In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:
I guess this is going to be an agree to disagree situation. I see where you are coming from, but I see no motivation for scum to stay off a wagon they are never going to catch any heat from. Added to the fact that it is rare, in my experience, to see an all town wagon like that.
Alright, if scum is on the wagon, who do you think it is and why?
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:Which of the two do you feel needs more explanation behind it, a town read or a scum read?
Personally, I prefer a deeper explanation behind a scum-read. However, I also like detailed explanations on players who have posted a lot though, not just a meta-read.
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:I think that the “convenience” comes from the fact that I came into the game as late as I did. Having a larger picture unfold all at once allows for a clearer picture then if I was getting it piece meal. Its like the whole boiling a frog story. Also, I’m not going to really give a shit about what you think of my reads until you out your own. Cause right now it seems like you have something ot say about everyone elses list, while you are keeping yours close to your chest… for what reason?
First point is understandable if you're influenced by what other people post.
I like to keep my reads close so scum don't know exactly where I'm at.
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:As for my Zeb scum read: The first thing that pinged me was him saying that he was willing to give Goblin the benefit of the doubt on day 1, but was reading him as his biggest suspect for the stuff that he was giving him a pass on. It felt like he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. I felt like his interpretation of the Thor/All debate was off, like he was trying to twist it to fit a different narrative. Voting All for showing frustration when dealing with Thor was uberbad. Same thing with the Kono/All spat. My read on Zeb comes down to a difference in opinion about how things are taken.
Hmm, I guess this answers my previous question but I'll leave it there in case you have any further thoughts/comments.
I'm not sure he was giving Goblin a pass? He asked him to explain it so I assume he was waiting for an explanation before deciding how to proceed (plus he went V/LA).
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:
Ok, link?
Ok, so if you’ve seen town selfvote before, how do you figure out town v scum motivation for a selfvote?
I remembered incorrectly. I thought we had an all-town wagon on GM at one point in Open 570, but after checking, we did indeed have one scum on the wagon.
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:
The bolded part is unnecessary and partly why I don’t like you or your play. This could totally just be a view that I hold (I don’t think it is though) but I feel like scum has more motivation to be assholes than town does. And I think that this comment has no other purpose than to poke the bear and piss Xiao off. Especially when I’ve seen you do it over and over and to multiple people, myself included.
I don't really want to get into this right now. All I will say is that I let A LOT of stuff that Xiao said to me slide, like, I could easily have reported him for it. Xiao clearly has a personal vendetta against me now and it just going to be anti-town all game (provided he isn't scum) and I would rather just not engage with him.
You think I have tried to antagonize you? I can honestly say I had no intention of doing so, it must just be the way I come across online.
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:
This makes it sound like I was on the Kono wagon, or are you just pointing out that I am scum reading Kono?
Pointing out the scum-read. Is it still a scum-read?
In post 1114, Formerfish wrote:
I guess you are buying into the too scummy to be scum idea that Boon likes to perpetuate. I’ll say this as plainly as I can. Boon is either scum, or bad for town. Either way he needs to die at somepoint.
No, I'm buying into the 'there was no need for scum!Boon to hammer scum Thor like that in that particular scenario.' It's not like Thor doesn't have the ability to derail a wagon on him, it's not like all hope was lost. It literally makes no sense for scum!Boon to do that.
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.