told you that it wasn't me who made the response, then didn't answer your question and said he'd let me explain it. :/
And no, not in every post do you keep the post numbers of things you're replying to. Furthermore you break up the sentences of the posts into quote stripes to respond to, which makes it even more difficult to figure out what you're responding to and saying. I just have a really hard time with quote stripers (not everyone does, in fact some people like quote stripers); it's difficult for me to get a read on people who do that
To the first part: Oh, yeah, now I remember. But...why not explain it now?
to the second: Well, I do that because I want to respond solely to what I need to respond to, and not clutter up the quote with unnecessary sentences and make the post longer because of that. I probably can do better with answering questions in bulk, , like in the above quote and this one, but.
In post 57, Nobody Special wrote:Being the
other
reason for the game, I'm also still in.
I still want to lynch MafiaSSK. He's doing NOTHING!
Well, this is a
wonderful
dodge of everything else in this thread. Same with MafiaSSK.
At least Bert admits to blatantly prod-dodging.
So, Mastin managed to get a quick skim of the thread before she fully went V/LA for the trip, though it only seems to be on the first page or so. Our reads are actually quite similar for that, though, even if she has chevre pegged as scum due to
Post 13 and Equi and Bert aren't as town to her as they are to me. Our melded readslist looks somewhat like this:
MafiaSSK - Null. I have him on the scummy side of null, Mastin on the town side.
NS - Scummy. I have him as full-on scum, while Mastin was just ambivalent.
Bert - Towny side of null. Mastin felt that his opening post was pretty much unreadable, which is honestly how I felt, too. But as I said to Equinox, Bert's tone in his post doesn't seem to be that of scum wanting to obfuscate and distract. His continued lack of helping much is still grating, though.
Dot Matrix - Town. Seems to be Mastin's strongest townread. I'm not inclined to disagree. Probably our strongest combined townread.
Not Mafia - Null-ish. Mastin has him as a townlean, but I'm not quite as sure on this.
Chevre - Scummy/nullscum. Mastin has him as scum. I'm not
quite
in agreement wit him on this, but I'm not averse to labeling him as scum.
Desperado - Town. Fairly strong for Mastin, decently so for me. I...uh, I admit I forgot my read on you, but I'm fine with sticking to Mastin's level.
Equinox - Town. In the opposite of DM, he's my strongest townread but not Mastin's.
I'm not gonna totally emulate Mastin, but I can if you really want me to in later days/segments. For now, Mastin has no complaints with the hammer, so I'm probably going to do that first chance I get tomorrow. I'll be away from a computer for the first half of the day, so it'll be in the last segment, but yknow, fairness and all that.
I have no problems with someone else hammering, though.
" He's also wary of Bert and MafiaSSK but elects to pressure neither. I think from future posts everyone who addresses him is really quite negative and it doesn't feel like they could be the same alignment. Thus I believe the other scum (I don't think only 2 scum is too big an assumption) is hidden in the "lurking" group of Bert/MafiaSSK/Not_Mafia. Post 37 has MafiaSSK "breaking the tie" between him and NS with a vote on NS, but this maneuver pre-NS flip was so blatantly scummy that now it seems he would have pushed focus in another direction rather than just bus his partner. I noticed Second Void's vote at the end of the day is on Bert, which given their reads in 59 is a really strange place for it. 