You sure are digging in your heels on an RVS vote, and the deliberate misrep means more coming from an SE than if it had simply been a newbie.
Serious vote is serious. RVS over.
Aphix is undoubtedly my strongest town read for his attempts to get the game started. I don't think the misrep had any scum motivation behind it: he was bored because the game was going slowly, and so he pressured Klingon to get a reaction out of him and jumped the gun too hard when looking for contradictions.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (
and thus having no interaction to analyze
) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
You sure are digging in your heels on an RVS vote, and the deliberate misrep means more coming from an SE than if it had simply been a newbie.
Serious vote is serious. RVS over.
Aphix is undoubtedly my strongest town read for his attempts to get the game started. I don't think the misrep had any scum motivation behind it: he was bored because the game was going slowly, and so he pressured Klingon to get a reaction out of him and jumped the gun too hard when looking for contradictions.
I actually agree with you. Shinobi is the one that has pinged my scumdar with irrational excuses and deflection.
In post 44, House wrote:Shinobi or aphix, I want to hear from one of you an explanation on how a player can suspect someone of being scum that hasn't even posted.
I refuse to address either of you until one of you explains this sort of strategy.
The only legitimate reasons to have a serious suspicion on a player who hasn't posted are 1) night info, or 2) town reads on the rest of the playerlist. Since these are both illegitimate at this point in the game, I find it pretty reasonable for aphix to call someone out when he sees them with a scumread on a non posting player. Sure, he interpreted it incorrectly, but I don't see strong reasoning for scum to misrep town on page 2 of a game: it's not like he's getting a mislynch out of it.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (
and thus having no interaction to analyze
) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
Aggressive and logical is good, but twisting a person's words to pressure them is b/s.
You sure are digging in your heels on an RVS vote, and the deliberate misrep means more coming from an SE than if it had simply been a newbie.
Serious vote is serious. RVS over.
Aphix is undoubtedly my strongest town read for his attempts to get the game started. I don't think the misrep had any scum motivation behind it: he was bored because the game was going slowly, and so he pressured Klingon to get a reaction out of him and jumped the gun too hard when looking for contradictions.
I actually agree with you. Shinobi is the one that has pinged my scumdar with irrational excuses and deflection.
VOTE: Shinobi
I fail to see anything scummy about my posts, but maybe I'm biased.
Could you explain without simplifying my posts into nothingness?
In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (
and thus having no interaction to analyze
) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
Aggressive and logical is good, but twisting a person's words to pressure them is b/s.
Hardly twisting words. Perhaps you are reading too much into the caps that are there because my phone weirded out and I wasn't going to go back and retype everything.
In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (
and thus having no interaction to analyze
) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
Aggressive and logical is good, but twisting a person's words to pressure them is b/s.
Hardly twisting words. Perhaps you are reading too much into the caps that are there because my phone weirded out and I wasn't going to go back and retype everything.
In post 44, House wrote:Shinobi or aphix, I want to hear from one of you an explanation on how a player can suspect someone of being scum that hasn't even posted.
I refuse to address either of you until one of you explains this sort of strategy.
The only legitimate reasons to have a serious suspicion on a player who hasn't posted are 1) night info, or 2) town reads on the rest of the playerlist. Since these are both illegitimate at this point in the game, I find it pretty reasonable for aphix to call someone out when he sees them with a scumread on a non posting player. Sure, he interpreted it incorrectly, but I don't see strong reasoning for scum to misrep town on page 2 of a game: it's not like he's getting a mislynch out of it.
Umm, letmethinkaboutitno.
He flipped out over my RVSing an IC. He didn't say shit about you being a lurker. Nor did I.
In post 42, Shinobi wrote:It doesn't matter if RVS has a purpose or not. You can totes question someone on their RVS.
I don't get why you're classifying my arguments as "white knighting" when I'm just trying to understand where this argument is coming from. It really doesn't feel all that important.
Funny, voting someone for acting scummy isn't all that important... but giving a player the third degree for casting a random vote on somebody that hasn't even posted yet (
and thus having no interaction to analyze
) is somehow justifiable?
Moonlogic.
It seems justifiable to me. The game hadn't started, aphix isn't sure how to get the game started, aphix is overaggressive, not to mention that I've never regarded overly aggressive questioning as a bad thing.
Aggressive and logical is good, but twisting a person's words to pressure them is b/s.
Then why do you have a town read on him?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 44, House wrote:Shinobi or aphix, I want to hear from one of you an explanation on how a player can suspect someone of being scum that hasn't even posted.
I refuse to address either of you until one of you explains this sort of strategy.
The only legitimate reasons to have a serious suspicion on a player who hasn't posted are 1) night info, or 2) town reads on the rest of the playerlist. Since these are both illegitimate at this point in the game, I find it pretty reasonable for aphix to call someone out when he sees them with a scumread on a non posting player. Sure, he interpreted it incorrectly, but I don't see strong reasoning for scum to misrep town on page 2 of a game: it's not like he's getting a mislynch out of it.
Umm, letmethinkaboutitno.
He flipped out over my RVSing an IC. He didn't say shit about you being a lurker. Nor did I.
You two are terrible as Scum.
House stated that Aphix bringing up the possibility of you thinking I was scum didn't make sense because you would have no legitimate reason to suspect someone who hadn't posted. I agreed there was no legitimate reason to suspect someone who hadn't posted, then pointed out that would actually be a pretty solid reason to question someone.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
