Capcom Crossover Chaos - GAME OVER~

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:58 pm

In post 4447, ArcAngel9 wrote:So why everyone voting Droog over Dram?

because ooba got a "Town" result on kbw-survivor, which, barring redirectors or some other fuckery, means ooba was an insane cop. and this in turn makes Dram town, since he got not town on him.

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 4449, ArcAngel9 wrote:But who is confirming him as SK. I read that case but there are no proof's

its not confirmed

LostPatience · Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:00 pm

3 masons seems unlikely, I suspect at least one of them must be a fake mason. Maybe both.

A quick iso on WS shows 1186 as unlikely to be that flavor of anti-town, 1344 backs up, no way that is all scum theater. Reading the rest of his iso I find it unlikely he is scum of any variety.

Going to dinner now GGG I will iso when I return.

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:02 pm

i dont see how 3 masons in a large are unlikely?

ill see the WS posts you pointed out but you disagree that his Elric cult pushing combined with the adorkable result makes him very likely mafia?

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:08 pm

1186 was the other, inactive head, putting a vote on shos. He could easily do that because Brian would just change it later and shos was under no danger anyway.

1344 - i dont see why it cant be scum theater, especially considering daytalk. do you see anything in there that is very unlikely to be between buddies?

dramonic · Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:22 pm

3 mason in large is common.
Ive done it numerous times before.
Or at least twice.

droog · Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:20 pm

In post 4420, Bulbazak wrote:I also did a quick reads list in the PT last night, and although it's probably not as accurate anymore and needs to be reviewed, I will give what I was thinking, as Ooba thought I should give it in the thread. My thoughts are a game with 4-5 mafia, 2 aliens, and 1 cult leader, which means that we still need to find 1-2 mafia, both aliens, and the cult leader. Tiph is definitely mafia, as is WS. Droog is probably alien. TWOH would be the cult leader if anything, because they've been cleared from being the other 2, and they're not playing as they would as town.

if i was alien
why would i have claimed to have wanted to target ut
and become cult

droog · Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:21 pm

In post 4401, The Will of Heaven wrote:oh didnt think of that

yeah i guess a survivor could actually investigate as town. they need buffs to survive and whatnot.

@bulba thoughts?

was it actually town and not just
'not scum'?
keyblade showing as 'town' seems very odd otherwise

droog · Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:22 pm

In post 4444, The Will of Heaven wrote:
In post 4442, TiphaineDeath wrote:Droog/Deathnote, if we are in multiball of some sort then bulba/MS seems likely. Still would not be surprised to see ArcAngel scum of some variety.

droog was scumreading shos and mollie, he's most likely the sk/alien who shot them, doesn't make sense as mafia

bulba/ms are confirmed masons with ooba flip

what do you think about winter skies and ggg?

i was?
also is shos adorkable?

droog · Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:23 pm

pretty sure my mollie read
was a direct sheeping of you nacho
but i dont remember that was over 150 pages ago now

GGG · Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:41 pm

I don't like winter skies town read on me. It's this weird soft town read without any backing. It seems like one of the read this guy as town so when he eventually gets lynched you look good things.

I like pergV's new latest content. Seems townish

Dram - leave alive until KBW goes down then evaluate cop results

TWOH - AA and southern belles have meta town read him strongly. I think AA is scum playing the same TWOH town read game. I believe TWOH to be town though

Bro - I think his reaction was real frustrated town (I get sucked in by this a lot though)

Ms,bulba - mason town

Espy - I have him scummy, I think his claim and the way he claimed was suspicious as he made it like a puzzle he was trying to figure it out making it much more believable then just coming out and claiming pgo. He also on my too logical list. This read is bad but it's one of these gut reads I can't shake. Can someone run by their town read of him

Aa9 - scum for reasons previously posted

Droog - everyone seems to be sheeping Espys case and doing set up spec to make droog scum rather than use droogs posting to make him scum. I'm not sold
KBW - survivor, good vig shot / lynch to confirm dram.
TD - I still don't have much of an opinion on him and don't see where the scum push on him keeps coming from.
Deathnote - definately not mafia based on killing adork

So lynches I would go on are: winter skies, AA9, KBW,

Keybladewielder · Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:56 pm

ENOUGH! I'm not going to just let you ought and kill me. I have valuable information, and you aren't getting it until after that damn vig has already shot someone else.

GGG · Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:30 pm

In post 4461, Keybladewielder wrote:ENOUGH! I'm not going to just let you ought and kill me. I have valuable information, and you aren't getting it until after that damn vig has already shot someone else.

This is well played, force us to lynch you instead of vig you each day so you get the info. And you know the town is reluctant to lynch you. Do you have info that clarifies oobas sanity or is it just filtered opinion?

Bulbazak · Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:31 pm

In post 4456, droog wrote:
In post 4420, Bulbazak wrote:I also did a quick reads list in the PT last night, and although it's probably not as accurate anymore and needs to be reviewed, I will give what I was thinking, as Ooba thought I should give it in the thread. My thoughts are a game with 4-5 mafia, 2 aliens, and 1 cult leader, which means that we still need to find 1-2 mafia, both aliens, and the cult leader. Tiph is definitely mafia, as is WS. Droog is probably alien. TWOH would be the cult leader if anything, because they've been cleared from being the other 2, and they're not playing as they would as town.

if i was alien
why would i have claimed to have wanted to target ut
and become cult

There's this thing called lying...

In post 4457, droog wrote:
In post 4401, The Will of Heaven wrote:oh didnt think of that

yeah i guess a survivor could actually investigate as town. they need buffs to survive and whatnot.

@bulba thoughts?

was it actually town and not just
'not scum'?
keyblade showing as 'town' seems very odd otherwise

The result was town.

In post 4460, GGG wrote:
Espy - I have him scummy, I think his claim and the way he claimed was suspicious as he made it like a puzzle he was trying to figure it out making it much more believable then just coming out and claiming pgo. He also on my too logical list. This read is bad but it's one of these gut reads I can't shake. Can someone run by their town read of him

It was mainly based on my interaction with him n1. I also don't think Esp-scum puts that much effort into pretending to have a confusing role. It'd be better just to straight up claim. I think his confusion reads genuine, as did his trying to figure out if he was the cause of the n1 kill.

In post 4460, GGG wrote:
TD - I still don't have much of an opinion on him and don't see where the scum push on him keeps coming from.

With a cop that gets results in town/not town, there's no way town has a specialized alien cop. The only way that role makes sense is on the mafia team. Hence, TD is mafia.

In post 4461, Keybladewielder wrote:ENOUGH! I'm not going to just let you ought and kill me. I have valuable information, and you aren't getting it until after that damn vig has already shot someone else.

Shoot this already.

Unvote

Vote TiphaineDeath

I just realized how stupid I was being. MS, back me up here.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:32 pm

Oh, also GGG, my Droog read is based on PoE.

DeathNote · Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:49 pm

I want to vote TD but I also kinda wish I copped him instead to confirm the existence of Alien. Well... I guess it would only confirm his role which doesn't mean much in a bastard game. I could see a useless role like that being put in just to throw us off.

I think TWOH could potentially be anti-town. I don't think I want to lynch GGG today nor will I lynch Dramonic.

Bulbazak · Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:51 pm

I think TWOH is cult leader and Droog is alien. However, I'm absolutely certain that TD is mafia, so I want to go for the guaranteed scum.

GGG · Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:51 pm

Thanks I missed the TD results being town/not town as opposed to alien not alien. I should have caught that earlier

I think that's the best case we have today.

VOTE: TD

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:53 pm

guys what are you doing

first we see if droog is sk or alien, if he's sk aliens don't exist and td is just vt

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:56 pm

In post 4467, GGG wrote:Thanks I missed the TD results being town/not town as opposed to alien not alien

what? They are alien/not alien

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:02 pm

In post 4465, DeathNote wrote:I could see a useless role like that being put in just to throw us off.

this is probably the case

do you agree droog is.likely the sk/alien? We lynch droog, we see which, and it gives us information on TD

DeathNote · Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:09 pm

I agree that Droog has a strong chance of being a third party but I also thought his play was town most of the game. Yes, even when he was less active. I have probably just been ignoring him too much. ISO time I guess....

Bulbazak · Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:16 pm

In post 4467, GGG wrote:Thanks I missed the TD results being town/not town as opposed to alien not alien. I should have caught that earlier

Ooba's results were in the form of town/not town. TD gets alien/not alien. My point is that with a town cop that gets not town results, which can catch aliens, there is no reason for town to have an alien cop. The only way that role makes sense is on the mafia team.

In post 4468, The Will of Heaven wrote:guys what are you doing

first we see if droog is sk or alien, if he's sk aliens don't exist and td is just vt

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:28 pm

bulba why can't he be a useless town role with no aliens being in the game? Tell me why you keep ignoring the possibility when it's highly likely that's the case.

The Will of Heaven · Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:32 pm

In post 4471, DeathNote wrote:I agree that Droog has a strong chance of being a third party but I also thought his play was town most of the game. Yes, even when he was less active. I have probably just been ignoring him too much. ISO time I guess....

I felt like this too until I isod him and realized he has basically done nothing all game. A little push on me in the beginning, some comments here and there, and information about what reads flipped scum had with hardly any analysis. Furthermore, his only scumreads were shos and mollie.

He really.couldn't fit the sk bill more.