Mini 1627: Ninja Mini Mafia

acryon · Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:03 am

In post 1823, Zebulin wrote:Problem is town-acryon and scum-acryon both would saay BP, town acryon to tell the truth and scum acryon for the explanation as to why he won't die. Going into whether acryon's BP claim is scum-motivated or not launches everyone into WIFOM for the rest of the in-game day.

And I was hoping this would be avoided/mitigated by the fact that multiple people seemed to know that I was a PR.

Varsoon · Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:03 am

My town-read of Boonskies is informed mostly due to his play when under intense pressure.
If EVERYONE thinks Boonskies is the lynch we need to make, then we'll make that lynch.
I'm just against it because I think it'll turn up town and I'll feel dumb for going along with lynching it.

acryon · Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:05 am

In post 1826, Varsoon wrote:My town-read of Boonskies is informed mostly due to his play when under intense pressure.
If EVERYONE thinks Boonskies is the lynch we need to make, then we'll make that lynch.
I'm just against it because I think it'll turn up town and I'll feel dumb for going along with lynching it.

I get that, but at the very least I imagine you'll agree that MyLo and LyLo without Boonskies is better than MyLo and LyLo without another player.

acryon · Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:07 am

So even if we are wrong on Boonskies as scum (which I actually think there's a decent chance he is), our chance of looking for scum in MyLo and lynching in LyLo is much easier.

Zebulin · Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:07 am

The decision's easy for me because I'm betting the game on ScumSkiies (see the super-wall post, which everyone seems to be ignoring). Boon's betting the game on ScumZeb, so the decision's easy for him too.

Varsoon: Acryon wins as town or scum if he can get Varsoon, killerjester and Formerfish to trust him. His actions at this point will be the same if town or scum, so you need to decide here if he's town. I think he is.

acryon · Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:07 am

VOTE: Boonskies

Varsoon · Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:09 am

VOTE: Boonskies
I'm telling you, this is a mistake.
Even if we eliminate doubt in MYLO/LYLO, if we get a townflip here then I want you all to prostrate yourselves while facing Baton Rouge and say aloud, "I am sorry Varsoon, you were right."
You should also post that in thread.
I want an apology from every one of you if Boon flips town.

Zebulin · Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:10 am

I'll post an apology Varsoon. I still think Boon is scum though.

Varsoon · Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:11 am

As I see it, the only other realistic possibility is that everyone sheeps Acryon onto a mislynch on me.
I don't mind you being town captain, Acryon, but town captain shouldn't be pushing mislynches.

acryon · Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:17 am

In post 1833, Varsoon wrote:As I see it, the only other realistic possibility is that everyone sheeps Acryon onto a mislynch on me.
I don't mind you being town captain, Acryon, but town captain shouldn't be pushing mislynches.

I agree, and I don't think I am. This is now probably the 3rd time I've tried to get the town to move toward Boon, but I couldn't get people there.

I will still apologize if I am wrong, but I don't think I am.

acryon · Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:19 am

People have been saying Boon is town for days in spite of multiple anti-town actions, and nobody seemed to have a good reason. I think he has coasted on the "too scummy to be scum" thing for too long.

acryon · Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:21 am

I could never ever forgive myself if Boonskies won this game as scum.

Zebulin · Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:23 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... a#p6509256 Keep this in mind.

acryon · Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:25 am

Add some of 1608 into the mix as well.

Varsoon · Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:27 am

The other thing is, really,
If you want to metagame,
Boon can't be trust telling if he's scum right now.
Which explains that away.

acryon · Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:29 am

In post 1839, Varsoon wrote:The other thing is, really,
If you want to metagame,
Boon can't be trust telling if he's scum right now.
Which explains that away.

Well like I said before, if he is trust-telling then the game is screwed anyway. So I'm ok with losing if someone borderline-cheated, because it doesn't really count. That's why I'm choosing to believe he wasn't trust-telling, in which case I think he is just self-meta'ing to look town, which is definitely scummy.

Zebulin · Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:33 am

If someone trust-told(?) I'll replace out, no reason to play a broken game.

Varsoon · Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:35 am

It's all G.
Don't worry about the trust tell stuff.
Let's lynch Boon because LYLO with him is too risky and because of all the aforementioned cases on him.

acryon · Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:37 am

In post 1842, Varsoon wrote:It's all G.
Don't worry about the trust tell stuff.
Let's lynch Boon because LYLO with him is too risky and because of all the aforementioned cases on him.

Yeah, that's why I'm not. My only option is to believe it didn't happen, and play as if it didn't.

Boonskiies · Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:44 am

Aww, man...

VOTE: Varsoon

Sorry, Varsy...I pretty much have to vote you...

Boonskiies · Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:45 am

In post 1836, acryon wrote:I could never ever forgive myself if Boonskies won this game as scum.

I get this, unfortunately. =/

Boonskiies · Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:47 am

NOOOO!!! I'm not voting my Varsie pie!!

unvote

Boonskiies · Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:48 am

before we lynch me, can we talk about tomorrow's game plan?

Varsoon · Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:49 am

Man, for what it's worth, I enjoyed playing with you, Boonskies.
It's just that if it's me or you, I know that I'm town and you're a liability for town winning in LYLO regardless of your alignment.

I think the gameplan tomorrow is to play smart, forget our vendettas and grudges, NOT VOTE UNTIL TOWN AGREES ON A MAJORITY, and analyze the game as a whole.

acryon · Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:50 am

In post 1848, Varsoon wrote:I think the gameplan tomorrow is to play smart, forget our vendettas and grudges, NOT VOTE UNTIL TOWN AGREES ON A MAJORITY, and analyze the game as a whole.

Agree completely.