Mini 1627: Ninja Mini Mafia

Xiao Long · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:45 pm

In post 1273, killerjester wrote:It's all there.

Black and white.

Clear as crystal.

Drake claimed scum and you defaulted to reading it as sarcasm because you knew he wouldn't flip scum.

This doesn't read as incredibly sarcastic to you?

In post 1223, Drake Crusader wrote:Yep I was the master scum. Thought the whole plan would pan out. If only I wasn't hammered. eh It happens to the best of us I guess.

"the master scum" "eh" etc.

In post 1274, Boonskiies wrote:
Varsoon
Zebulin
Killer
Acryon

If we start to lynch within this lynch pool, town will win the game.

Remove Acryon from your pool. That dude is town.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:45 pm

off the top of my head...here's one. Formerfish here modded this game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=525

Argh! You
are
mafia, aren't you! Argh!!!

said by Drew Sta, flipped scum. I've dealt with others as well, because I noticed it as a pattern in another game of mine. I just don't remember which game it was.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:47 pm

I feel the need to believe you about Acryon for reasons I should move on about the subject.

Then Zebulin/Killer/Varsoon should be the lynch pool. Both scum are in that.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:48 pm

I'm most likely going to die toNight now. Please watch out for who is going to be opposed to certain people in my lynch pool, but okay with some of the others.

killerjester · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:55 pm

In post 1275, Xiao Long wrote:This doesn't read as incredibly sarcastic to you?

In post 1223, Drake Crusader wrote:Yep I was the master scum. Thought the whole plan would pan out. If only I wasn't hammered. eh It happens to the best of us I guess.

"the master scum" "eh" etc.

Hindsight's 20/20. I tend to take scumclaims at face-value. Don't you?

Xiao Long · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:58 pm

Depends on who it is claiming scum. And I don't think you can really use a "hindsight" argument, I think Formerfish read it as sarcastic too considering he was extremely confused.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:01 pm

it's different. No one in their right mind would honestly go "guys, i'm scum." They'd do it jokingly. the only time they'd claim it is in a scum slip. Usually by just replacing the word town for scum.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:01 pm

granted, I've scum slipped as town before...so not always reliable.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:14 pm

In post 1273, killerjester wrote:It's all there.

Black and white.

Clear as crystal.

Drake claimed scum and you defaulted to reading it as sarcasm because you knew he wouldn't flip scum.

this is what i thought as well

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:15 pm

In post 1267, Varsoon wrote:Like, literally, Orc is scum but you're all too thick to lynch it.

show them the light, why dont you

acryon · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:34 am

In post 1253, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1248, Zebulin wrote:...Welp.

Looks like we
didn't
get scum.

The italicized
didn't
is a scum tell.

This is insane. Provide multiple instances ASAP or stop trying to push this.

Why are you voting him besides this?

Zebulin · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:24 am

In post 1269, Boonskiies wrote:Btw, Zeb, I read your post. If you really want me to do a huge list of the reasons I think you're scum, I'll do it later...probably.

DO IT NOW!

Come on Boonskiies. You're not explaining why you're voting someone outside of one point where you're using meta, which is a terrible reason to lynch someone. If you can't explain anything, I can't defend myself and you can't get any information about my slot. This is bad bad bad bad bad. Post your case. I don't want to argue in a argument that I'm not sure what it's about. (That made more sense in my head)

You too, Formerfish and Varsoon.

acryon · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:29 am

In post 1275, Xiao Long wrote:
This doesn't read as incredibly sarcastic to you?

In post 1223, Drake Crusader wrote:Yep I was the master scum. Thought the whole plan would pan out. If only I wasn't hammered. eh It happens to the best of us I guess.

"the master scum" "eh" etc.

I could see "the master scum" are sarcastic, but the "eh" is the complete opposite IMO.

Xiao Long · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:40 am

Meh, it still reads really sarcastic to me, even if I didn't know the context. Probably the oddest reason I've had a vote cast on me so far on this site.

Is there an actual case against Zeb? The only reason I've seen mentioned is meta-based (meta that isn't entirely relevant to Zeb himself).

Acryon, current thoughts on game? Also Former's 1257?

acryon · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:08 am

In post 1288, Xiao Long wrote:Meh, it still reads really sarcastic to me, even if I didn't know the context. Probably the oddest reason I've had a vote cast on me so far on this site.

Is there an actual case against Zeb? The only reason I've seen mentioned is meta-based (meta that isn't entirely relevant to Zeb himself).

Acryon, current thoughts on game? Also Former's 1257?

While I do think that it's a stretch to vote for you or think it is a clear-cut scum slip, I'm not ready to say that it wasn't.

Regarding the game as a whole, I'm hoping to glean more when this day gets more involved. Leaving and then coming back to 2 dead PRs and a dead VT that was one of the town's primary suspects is certainly pretty game-changing. This is going to be a difficult game in general, and I'm certainly not excited at the prospect of letting my day 1 reads totally shape my day 2. The game changed completely, and so should the way the town approaches it. What comes out today is going to be pretty important, and I think this discussion over you and Zeb is certainly a good start.

Varsoon · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:50 am

In post 1284, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1267, Varsoon wrote:Like, literally, Orc is scum but you're all too thick to lynch it.

show them the light, why dont you

I'm too weak, Orc.
Far too weak.

Zeb's scum based on his place on the Drake wagon.
And earlier stuff, methinks. Like Thor stuff. Always Thor stuff.

Killer's points on Xaio are bad and he should feel bad. I read the 'scumclaim' as sarcasm as well.

I'm cool with a Zebulin, Killer, or Orc wagon.
:3

Varsoon · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:53 am

Also, yeah, dat Acryon guy is town.
Search out all the peeps who insist he's scum.

Varsoon · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:53 am

Why you acryon george lopez?

Varsoon · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:56 am

UNVOTE:

Looking it over, Zebulin actually has -good- input, but bad reads and votes.
I'd wager there's scum between him and Boonskies.

I just don't know.
I really need to re-evaluate the whole game given flips and interactions.

Orc is scum, though.
VOTE: Orc

Varsoon · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:58 am

Ugh, scumreading Killer and Orc now that I'm reading.

Varsoon · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:58 am

Killer's the easier wagon, imo.
Dude's clear scum.
Bad entry on me.
Bad entry today.
Just bad all around.
And by bad I mean scummy.
Scummy.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:58 am

You're probably town, but for the love of god sit down and sort out your reads

This is me reaching out to you.

Varsoon · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:07 am

Orc, you're always contextualizing your posts to me.
It's weird.

orcinus_theoriginal · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:33 pm

varsoon

i have been exhausted the last few days studying for my P exam and i have not had enough time to focus on this game. but i need you to realize that killjester and i are town because i am starting to think you are town as well

i have been waiting all game for you to start pushing me in a meaningful manner, and i wish it could've been sooner. i have been waiting for you to lash out at people and point fingers at random strong townies because that is what you do when said strong townies discount your reads. unfortunately you chose to do it day 3 instead of early day 2 but that's ok

but i need you to click with me if we are going to win this game. i am town. killer is town. this is because of our actions. me/thor, killerjester keeping town pace moving day 2.

you fucking owe me for winning advance wars

killerjester · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:05 pm

Why is Varsoon probably town?

Like seriously. What the fuck am I missing?