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Alice in Wonderland Dead PT

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:58 pm

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Dead in Wonderland


Where Dreams Go To Die


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Post Post #2 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:57 pm

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I will release the setup after the game, since some dead people like to guess along.

I can send you spoilers if you wish. Just let me know.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:59 pm

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Lynching in the neighborhood indicates that the neighborhood players don't have faith in their night play IMO.

Standard play with neighborhoods d1 is to lynch outside the neighborhood and attempt to discern scum during the night via night talk.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:59 pm

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Le Cupcake says:

it was the most agonizing hammer ive ever placed and that im really sorry for not trusting my town gut read on you
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Post Post #6 (isolation #4) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:25 am

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This may come as surprise to you:

there are actually three neighborhoods in this game.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #5) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:27 am

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I'm surprised that the members of the third neighborhood didn't out themselves when the other neighborhoods were revealed.

The existence of the third neighborhood makes it much more likely that there might be an all-town neighborhood.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:28 am

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How many mafia players are you expecting in this game?
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Post Post #11 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:21 pm

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In post 10, 4burner wrote:Oh I also wanted to ask, did Scum have chat pre-game?

They did.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:32 pm

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In post 9, 4burner wrote:RE: number of scum, I'd go with 4/5

4/5 scum in 17p setup?

I don't know the setups you've seen in the past, but that seems way too high!
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Post Post #13 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:33 pm

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Well, maybe not. It would depend on the town power.

I'd probably expect about 3 or 4.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:01 am

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Scum team is about to get lucky with their kill choice.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:40 pm

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In post 17, 4burner wrote:Holy shit.

Welcome Skull. Unlucky.

I'm guessing a dead town Alice skips day phase?

Skull was the only
Beloved
role.

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Post Post #20 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:00 pm

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Result sent.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:02 pm

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You think Salamence was lying when he said that his power doesn't work on Alices?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:06 pm

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In post 125, Salamence20 wrote:Cool, unless Reinoe is *Blank*, he wont have a post restriction tomorrow.

Oh dear. He kept it a secret.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:17 pm

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In post 25, Skullduggery wrote:You put a Vanillaizer in the game but didn't make it work on the Beloved Princess?

That's mean. You're evil. I like you.

To compensate, I've put only 3 scum in a 17p setup. (although you may have suspected this already?)

Why salamence left out his vanillaiziation restriction when he claimed is beyond me.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #16) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:16 pm

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Post Post #34 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:28 pm

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Please welcome notscience.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #18) » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:20 am

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In post 33, Titus wrote:Skull I wish you would have fought with me more. I wasn't confident in my reads because I couldn't vote which made me a priority target. IF scum thought I could ML, they'd keep me. But meh...

Your vote power softclaim spooked the scum.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #19) » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:27 pm

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"Death comes on swift wings."

I suppose.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #20) » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:53 pm

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Post Post #59 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:03 am

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Ugh, these people...

Of course Vi knew something was up with his sanity.

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Post Post #62 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:58 am

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Town is falling apart so fast

I don't even remember the last time any of the scum team was even suspected
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Post Post #63 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:03 pm

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Also, what is up with all these attempts at outguessing the mod and setup speculation???

#slowlyshakingmyhead
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Post Post #66 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:13 pm

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In post 64, Oversoul wrote:I am glad that Vi's sanity was weird, because yesterday was just bad.

Then, you will be disappointed to learn that Vi did not get a result in night 2.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:20 pm

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Post Post #71 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:37 pm

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Another quicklynch...

I'm pretty sure players spent more time in Night than in Day in this game.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:51 pm

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In post 70, reinoe wrote:Sorry about you getting lynched notscience. Marquis was softing a cop result. I didn't expect him to lie, and I certainly didn't expect him to get away with lying two days in a row. Seriously this town deserves to lose so badly. This town is really fortunate that there's only three scum instead of four.

I see a pocket mislynch going into Day 5.

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Post Post #74 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:52 pm

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Actually, I count two easy mislynches.

Town's toast, I think.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:52 pm

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In post 65, Oversoul wrote:Kats is scum.

Kats is probably town's best hope at the moment...
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Post Post #79 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:59 am

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Would you like your N3 result?
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Post Post #81 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:25 am

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ehehehehehue

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Post Post #88 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:10 pm

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It's wonderful that the dead are resting so peacefully!

Unfortunately, the
sky is falling
for the town as we speak.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:22 am

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In post 96, Oversoul wrote:If Matt is scum I think they tracked you the first night, Vi.

So you don't buy into the Vi's theory that Nati and Prof is scum?

Prof openly admitted that he rolecopped Vi n1 iirc.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:00 pm

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Post Post #100 (isolation #35) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:11 pm

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Aronis found the last Alice.

Drama intensifies.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #36) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:43 pm

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Town is now at MyLo.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #37) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:48 pm

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Alice in Wonderland


Endgame begins.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #38) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:08 pm

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Uh, I don't think this game was particularly crazy.

There's no framer. People just misunderstood what Vi wrote.

Heck, Vi doesn't even have a result on any of the Tea Party neighbors.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #39) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:12 pm

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In post 755, Vi wrote:Hi, I'm pretty sure I have a 100% success rate at reading Neighbors.

reinoe is most likely Town!
notscience is most likely notTown!

Vote: notscience
(L-7)

This post accidentally destroyed the town.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #40) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:14 pm

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In post 106, Oversoul wrote:
If they rolecopped Vi, wouldn't they know the insanity thingy? Why kill at that point (after the fail on notscience) when you can probably mislynch Vi?

You should read the Mafia PT in postgame.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #41) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:32 pm

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In post 1313, Katsuki wrote:
Spoiler: SHITTY FLAVOUR GOES HERE
Since as young as she could remember, Alice would always have these weird dreams in a world with talking animals, and giant mushrooms. It was a scary world; dark and menacing, where nothing seemed to be friendly at all. Although plagued by these dreams every night, it was also here that one day, Alice happened to stumble upon what would become her dearest friends.

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Squack and Quack were cute furry little things, always blabbering and jabbering about with one another, and their jokes soon drove all fear for this world out of little Alice’s heart. It was also from this moment forth that Alice discovered how to control her imagination, bringing light to this gloomy place. She began looking forward to slumbering off each night, eager for the adventures that awaited. Squack and Quack would take Alice on their back, exploring what soon became a most wondrous world. They would frolic in the streams together, play hide and seek in the giant flower fields, or lie on the grassy plains, watching as the clouds drifted by. Her imagination soon became her reality, where waking up always left her with a sense of loss.

One day, however, Alice found her world not quite right. The sky glowed red, as a deafening silence hung over her. Worried, Alice began frantically scrambling about, calling out for her beloved
SCUMBIRDS.
It was not until a loud “Squawk” tore through the air that Alice set gaze upon a most horrifying site. With one head limp and trailing upon the ground, Squawk had been bloodied and broken beyond recognition. What remained was Quack, eyes burning a deep crimson, a ghastly remnant of the innocent
SCUMBIRDS
. The blight that followed in its wake had reduced all that was tranquil splendor to a decaying rot. Aghast at how such corruption could have befallen her world, Alice in her sorrow banished what was once her
SCUMBIRD
from her dream, never to set foot into her world again. Although the skies cleared up, Alice could never find it in her to appear in this world ever again, and with that, her imagination died with her
SCUMBIRDS.

This is the most beautiful thing I've read today.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #42) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:20 pm

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Spoiler: Mod Diary
Sigh.


I'll never yell at a mod about his setup while I'm still alive in his game.

I don't want anyone else to go through what I'm going through. :(

This setup is probably the best setup I've wrote to this date, balance and expected player satisfaction-wise. I wouldn't have invited Vi to play unless I was absolutely confident in this game. I spent a ton of time in setup design and balance, not to mention the time I spent on experimenting with formatting and fonts to make sure every little detail about the game was
perfect
. I know that the living players simply misunderstood a post, and because of this misunderstanding, the players think that I maliciously designed the setup and included things like Framer + Insane Cop. :?

I'm sure they will apologize once the game is over and the full setup is revealed, but all this slander against my setup really hurts. I wish I could just tell them what's going on, but I know I cannot.

This wasn't how this game was supposed to go. I hate to say it, but post game can't come soon enough.

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Post Post #121 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:34 am

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In post 118, Marquis wrote:Don't tell I shouldn't have interpreted that first D3 post in that exact way

I'm not going to be the one to take the blame for making a perfectly reasonable assumption

FG I want spoilers please

Your interpretation was correct.

I'll send you spoilers via PM.

In post 120, Vi wrote:Yell at these fools

While I certainly could point out endless things town did wrong, I don't think people who played badly will not take kindly when someone points out their mistakes.

In post 120, Vi wrote:
...wow, this endgame meltdown might actually qualify as epic. Everyone's just grabbing at straws.


Apparently when one plays like garbage and town is in shambles, one is supposed to blame the mod/setup first. :(


In post 116, zMuffinMan wrote:i mean beloved princess that triggers off night kills, you have to (a) not get night killed, (b) not get lynched, and (c) not get investigated by a scum PR ORRRRRRRRRRRRR you fuck town over sooner or later (the later the worse, town got somewhat lucky he died N1 instead of, say, last night)


But I like the role! Enough to run it once in awhile, anyways. (I was a Beloved Princess in the 2nd Large Theme game I've played here, and I had a very good time)

It's balanced against meticulously in this setup though, with biggest counterbalance being that there are only 3 scum members.

Plus, double night synergies
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Post Post #124 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:16 am

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In post 122, Oversoul wrote:I have been that player that just poops on the mod during game. I also mod spec a lot. :/ seeing your discomfort with it has made me second guess all of my previous play on that ground.

Please wait until the game's over before you yell at the mod.

Because mods can't fight back while you're alive, no matter how much they want to...

Marquis wrote:this setup

i like it tbh

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Post Post #130 (isolation #45) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:49 am

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In post 127, Marquis wrote:Why was I killed last night, btw? PR hunting?

Yes.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #46) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:51 am

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In post 129, Vi wrote:The problem is that I didn't have meaningful results at the time I really would have liked them, and I failed to crumb -that-.

I suppose I could have just accepted the NK and fully claimed at the time but I was kind of hoping to live through the night in spite of things.

It is still a neat Cop variation, though it's one that punishes the Cop dying early. Normally you'd rather the Cop got one or two results early than a full Cop after two results come in.

You got really unlucky. (you got rolecopped n1, on top of that, it's an odd-night role cop... what are the chances???)

Scum were incredibly lucky with their night actions in n1.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:12 am

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In post 136, Oversoul wrote:
In post 134, zMuffinMan wrote:( think that was covered at the start of the day phase, i was skimming but saw mention of them rolecopping a VT)


Ahh, that makes sense
I don't know why the Rolecop claim wasn't met with immediate suspicion given that 90% of all role cops are scum.

It's actually because nati committed a cardinal sin at the beginning of the game, when she decided to treat her neighbor as a mason.

Salamence made a similar mistake.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #48) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:15 am

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Looks like realization is about to hit the town.

God, I've been waiting for this moment for hours.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:44 am

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I've been listening to Irony for hours now.

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Post Post #145 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:26 pm

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In post 144, notscience wrote:They should have outed their hood when we did.

Given that Nati was playing her neighborhood as a masonry, it would make no sense for her to out it.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #51) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:47 pm

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I thought you're crazy or something for most of the game.

It should be a big red flag when someone like Marquis (someone who should know you well) starts tunneling you right off the bat.

It means your game's off, and you better start making friends or
else
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Instead, you went AWOL most of night 1 and 2 while hopping in and out of Tea Party taunting Vi.

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Post Post #155 (isolation #52) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:19 pm

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not that it would matter much, but they should really no lynch here.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #53) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:19 pm

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In post 1396, Katsuki wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 8&sr=posts

I should've checked this then shot him. :(

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Post Post #158 (isolation #54) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:24 pm

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I don't blame Kat though.

hiplop shot is equally as good as MattP shot, or rack/Mala shot.

Too many lurkers for scum to hide behind.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #55) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:17 pm

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End is near.

Aronis, aligned with Town, is at L-1, and it's MyLo with two scum off wagon.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #56) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:24 pm

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And a self-hammer.

A fitting end to this game, I suppose.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #57) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:40 pm

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Game over.

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