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chamber Cases are scummy
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In post 36625, xRECKONERx wrote:mana crystal is the correct start 98% of the time on ryze
In that you should probably only be picking ryze when it is the correct start, sure?Taking a break from the site.-
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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In post 36626, chamber wrote:In post 36625, xRECKONERx wrote:mana crystal is the correct start 98% of the time on ryze
In that you should probably only be picking ryze when it is the correct start, sure?
uh no, building anything other than mana crystal is pretty much a waste on ryze. dorans ring is absolutely awful. dorans shield is less awful than dring but not by much. neither item has any stats that ryze wantsgreen shirt thursdays-
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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Voidedmafia Jack of All Trades
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In post 36617, JasonWazza wrote:P-EDIT: I think she was refering to the late game beast part more then the early game crappy part.
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But yes. I was mainly referring to the hypercarry part, though the crappy early game part was also implied.2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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In post 36627, notscience wrote:All of nami's skills give the speedboost, Glork.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
Edit: I'm going to try to explain this by reiterating the context of our discussion and doing some simple math for you.
1) In the conversation, cabs specifically asked why you would cast Q on yourself or an ally.
2) BROseidon responded by saying you could use Nami's Q to get to lane or roam faster.
3) Thus, we are specifically talking aboutwhether it is useful to cast Nami's Q on yourself to roam or move down lane faster.
4) Nami's base movement speed is 335. This means that in 1 second, she moves 335 units of distance.
5) Let's assume that Nami's Q has a 0.25 second cast time (which is pretty standard for most abilities). This means that when you cast Q, you lose (335 * 0.25) = 83.75 units of distance.
6) Nami's passive gives 40+(0.1*AP) movement speed for 1.5 seconds.
7) Thus, if you assume 20AP from Runes/Masteries/Items, casting Q on yourself will net 42*1.5 = 63 units of distance.
You would still LOSE 20 units of distance by Qing yourself as you head back to lane. You would need 150 AP in order to break even, which won't happen unless you are well into the game (at which point, you'd have boots and actually lose even MORE distance), or you're fed and snowballing hard, in which case it probably doesn't matter that you get back to lane a tenth of a second faster.
TL;DR, don't cast Q/W on yourself as Nami if you're trying to get somewhere quickly. Only E is worth because it has no cast time/animation lockout.-
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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Nope, you pause to cast it on yourself. Try it out and see.-
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In post 36613, Brandi wrote:I've posted this video before and it's from a year ago (I've improved a lot since then x-x), but here is an example of where I mostly just E my adc or E the enemy to get bush vision.
Spoiler:
this fucking videoKappaJust MonikaAge is a very high price to pay for maturity.-
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In post 36636, Papa Zito wrote:In post 36613, Brandi wrote:I've posted this video before and it's from a year ago (I've improved a lot since then x-x), but here is an example of where I mostly just E my adc or E the enemy to get bush vision.
Spoiler:
this fucking video
It kills me too Zito.Sometimes a sandwich is just a sandwich.-
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In post 36632, Glork wrote:You would still LOSE 20 units of distance by Qing yourself as you head back to lane. You would need 150 AP in order to break even, which won't happen unless you are well into the game (at which point, you'd have boots and actually lose even MORE distance), or you're fed and snowballing hard, in which case it probably doesn't matter that you get back to lane a tenth of a second faster.
This is why you E yourself back to lane. It has no cast time."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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In post 36625, xRECKONERx wrote:mana crystal is the correct start 98% of the time on ryze
boots/4 is the only other midlly acceptable start but that's usually for midlane skillshot matchups
Jesus christ no, blue crystal is the exact opposite of what you want to start on ryze.
Ryze is an endgame monster, Ryze has difficulty in the early game. Blue crystal does fuck all for your early game you want items which allow you to survive long enough to get going. In top lane Dorans shield is goddamn amazing, less so when in mid-lane but still utterly amazing in some match ups.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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In post 36639, animorpherv1 wrote:In post 36632, Glork wrote:You would still LOSE 20 units of distance by Qing yourself as you head back to lane. You would need 150 AP in order to break even, which won't happen unless you are well into the game (at which point, you'd have boots and actually lose even MORE distance), or you're fed and snowballing hard, in which case it probably doesn't matter that you get back to lane a tenth of a second faster.
This is why you E yourself back to lane. It has no cast time.
Did you read any of what I posted?-
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In post 36644, animorpherv1 wrote:Whoever's telling you to Q back into lane is stupid. You E back to lane.
Yes, and there wasn't any doubt that E back to lane was fine. The discussion was specificslly about Q, so to see two people come in halfway through the conversation and start talking about other abilities is really irritating.-
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BROseidon Expert Marxman
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In post 36596, Glork wrote:I don't think bubble (even on your own feet) gets you to lane faster because of cast time. Haven't actually timed it though.
I'm fairly certain it does and you can also get your adc there faster with it.
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