Micro 370: Gerrymander Mafia (Game Over)

[Maestro]

VOTE: BS

yo bitches

[Maestro]

Social Media could be a placeholder for a PM doublevoter.
Majiffy don't do that thing where I have no idea wtf you're saying for half the game, plz

[Maestro]

THEORY TESTING AHOY

Yo Social Media bein' a bitch up in heeya up in heeya
My Social Media of choice is Facebook
In Social Media terms, Google+ is an abattoir where things go to die

PEDIT: ...whu? It's not implied, and I'm just saying my opinion. It could be a regular doublevote, a wacky PR thing, or it could be a random voting aspect, like we seem to be testing now.

if it hasn't moved by the next VC I'd be reasonably certain it's the former

don't jump down my throat ETL

[Maestro]

No ETL, just habit

PEDIT: goddamnit Majiffy

[Maestro]

@Xay: could be either if it's a Normalized doublevote-by-PM
either way it's WIFOM now till it's on a lynch wagon

[Maestro]

Ew Vett's post are SOOO forced tho

PEDIT: lol
PEDIT: Don't spam, Xay

[Maestro]

I'll bite on vettrock but mainly because his posts sound too forcibly genial and preachy, I don't think he's "plastering" anything

VOTE: vett

CHOO CHOO

[Maestro]

preform

No, you're not. He spelled "perform" wrong under "Setup Specific Rules".

[Maestro]

last post is @ETL,

Cabd, go nix Xay's dp plz

<3

[Maestro]

*helping to bump to next page to see if SM moves to Xay*

PEDIT: dp's are annoying

[Maestro]

Eh, not quite. And my vote on Maestro wasn't RVS so I'm fine with my vote right now

not like I care, but when were you gonna mention that?

you actually think maes could be scum for that?

don't EVER call me Maes - it's M or Maestro

[Maestro]

nope, I didn't notice and would've thought RVS if I had

[Maestro]

k Social Media not based on post count, moving on now

[Maestro]

Oka, you're going to have to get used to the fact that ETL, Majiffy, pirate mollie, and I (or at least myself and those three separately) know eachother well and will act differently than your average player because of it. it is probably the one thing people new to this site understand the least - we don't just play games, I know ETL like I know some RL friends and I will most definitely act different with/towards her than I will towards you. it can and will impact your ability to read me via my interactions with those people I mentioned above; you will also deal with it or stfu

PEDIT: what do you mean "Xay's defense on me"? I'm deciding whether to read Xay's posts yet I guess

[Maestro]

Xay's 117 is him asking Not_Mafia why he doesn't vote vettrock because it seems he (N_M) is Scumreading him
Xay's 60 is him talking about "Social Media" and inserting his read on ETL ("obvtown")

Even 130 isn't really a "defense" of me, he's just saying he doesn't see Scummy in the one post NM quoted of mine

none of that shows Xay defending me

[Maestro]

it's no defense of me to say he doesn't see the same shit NM thinks is scummy
he just thinks NM is wrong

if, by extension, that means he doesn't find me scummy as NM does, that just means he doesn't find me scummy, it's not him defending me

[Maestro]

Him defending me would be him saying "Maestro isn't saying something scummy here, he's saying X because Y which mean Z, and that's not scummy" - instead he's just saying "this isn't scummy" see the difference?

[Maestro]

Xayzeck "defending me" implies an ACTIVE opposition to anybody attacking me
what he's shown is just PASSIVE disagreement with the points made by those attacking me

I'm very much mindset based in Mafia, lrn2deal

[Maestro]

@Oka:


PEDIT: goddamn dp

[Maestro]

not rly, not anymore

[Maestro]

mollie is a she

[Maestro]

lol

[Maestro]

lol

So does that mean you believe me? Do I need to start posting witty memes into the thread?

Doesn't matter if I believe you - you don't REALLY receive a GetOutOfJailFree card just for having a confirmable claim. I've done that enough times as Scum before buddy, if you're not dead in like, a Day and a half I'm parking on you and not moving because every SINGLE point about you being a scummy sack of useless, unreadable crap is still 100% valid... you just happen to also be a PR.

Congratulations.

[Maestro]

...you piss me off in a way I am having trouble verbalizing. You're way too wordy, you have this unfounded belief in your ability to appear Town, and I can infer you have the same thoughts on your ability to read the "tells" of a game post-D1. Reads matter no matter what Day it is - go back to the Road to Rome.

PEDIT: I would think he meant "Figures."

[Maestro]

I do think I have made myself nightkill bait

Xay makes a good point; I was wrong. You seem to think in this sentence that Scum consider your PR enough of a threat that they will ignore your horrible play so far and will NK lynchbait on the offchance he actually uses his PR better than his normal posting ability. Dear god I hate people sometimes

[Maestro]

Ok srsly? Fuck off Oka, she hasn't done anything wrong

[Maestro]

what difference does that make? Yes.

you just poo-pooed somebody making a statement about RL issues that you had no reason to disbelieve. don't ever do that in a game with me again - I've gone through the full treatment of game-stopping issues while on this site and so have a lot of people so learn quick or as I said before, fuck off

this isn't a personal attack - call it negative reinforcement

PEDIT:

I'm

not being an ass, and

you're

not being paranoid

[Maestro]

Maestro, unlike you I am not friends with ETL, majiffy, and mollie.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE THEIR FRIEND

( for as long as this game goes on I'm textually sparring with them over this site; we're not quite friends with people when we're playing opposite them in a Mafia game. )

what I'm doing is being a decent person and giving ETL the benefit of the doubt

[Maestro]

I remember the Road to Rome, as it wasn't so long about for me. I know my Day 1 reads are crap because they are based on very little information.

Glad you remember.

Also, glad you've confirmed we cannot rely on your reads to be at all useful until after D1 and probably not even then. SO, what use are you going to be as a doublevoter exactly? Your ability probably has a caveat that it will cease working in MyLo and LyLo, by the way, and you completely overestimate the ability of people to lynch with a doublevoter present. In a 5-player game you would only control 2 out of 6 votes. With 5 alive it would be 3 to lynch and you'd be gone pretty easily if it's what people wanted... but at this point, seeing you're a VI, Scum would probably keep you alive and just convince you (which I'm sure they could) to make their Scumwin easier by just voting with them.

You're more of a liability than anything else to this Town.

PEDIT: Oka, it's nothing to with readability. Remember what I said about not expecting to be carried by you? Well I

REALLY

wouldn't expect to be carried by somebody who has posted like he has. I'll want to lynch him in a few days if we can spare the lynch and he's not dead yet.

PEDIT: lol yeah Rach... takes advantage of sympathy somewhat, but she does have a lot going on
admittedly, that means she shouldn't be signing up for games, but that's totally not the issue in this case

[Maestro]

I'm confident ETL is Town, and vettrock has no reason for voting me other than what HE HIMSELF HAS ADMITTED IS PLAYSTYLE-BASED. He literally just voted me after a post in which I was mean to him. Wah. Wah. He thinks my "attitude" is scum because I'm a harsh and abrasive player... I'm ALWAYS a harsh and abrasive player. This is bullshit.

Think about why you're voting and think about how you're wrong.

Oka, why am I scum other for being a meanypants. Which vettrock already mentioned.

[Maestro]

Speak up folks, nows your chance

[Maestro]

also vettrock you've invalidated any credibility you had by saying you agree D1 reads are pointless (which is something I vehemently disagree with, if you hadn't noticed) so I'm not even going to give you the time of day unless you start explaining something (literally, anything) about the following:

• why you are more of an asset to us than a liability if your reads suck
  
• why you apparently don't have much of a heart for aggressive play
  
• why you OMGUS when faced with such play
  
• why you have any scumread at all on ETL

[Maestro]

Maestro, don't talk about ongoing games.

WTF are you talking about here btw

[Maestro]

vett may be a PR but he's a useless one at the moment, as long as he's impossible for me to read

I've left my vote on vettrock but if you

ACTUALLY READ

my posts you'd see I'm not scumreading him:

1. I was egging him to take a stance on

SOMETHING

and I guess it worked. So far his posts have been wordy, fencesitty bullshit so if he wants to try and lynch me today he can fight that uphill battle but it's not gonna happen.
2. I've said multiple times I don't want him lynched today because he is as close as we have to something confirmed PR (but

NOT

confirmed Town). If he's still alive later on in the game because scum are saving him as the lynchbait he is,

THEN

I want him out of the way because A: I don't trust his doublevote in MyLo/LyLo if he even keeps it at that point, and B: he muddies the waters the longer he's alive.

[Maestro]

Here's the thing, Oka. You criticize ETL and I (separately) for appearing associated with or defending the other one, but really we, if anybody, have a surefire reason for that.

You made a stupid criticism of ETL (probably accurately) sharing she didn't feel well and I called you out for bitching at a friend of mine, and she's not "fitting in" by seconding my call for you to "fuck off", she's sticking up for herself. It admittedly wasn't my battle to begin with.

NOW WHEN YOU THINK

(like with your

brain

) about the fact that we've shared how we're friends outside of this game, I'm wondering why you and vettrock seem to be so in synch over the past page and half or so. Why does your "paranoia" extend to ETL harmlessly letting us know she's sick IRL but not to vettrock's seeming cognitive parallel to your own?

You're seriously telling me we have no right to look like friends in a game when you two look more like scummates? Let's think about that though. vettrock's probably not scum, is he? So that leaves... you've shifted to following pretty much exactly what vettrock's done (accepting his claim at face value, parroting his reads) ever since he came out as "the closest thing we have to confirmed anything". You're the picturesque buddyer.

VOTE: Oka

PEDIT: OH THE IRONY YOU SCUMFUCK

[Maestro]

vettork isn't confTown. He is confDoublevoter.

Don't EVER tell me what to do again.

[Maestro]

Thats were we differ. I think Vett is perfectly capable of handling situations and is conf town. I like his posts. You should unvote him and start scumhunting.

this doesn't address the fact that you were 100% wrong and tried to misrep me when you said I was scumreading vettrock; nice try tho. lynch Oka plz

[Maestro]

vettork isn't confTown. He is confDoublevoter.

I will say it as many times as necessary. This is not an Open Setup. No claim is confTown until a flip.

THAT'S

paranoia you can live by in a Mafia game. Now go fuck a duck.

You should unvote him and start scumhunting.

That sure looks like you telling me to do something.

I'm a bit touchy with the fuckos in this game and I'm not having another 1v1 dialogue with you.
I'm leaving this game for the night.

vederti stronzo

PEDIT: vettork, Scum doublevoters are almost as likely as Town ones, neither keep their ability to doublevote in MyLo/LyLo in practice, and I see neither as being necessarily more likely given what I see as shitty play so far. This is a theme game; theme games have fakeclaims for flavor. I don't care if you say you're Jesus F. Christ -

ANY NAME YOU GIVE ME FOR FLAVOR COULD EASILY BE FAKE AND AS A MOD WHO HAS RUN THEME GAMES I KNOW THIS AND YOU APPARENTLY DO NOT SO YOU ARE WRONG

. Period. "George Takei" means nothing.

1. Of course my reads aren't 100% correct. Who's twisting words now? Or are you trying to be funny? I'm not fucking laughing. Cut your comedic career short and start taking me seriously.
2. I'll look into where exactly I'm 99% certain you used the word "pointless" but saying D1 reads "are not as accurate, and have a much higher chance of being wrong" is just plain WRONG also so I'm sorry I misinterpreted something but you're full of shit here too if you think D1 isn't the

SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ANY FUCKING MAFIA GAME

.
3. See below the fly on my shorts.
4. Mostly what?

RE - your PEDIT: now that I think about it, how the fuck would George Takei even fit into this? It would be hard to check his Facebook page or Twitter (he posts SO much) but I'm pretty sure he wasn't the internet demagogue he is now back when this redistricting was taking place. He wouldn't have had the influence.

PEDIT: Oka, you're not gonna get through this game if you try to slide onto vettrock's dick and think I don't notice. You are literally parroting everything he says now (including his reads) for no reason of your own other than ETL has a fever and I'm being a meanypants.

[Maestro]

DO NOT EXPECT ME TO RESPOND AGAIN TO EITHER OF YOU FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS

, I'm imposing this on myself so I don't get force-replaced for tearing you shits a new one

vederti stronzo

[Maestro]

He's finished a single Micro outside the Newbie Queue.

"The Murder of Doctor Pepper" - looks like one of his Newbies (where he was Town and won) also included you...?
Either way, 3 only makes a "streak" in League of Legends. 3 wins means nothing to me and VI status changes from game to game.

[Maestro]

Mollie. You just quoted Shakespeare.

Is that a scumclaim?

[Maestro]

If you can't be bothered to go back and look at it before you claim something with 99% certainty, that is because you are scum and you just making things up to push your agenda.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

"If you can't be bothered to go back and look at it before you claim something with 99% certainty..."

...Maybe it's because you feel so harshly incensed by two players' coordinated attack that you completely blow up in-thread so badly Iyou get talked to by the Mod and get informally asked to stop posting until you can cool my jets. Not only that, maybe it's because Iyou still can't even find the words to express how much another players' posts piss me off for a reason you can't quite put my finger on. Finally, maybe it's because you're

BEYOND

frustrated with the fact that you're being told that

YOU'RE

scummy for maintaining paranoia in the face of that same players' PR claim which was the only thing that stopped them from getting lynched for their horrible play so far in a game.

But what the

FUCK

do I know, amIright?

[Maestro]

See? I couldn't even fucking type out pronouns correctly.

Pretend that whole goddamn paragraph is in second person and accept that it refers to my mindset yesterday, then stop being a cunt, then don't expect me to post again for another 18 hours because you can literally post anything and reading it would send me into a rage.

I can't tell whether it's your excessive roundabout wordiness, your rampant, continuous lack of investment in any read except for your incorrect, badly-based scumread on me, your cocky attitude in the face of less than stellar play, or your PR which will be useless as long as you have no accurate reads and are being "overly cautious". I can't tell what the fuck it is, but I may need to replace out because I literally can't respond to you in a civil manner.

[Maestro]

MAYBE IT'S THE FACT THAT YOUR POSTS ARE 50% INFORMATION AND 5% ANALYSIS; THE REST BEING USELESS WORDS
it should probably be closer to the other way around but again, WHAT THE FUCK DO I KNOW

OH WAIT, A LOT

BREVITY IS THE SOUL OF WIT (and intelligence) FUCKO

go read some Shakespeare, then maybe we'll have something in common during this game

[Maestro]

FUCKING

[Maestro]

PAGETOP

[Maestro]

Shut the ACTUAL FUCK up Oka
What did I say about telling me to do shit?

If I thought vettrock was scum who needed lynching now I WOULD BE VOTING HIM

RUB YOUR BRAIN CELLS TOGETHER
AND TELL THE CLASS WHAT THAT MUST MEAN

[Maestro]

You can't read and you're scum
Really fuckin unfortunate combination there bud

[Maestro]

No I get that he's being civilized - for the most part the truth wouldn't piss me off like your needlessly narcissistic attitude does. I also have never felt more pissed off just reading somebody's posts before vettrock and before this game

I need to get past tht
Obviously

But you're still scum Oka

[Maestro]

Goddamnit cabd this is content

[Maestro]

[quote="In post 357, OkaPoka"]Maestro are you always this pissy?

Can I have some meta I can read on you?/quote]
No I'm not
Probably not ever before has this happened

No. Go find it yourself. Burden of proof is on you and I dot have a wiki either so you have some work ahead of you

PEDIT: AGAIN WITH THE TELLING NE WHAT O DO THING

Hah hah no

[Maestro]

Mollie. You just quoted Shakespeare.

Is that a scumclaim?

I DID NOT FUCKING QUOTE SHAKESPEARE

goddammit

are you being cheeky scum???

lemme fully review what I have missed so that I can properly evaluate this.

cos it isn't like I have any other way

This was about as close to a joke as I could muster given my frustration with the game state and it went right over your head

[Maestro]

Maestro meta pls.

A scum game and a town game would be preferred.

It's just hilarious to me. You seem to think I will listen to you.
You seem to think ANYBODY considers you some kind of leader here
You seem to think it is my responsibility to provide evidence on either side of an argument that you will want to make about me being scum. I have no such responsibility at this time because you have no case.

[Maestro]

Don't tell me to wait, yay let's see how long this takes to sink in.

I've stated why I have no responsibility to respond to any request you may make right now. Not denying "people" I'm denying you. Get over it. Why would me giving out meta like a puppy with obedience training help people?

[Maestro]

Allow me to explain the reasoning behind that remark:

I can save you a huge amount of time and worry and paranoia by informing you of a truth anybody who's played against my scumgame could share: this isn't it. Not only that, 2 for the price of 1: I AM WELL AWARE OF MY "USUAL" SCUM META AND I'M FAR AND AWAY A CAPABLE ENOUGH PLAYER TO CHANGE IT AS I SEE FIT.

META MEANS NOTHING WHEN YOU DEAL WITH ME IN A SINGLE GAME.
GET USED TO AND TRUST THOSE WHO CAN READ ME OR DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOU CANNOT.

[Maestro]

Why did that not show in PEDIT?

[Maestro]

Do tell.

[Maestro]

V/LA from this game

I am discussing a potential "solution" with Cabd.

[Maestro]

Why no reference to me when you just switched to the wagon I was pushing?
Why no reference to Xay at all previously to this? Why just pick one of the main wagons?

PEDIT: For once, we agree, Oka. This is the bad play I've been talking about and it does us no good to have it coming from the confDoublevoter.

[Maestro]

If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of

ANY ALIGNMENT

. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and

EXTREMELY

stupid since his reads on D1 are

SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED

as being significantly

LESS

than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?

[Maestro]

If the majority wanted to lynch Oka there wouldn't be a need for Vett to force our hand with his second vote.

This is the kindof thing that would make me wary of a doublevoter of

ANY ALIGNMENT

. The fact that he seems to wield his PR like a Govern is both antiTown and

EXTREMELY

stupid since his reads on D1 are

SELF-ACKNOWLEDGED

as being significantly

LESS

than reliable.

Do any of you yet see why I was pissed off at this cocky shit?

I'm confused. Weren't you mad earlier

because

Vett wasn't making use of his doublevoting powers?

Brian, start reading my posts.
Or ask before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Just a suggestion.

[Maestro]

But you've been working under the assumption that he hasn't been trying to pressure people he thinks could be scum. Sure he's OMGUSy, but he's already stated scumreads on you, Oka, and Xay, in that order. So instead of just raging all over the place pretending he isn't doing anything, how about you try reading his posts, yeah?

No... see this is how I know you either don't understand basic reading comprehension or are just being intentionally obtuse. Majiffy seems to understand that my problem with vettrock is the following:

His play was awful to an extreme early D1. My suggestion he return to Rome was completely valid. He had no reads, he fencesat to an extreme, he didn't invest in anything and he joked around and provided no content for any player to go on other than loose one-liners and annoying quips when pressured, and he had a generally cocky and wordy tone in his posts that obscured the rare analysis that was there to begin with.

Once this got noticed he got run up to L-2 over the course of several pages of dialogue with ETL. At which point he claimed. At L-2. But hey, he did it to "move the game forward", so that makes it better right? Because somebody had claimed intent to hammer, so it made sense to claim right?

Except, as I've just said, not only did nobody intend to hammer (which is the appropriate time to claim), he wasn't even at L-1. He claimed this PR purely out of self-preservation and since then has provided no explanation for his odd claim timing, objectively horrible play, or downright lack of cohesion with the rest of this Town. The fact that his claim is confirmable merely means it is a truthful role claim; this particular role is one that is not unique to a Town alignment but because the

ROLE

is true, he has been given a free pass to do whatever he likes*** while the only thing that has changed since his being run up is his claim. His play remains horrible.

Now read my posts again, Brian: that was merely a sum-up of my attitude to vettrock as far as I've been able to put it into words that won't get me removed from this game.

***What Vettrock Would Like To Do This Game: manipulate the Town using his doublevote as a pseudoGovern, impressing upon us as a group the pressure of a lynch

WHETHER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT OR NOT

, for here's the thing he doesn't understand: having a PR, even a doublevote, does not make him God, nor does it make him an any more valuable member of this Town. As it stands, his PR is a negative utility role purely because it is in his hands - if he were a Scum doublevoter this would at least be sensible from a player standpoint. He has no right to push us towards discussing any lynch if we'd rather continue and let the Day run its course. He says he won't hammer until we've had our little discussion, which is all well and good, but his promises mean nothing to me and they certainly don't hold him to any higher standard. He should be allwing the Town to almost decide how he utilizes his doublevote and where and when, since his own reads are SELF-ADMITTEDLY so considerably more likely to be wrong D1. Couple this with the fact that his play was objectively bad enough to get him run up to L-2 and probably L-1 if not for his claim, and couple that with the fact that he (if Town) is a priority NK if Scum aren't interested in trying to get him mislynched, and his usefulness is limited and he should know that.

Yet instead, he continues to play the cocky Town Would-Be Leader Extraordinaire and I'm done with it.

PEDIT: Mollie, you're a dear, but you're wrong. He couldn't be more of a useless sack of antiTown spit.
Oka, be quiet - you're in no position to offer advice to anybody

LET ALONE TELL THEM WHAT TO DO

.

Also, ETL, I realize I haven't addressed this but when you say my earlier "raging" looks more "genuine" (or whateverthefuck you said, CBF to check right now) you really should consider the fact that I'm literally having to comb through every sentence I actually want to post because I've been warned (twice) by Cabd to take some measure to calm myself or else I'll be replaced. It may look like I'm being more cautious or something with my posting... News Flash: I am, because I'd rather not get force-replaced or worse. I'm trying to be civil; don't ruin it. Stop WIFOMing me and either Townread me or don't.

PEDIT: Majiffy at least seems sane, if not less-than-ideally-useful.

[Maestro]

Feel free to actually read that because it's less rage more content. Probably won't post again tonight.
I can feel my skin turning green and I'm getting the urge to punch things.

[Maestro]

OH I GOT A PAGETOP YAY SUCK IT CABD
I'M HAPPY PLZ DOn'T MODKIL ME

[Maestro]

WTF DOES THAT MEAN

[Maestro]

A Game state trigger has changed.

@Cabd: I wish for any and all available explanation as to what this means, in-thread.

[Maestro]

Apparently social media lost its power.

vettrock claimed that he would keep Social Media unvoted until D2 or else we could lynch him tomorrow... which is another instance of him thinking he has more power or worth than he actually does, but I'll let that go for now I guess.

[Maestro]

Clearly, misrepresentation again. No where have I said anything about being the pseudoGovern, or "God" or even said anything that I was more important, or more correct than anyone, other than maybe more calm than Maestro. I'm not going to say I will never use my doublevote, otherwise what is the point of having it. Nowhere, did I say I was going to use it whether we talk about it or not.

Please quote where I said this.

It may be difficult, since I didn't say that. I base my reads off of facts as well as hunches, whereas Maestro appears to base his of stuff that he pretends that I say, but yet can't quote it. Like his previous comment that he was 99% sure that I used the word pointless. I would prefer not to have to use the doublevote because the town reaches a lynch decision on their own. If anything I would call my play the opposite of cocky. I'll admit I'm not perfect.

I would agree that the usefulness is limited as I don't have any special ability to root out scum anymore than anyone else, and that I would probably have a higher priority for a nightkill from the scum, but I would think they would prefer to nightkill another power role if possible.

You don't need to outright say anything, this is my implication from your posts.
Don't spin me into a misrepper when that's not what I'm doing - it may be hyperbole to say you think you're God, but that's the kindof person I am so stop being the kind of cunt who points out technicalities like "

actually

I didn't literally say that so point out where I did, which may difficult *chuckle chuckle sips tea*"

You are hanging that vote over our heads. Yes / No?

It's the truth.

You've said you will hammer "once we've talked about the lynch". What if we don't need / want you to hammer at all? I don't want you anywhere near any wagon that could possibly get a lynch; I don't trust you enough and we don't need you to make shit happen. You don't need to say "I'm God" your last post implies the same:

STOP ACTING / POSTURING / TOYING WITH THINKING YOU HAVE MORE OF AN EFFECT ON THIS GAME THAN YOU ACTUALLY DO

.

[Maestro]

Either fullclaim or stop talking period - you're dancing around things that could help Town if we had more information about what the fuck is going on. You are being 100% antiTown by doing so.

[Maestro]

[Maestro]

s'true

[Maestro]

You've played in a very limited capacity with Majiffy, I assume.

[Maestro]

Except my "conclusion" is that you're confDoublevoter and that because of your bad play your claim shouldn't be a reason to overlook you later in the game as possible Scum. How is that twisting of facts? Anything along the way is rage and you've said that's not your issue; my opinion that you've played badly is something you can't directly refute. So... do you really have a case?

No.

[Maestro]

Cabd, it's 4 on OkaPoka. You can't count.

[Maestro]

Look buddy, right now I just need info to analyze with the ever impeding time limit coming. So we should stop spamming this thread and get to work scumhunting.

wut why huh

this sounds forced like a constipated turd

[Maestro]

Maestro whats up with you in this game you had a huge argument and now you just beetlejuice

really fucking burned myself / tunneled myself out
might take D2 to get me back into this but yeah

not beetlejuicing so much as just popcorning for now

I'm around though so if somebody has something they wanna say...?
another reason I'm probably not around as often is vettrock isn't around as often

btw ETL's kinda pissing me off with her "that was genuine rage but this was not wahwahwah" because she's either Scum or she vastly underestimates her ability to read me based off of which of my posts she thinks are genuine and which she thinks are not

PEDIT: That's not how Mafia works, Oka. You don't ask for people to make scummy posts.

[Maestro]

Except my "conclusion" is that you're confDoublevoter and that because of your bad play your claim shouldn't be a reason to overlook you later in the game as possible Scum. How is that twisting of facts? Anything along the way is rage and you've said that's not your issue; my opinion that you've played badly is something you can't directly refute. So... do you really have a case?

No.

Specifically this post.

What about this post?

[Maestro]

...dat flip-flop

[Maestro]

VOTE: mollie

Oh wonderful VCA

essplain

[Maestro]

Assume no bus

lolwhy

[Maestro]

Maestro, sorry for yelling at you. I just wanted you to stop yelling at Vettrock.

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