In post 4471, Pine wrote:Assuming the Mason claims are legit, my list is:
--Town--
Gameplay (Cop inno)
Reinoe (Cop inno)
Marquis (Mason)
Psyche (Mason)
Notscience (Too reckless and unhelpful to be scum)
--Everyone else--
PV
Shaddowez
Skybird
--Scum--
House (Singularly unhelpful, anti-Town behavior, fixation on disproving Cop inno)
Vote: House
This is what we're doing
In post 4475, Pine wrote:You're refusing to acknowledge the forest, but for the trees. Perhaps I can rephrase, such that you'll engage my allegation instead of splitting hairs: notscience was being moody and refusing to make things easier. You're being straight-up counter-productive and refusing to engage. There's a big damn difference between the two, though I could have chosen better words
At this point, I'm prepared to lynch everyone not on my Town list in a by-the-numbers fashion
Rather than engage with anyone or attempt to do any scum hunting when he first joins the game, he decides he wants to just lynch everyone in his "not-town" group. The "town" group includes the two cop-clears, the two "masons", and one random player. Easy enough to put all town/hope for the SK in the not-town group.
In post 4542, Pine wrote:In post 4503, gameplay506 wrote:I think Pine is scum guys. Like really scum. I am not sure on pere seeing how it developed.
Welp a message to our lovely SK:
Dear mister SK,
We need your help. You see the game will soon be over if we dont lynch correctly today and if you kill town again we might not win. I mean nor town nor you could win. And you see we have no idea in who you could be. So please try killing scum tonight. If you it'll reward you greatly by probably winning. Use your own reads mister SK but I suggest Pine dies. Like stab that bitch several times till he becomes a bloody, meaty mess. Ty ty :3
Pedit: oh house are you the SK?
Gameplay is hardcore SK-hunting. I'm completely rethinking the suggestion of Godfather. I still refuse to support lynching a Cop inno at this stage, but if we narrow it down further with no Godfather flip, this post alone changes everything. It reeks. Also, if you look back at Psyche's Majiffy quotes in 4513, Majiffy was discrediting the innocent on Reinoe, not Gameplay.
UnvoteHouse has a point. Voting Gameplay at this point isstupid, but I now understand the desire.
Psyche 4513 is a Townpost. Scum that think they're secure in a Mason fake claim are not likely to be that helpful.
PeregrineV is on my list and (I think) is at L-1, and is attacking the wagon on himself rather than pursuing an alternative. I'm ready to lynch him, but I'd prefer to have another day or so to solidify my thoughts, as I'm a good candidate for a NK. Consider this preparedness to hammer. Do we have a claim from PV? I'd also like to hear one before the end.
A number of things in this post. First, it's his first of several comments about SK hunting. The reason this is important is because he doesn't say until later it's a scum tell, and never votes the people he accuses of doing it. Secondly, he mentions a specific post of Psyche's that's town, because scum in a fake mason claim wouldn't do something like that; then, when the fake mason claim comes out, Psyche is his main target. Lastly is the bit about PV...something about it just feels off to me, like he's scum that's trying to earn town cred by holding off on the hammer for when the flip comes up town.
In post 4606, Pine wrote:Yarp
This is why I want to kill it with fire
My gut says scum wouldn't admit to a fakeclaim tho
Very fencesitting post.
In post 4698, Pine wrote:Unless contradicted in bold, please refer to this post should I die
I am highly confident that {PV, Skybird, Psyche} contains 2-3 scum
One of his comments about being likely to die, which is just odd to me. Also, one wrong, two to find out.
In post 4711, Pine wrote:The assumptions we make are one of the most significant insights into our motives.
My case consists of two very strong points:
1) You posited a theory that made an assumption involving information Town doesn't have. Ergo, informed minority. Ergo, Mafia
2) You're not scumhunting, you're Serial Killer hunting. That's a huge Mafia giveaway.
Yes, I feel that's a strong case
As for PV, it's a lot of little things. I don't have a bunch of time to put it all together on my tablet, so call it a strong, educated hunch. Biggest clue might be the way he reacted to getting wagoned, and how easily that wagon melted away (note to self, analyze who went on and off of that wagon.) Plus, if he were Town with several people ready to hammer, it would have happened
Another SK-hunting comment.
In post 4715, Pine wrote:PV was at L-1 and his lynch didn't happen, even when 75% of players were endorsing it. If a Townie had been in that position, he'd have been hammered.
Also, at this point I'm pretty sure you're either not reading my case on you or sticking your fingers in your proverbial ears and going "La la la can't hear you." My case isn't for your benefit, it's directed towards everyone else. I'm quite finished explaining the same thing over and over again.
This is one of the biggest flags for me. First of all, it's a whole lot of WIFOM. More importantly, PV was at L-1 in 4542 when Pine decided not to hammer yet. Knowing someone is town and not hammering leaves room for town cred when they flip town, as well as being able to make the argument he's making here.
Another NK mention.
In post 4797, Pine wrote:Unvote
Vote: Peregrine V
Well, the lynch I want isn't going through, I'll compromise for my second pick
Skybird, I've been having nagging gut feelings all day suggesting that you might be newTown with a really, really scummy-looking playstyle. Let's get a claim from PV, then lynch him
PV, you're at L-1 with lots of support for a hammer, claim and let's move on
Moves back onto the wagon at L-1 now, pushing for the claim/hammer.
In post 4828, Pine wrote:Well, SK killed Gameplay because he or she was thinking Godfather
No idea why notscience was killed. Maybe scum looking for SK? Maybe a Townie unlikely to be protected? Maybe just a Townie they thought wouldn't eat a lynch?
I still want my Psyche lynch
7 left alive, probably 2 Mafia and 1 SK. If we mislynch and there are two Townie kills, Mafia wins
I don't understand the reasoning to put the kill spec here. It's just another one of those "feels weird" posts.
All in all, there aren't many actual scummy sounding things, but there are enough things that are just off to make me think twice. Not to mention, even if Psyche and Marquis are both scum of some flavor, there's still a third one to find, and Pine is where I think it is right now.
