Micro 381 - 999 Mafia (Nonary Game Complete)

[Bins]

unless i'm misunderstanding because you were talking from my point of view

which in that case i should have corrected you cause that wasn't what i meant and i never said they had to be in the same room

[Parama]

it'd be insane if they could only kill inside the numbered-door rooms, I agree
I don't think that's the case though
I guess that's fair enough re: meta, though; on the other hand I don't reallly care about her meta-arguments myself

P-Edit: Bins. The point flew over your head.

[Grib]

Maybe think of it not as rooms, but groups. Being out of a room = still a group.

[Bins]

then explain it to me rather than saying i dont understand

[Parama]

Okay.
For the record I am saying.

Right now we are all in a big room connected to 9 other rooms, yes?
So scum could kill. In this room. I don't see how that's different from them killing inside a numbered room. The point is to have players split up and choices narrowed as a result, no?
hence why 3-3-2 remains the best option; the two people left behind are guaranteed to live in a scenario where the doors affect the nightkill

I mean this is all hypothetical but it'd be mildly insulting if the mafiakill was just a mafiakill with how big of a deal the doors are to this game

[Parama]

Maybe think of it not as rooms, but groups. Being out of a room = still a group.

Literally exactly what I said, yes. Grib gets it.

Also Bins I already said it early, merely restating it here.

[xRECKONERx]

I mean this is all hypothetical but it'd be mildly insulting if the mafiakill was just a mafiakill with how big of a deal the doors are to this game

It'd be more insulting if scum just straight up couldn't kill anyone not in a room with them since that would make this game PoEable very very easily

[Bins]

ok you meant something else i get it

[Parama]

how do you think the mafkill works then?
does it matter what the doors are if the mafkill is just a standard kill?

[Grib]

Well, the doors mechanic is essentially a DIY Neigborizer ability. Neighbors aren't immune to kills. So.

Also I went back and read the OP. Someone else already mentioned how weird it sounded, I think it was Bins:

Spoiler: dun dun dunnn

9. This game has a 9 Day Deadline. If the game does not end in any faction winning by the end of Day 9, every player is issued a loss, regardless of alignment.

Which would suggest PoE'ing scum based on who is killed in what group won't be that easy for whatever reason.

[Bins]

man i said this stuff already this is hate

[xRECKONERx]

how do you think the mafkill works then?
does it matter what the doors are if the mafkill is just a standard kill?

YES BECAUSE IT AFFECTS POWER ROLES.

[Akane Kurashiki]

I saw people suggesting scum would kill in the rooms which is why the game could last until Day 9.

P.EDIT: It's a big thing when Akane is using so-called meta on me (which might not actually be accurate) and won't reveal her identity to verify the meta.

My identity is irrelevant when literally anyone can go read any game in pretty much the entire history of the site for themselves. I don't even have to have played with you personally, and regardless it's not exactly the crux of my argument for disbelieving the claim --- the claim itself is.

It's also a really stupid, desperate argument to make when I chose to alt way before the game was even in the queue, unless you're seriously trying to make the argument that keeping a secret alt secret is anti-town in which case...... nope, still stupid.

[xRECKONERx]

No, I am making that argument. Fuck you, and fuck secret alts.

Give me one fucking example of why you believe this is a Reck style claim. Do it right fucking now. Explain why the claim is so genius. Explain why it makes 99% SENSE for the claim to be fake and 1% SENSE for the claim to be real.

[xRECKONERx]

Now. Right now. No looking shit up. You clearly have an idea of a fucking "reck style claim" based on what you said so you have something already in mind. Five minutes, max.

[Akane Kurashiki]

nope

[xRECKONERx]

Ultra Mega Confirm Vote: Akane

[Akane Kurashiki]

k.

Half the game has been in here and posting since I made the post you take issue with. All but one of those people also posted after you took issue with it. Nobody else even cares about the meta part (and they really shouldn't, anyway, since it wasn't the important part), it's just you taking one sentence of one post, strawmanning and misrepping the whole post based on that one sentence, beating the strawman into a sad and bloody pulp, and then planting your flag on it and declaring victory.

Less important, but I'd rather replace out or be killed than compromise the alt-ness of this account since it's something I'm planning on reusing.

[xRECKONERx]

i really dont give a fuck

[xRECKONERx]

i said just point out meta you have no fucking meta or you wouldve done it

[Akane Kurashiki]

that's been pretty obvious from the start of the game, yeah

[Akane Kurashiki]

I'm not gonna go look up specific games, I just know stupid ballsy fakeclaims have been something you've done.

You in particular bringing up this point is really dumb since you've played in all your games (I hope) and know it's true.

If anyone else actually gives a fuck maybe I'll dig up games then but until that point it's a waste of time as far as I'm concerned because no one should be voting just for meta reasons anyway

[Parama]

how do you think the mafkill works then?
does it matter what the doors are if the mafkill is just a standard kill?

YES BECAUSE IT AFFECTS POWER ROLES.

in the specific case of you, then
if maf can kill through doors
you're prob dead if you're actually town?

sure it affects other power roles okay.
it's cute that you went through the effort of making a special vote thing (that the mod won't count) to confirm a vote when you weren't voting Akane in the first place, btw

[xRECKONERx]

Yes, I am either dead or roleblocked tonight if mafia can kill through doors. That is what I'm saying I'm not going to announce who I'm sending my neighbor thing to because otherwise mafia will just kill them too set me up.

I forgot I wasn't voting Akane, but I'm serious about this vote.

This is very similar to how I caught out Nuwen during Destiny Mafia II. She blustered and pushed a bunch of fake "That's so Reck!" tells onto me to discredit me or make me look bad, but once they were put under a microscope, they had no actual backing or supporting evidence. Akane does the same thing, here... when town claims a confirmable role D1, it either forces scum to shoot that person, or find a way to get that person lynched. Akane is just grasping at straws, here, by saying THAT CLAIM IS SOOOOOOO RECK! She doesn't even bother explaining what a "so Reck" claim means or is... I say to back that up with meta evidence and she refuses.

Let me tell you how many games I've been scum in during the past two years: 8.
# of those games where I even claimed: 2.
1 of those was Red Wedding Mafia, which became infamous for my Robb Stark fakeclaim + hammer post in LyLo.
1 of those was Destiny Mafia, where I fucked up my fakeclaim and claimed something that was literally impossible.

1/8 isn't really OMG THAT'S SUCH A RECK CLAIM so yes, I'm very curious to know where this idea of me being a fakeclaim pr0 comes from

[Jackel98]

Sorry, real life caught up to me. I don't think that meta is needed to make a decision on a person when that person has been acting the same way since the beginning of the game.

I'd be all for the putting Reck in a room with the two towniest people, except that that leaves a lynch for today.
I think Grib is town. He's contributing with things that make sense, progress the game, and help town.
Parama is null-town. Bins is null-scum. Akane is town. I have reasons.