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Post Post #3025 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:52 am

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In post 3023, Honey bee wrote:
In post 2354, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I haven't followed the last few pages but Bookitty wants to vote me now so I'll claim. My CO power at 4 stars is that I can vig.

In post 2821, Albert B. Rampage wrote:My wincon is to accumulate 12 stars.


This is what abr claimed. He's claiming a co power that goes against his wincon, and claiming an actual third party wincon rather than his co power is a second wincon like mine. It reads like a clumsy mirroring of my claim.

The clumsy mirror is what makes me most suspicious. And it makes me wonder if he had knowledge of what your ability was so he could. Did you ever claim your wincon in your hood prior to him claiming his?

But yeah, the vig ability seems contradictive.
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Post Post #3026 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:59 am

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In post 2013, Honey bee wrote:2 things:
1) why is your primary assumption that was her thinking? I don't see an indication that was her thought process and I don't think its fair to assume that her replace out was because of tactical reasons and not non game reasons or emotional ones.
2) why is cheet being able to be convinced otherwise from his own thinking scummy? and yeah I really have no reason to have starpoints as I win the game individually if I use my co power. I'd rather win with the town.

I claimed it right here lol.
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Post Post #3027 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:04 am

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I forgot about that. :/ Doesn't look as damning as it did before.

Doesn't Albert ask what people are thinking of certain people this game? It kinda feels like a vig looking for direction to me.
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Post Post #3028 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:06 am

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Or maybe he just asked about Honeybee?
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Post Post #3029 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:10 am

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Tbh when I played with town abr I don't remember him caring at all what anyone else thought. And I don't see him caring about who he shoots unless he's town.
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Post Post #3030 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:10 am

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Okay, I have a stupid question.

Don't CO Powers expend stars when they're used?
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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Post Post #3031 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:12 am

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Yes.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #3032 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:13 am

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My image is similar in that I picture him doing whatever he thinks will lead to his wincon, and the other players in the game are just in his way.
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Post Post #3033 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:13 am

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In post 3029, Honey bee wrote:Tbh when I played with town abr I don't remember him caring at all what anyone else thought. And I don't see him caring about who he shoots unless he's town.

He did the same as scum, check open 575 stack the deck.
I was scum with him and texcat.
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Post Post #3034 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:15 am

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Also, apparently, your Star Limit is your CO power requirement. So holding onto your stars for multiple actions in a night is a no-go.
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Post Post #3035 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:16 am

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Okay. ABR claimed at the start of Yesterday that he was a double voter now. Which seems to ME to be something that would be a CO power because it's pretty powerful.

Then at the end of the day he said he was a vig now that he would have four stars. So he didn't spend anything to suddenly become a double voter.

I played with ABR quite a bit before my years-long hiatus. I also played with him recently. I don't know why he'd deliberately provoke or threaten people as town, but I would say that other elements of his play are not that far out of line for my town-meta for him.
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Post Post #3036 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:16 am

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In post 3034, Brian Skies wrote:Also, apparently, your Star Limit is your CO power requirement. So holding onto your stars for multiple actions in a night is a no-go.

what the hell? this was not stated by nati anywhere that i can find
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Post Post #3037 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:18 am

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Albert does scummy things as town to support his scumgame.

@Orci: Yeah I know. But questions were asked because of 'reasons.'
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Post Post #3038 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:18 am

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In post 2, Natirasha wrote:Unless otherwise stated, a COP is an active ability and cannot be activated in conjunction with other abilities.


This?
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Post Post #3039 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:19 am

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I do see that it spends them when you use them. Thanks, Brian.
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Post Post #3040 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:19 am

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In post 3036, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 3034, Brian Skies wrote:Also, apparently, your Star Limit is your CO power requirement. So holding onto your stars for multiple actions in a night is a no-go.

what the hell? this was not stated by nati anywhere that i can find

mod can you confirm this

bearing in mind i will be cross with you if this is true
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Post Post #3041 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:21 am

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I believe the main topic of my discussion with Nati was star hoarding.
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Post Post #3042 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:24 am

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In post 3033, wgeurts wrote:
In post 3029, Honey bee wrote:Tbh when I played with town abr I don't remember him caring at all what anyone else thought. And I don't see him caring about who he shoots unless he's town.

He did the same as scum, check open 575 stack the deck.
I was scum with him and texcat.

I can imagine but its weird behavior which points more to scum than to benign 3rd party.
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Post Post #3043 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:25 am

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Lol. Albert benign.
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Post Post #3044 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:27 am

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In post 3036, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 3034, Brian Skies wrote:Also, apparently, your Star Limit is your CO power requirement. So holding onto your stars for multiple actions in a night is a no-go.

what the hell? this was not stated by nati anywhere that i can find

This is how the videogame works too
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Post Post #3045 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:28 am

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In post 3042, Honey bee wrote:
In post 3033, wgeurts wrote:
In post 3029, Honey bee wrote:Tbh when I played with town abr I don't remember him caring at all what anyone else thought. And I don't see him caring about who he shoots unless he's town.

He did the same as scum, check open 575 stack the deck.
I was scum with him and texcat.

I can imagine but its weird behavior which points more to scum than to benign 3rd party.

Abr is as Brian said someone who will play to his win condition and we're in his way. Mabye we should ISO him again and compare the motivations for town/scum/3rd-party in his posts.
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Post Post #3046 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:29 am

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In post 3044, Cabd wrote:
In post 3036, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 3034, Brian Skies wrote:Also, apparently, your Star Limit is your CO power requirement. So holding onto your stars for multiple actions in a night is a no-go.

what the hell? this was not stated by nati anywhere that i can find

This is how the videogame works too

We need to keep in mind ABR may have a SCOP.
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Post Post #3047 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:31 am

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secondary power thing?
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #3048 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:36 am

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Right. Co Power. Supert CO power. Starting fro the second game and up, each CO has two powers. One at a lower number of stars, one at a higher number of stars.
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Post Post #3049 (ISO) » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:38 am

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Uhh.. I realllly doubt there are SCOPs. And he didn't claim that, he claimed his wincon.

And I don't see abr caring more as a non town/scum role.

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