Mini 1633 ~ Non-normal Mafias Mafia OVER!!!

[eyestott]

We really dodged a bullet there. What could the Belligerent modifier mean?

[House]

VOTE: eyestott

My... neighbor... and I agree on this read.

[eyestott]

Okay. why?

[MTD]

Uhm, you claiming neighbor now?

[House]

Uhm, you claiming neighbor now?

No, I'm telling you that my scum buddy and I agreed to sell eyestott as a mislynch today.

/sarcasm

[eyestott]

OMG GUYS SCUM CLAIM
I can't really do anything to help clear up an unexplained vote. Are your reasons for scumreading me a secret?
Besides, I already know i'm being scumread by people.

[House]

OMG GUYS SCUM CLAIM
I can't really do anything to help clear up an unexplained vote. Are your reasons for scumreading me a secret?
Besides, I already know i'm being scumread by people.

So we need to explain what you already know?

That makes complete sense.

[eyestott]

I thought you might have more reasons than what you outlined yesterday. I guess not.

[Flubbernugget]

i fckin told you all she was scum i s2g
i wanna see pasch push the fucking shit lynch choice case on me now

Awesome you bussed titus gg

[Om of the Nom]

yea nah

[Om of the Nom]

VOTE: eye

[House]

i fckin told you all she was scum i s2g
i wanna see pasch push the fucking shit lynch choice case on me now

Awesome you bussed titus gg

How does one bus a cult leader on D1?

[Randomnamechange]

VOTE: eyestott

[tn5421]

I'm not liking the sudden momentum of this wagon even if I'm not liking eyestott's play this game.

[Om of the Nom]

its not like any of us haven't mentioned suspicion on eye before

[Paschendale]

It's also not like any of you, including the cult leader, gave a decent explanation of those suspicions.

House, you're playing well so far this game. Care to sell this wagon to the rest of us?

[House]

No RVS from me.
Not voting till I scumread.

This is the beginning of my scum read of him. Not the fact he didn't RVS, but the fact he felt it was necessary to point it out.

He addressed that, but I still don't like it.

I'm thinking of revealing a small piece of information I have about the setup.
I'm not too sure whether it would benefit town or scum more, though.

Since when is information bad for town? I'm not buying the thought process behind this post.

I mean, I know of a specific (likely) antitown role that is almost definitely in the game.

Not necessarily a mafia.
I'm an extinguisher.
Now, the arson could be town too, but I'm not so sure.
He could be a 3P.

When has arsonist ever been town?

I think he's the arsonist with conflicting emotions, wanting to play a town game but restricted by his win con.

You didn't use that logic last game.
Metal, care to comment on my reveal, and the implications?

Holy shit om you are in this game too???

You gonna answer my question, kind sir?

Feels like he's concerned about whether town has an interest in outing the arsonist. Self-preservation?

Oh crap, yeah.
like with me, don't say anything that you think will be antitown to reveal.

If he is town, how could he possibly reveal anything more than he has that would make it anti-town?

The fact he's not

preventing

fires, perhaps? (Unless he decides not to utilize his night actions, of course)

We need to stop fuelling the discussion of the lurker lynch. Either we do it, or we shut up about it and focus on real hunting.
I will not comment on this anymore unless specifically asked to.

Seems kinda tryhard.

Thinking about it I don't know how to start the game up again because it's basically rvs, lurker bitching, then brakes.

All those in favor of a second rvs by page 19 say I.

How would it work?
This is not an invitation to vwte me.

(Corrected for clarity)

Why would he be concerned if people put a vote on him during a 2nd RVS? He seems paranoid af... but not of scum.

This is just purely for symmetry. UNVOTE: . Now its a 5 way tie!
VOTE: FuD.

Where's the town motivation for that post? Scum/3P don't really care who's lynched, as long as it isn't them. I get the feeling from eyestott's general behavior that he has that same mindset.

Why do you think Om is not active? He is to me.

The Om focus is to generate conflict and force people to take sides and make reads easier. I could have focused on anyone but getting details from Pasch helps me read both.

Why do you not want to discuss Om? What is your read on him?

Sorry, the other active players.
I never said I didnt want to discuss Om.

I'm not sure on my Om read anymore.
Ill have another look at the case on him, then ill make a decision.

you are making me so much happier with random's vote
at the height of the argument you change your views without reason
now that the tables are beginning to turn so do you

I will explain this.
First though, can you tell me your scum reads, your town reads, and your null reads?
Reasoning is not needed.

Why would he not want reasoning for another player's reads? Those that don't want to post reasons aren't going to anyway.

VOTE: ika
Either a self vote from mafia to try and look town, or a self vote telling us that even if we mislynch him, his role is not powerful enough to be extremely detrimental.

Seriously? This isn't town-think.

Spoiler: something unrelated that isnt necessarily informative

The three people voting me are all people who either replaced in, or werent here for the majority of the game. I'm not sure if theres a correlation, though.

Tries to disclaim his analysis while undermining his own wagon, in case someone calls shenanigans.

You know what would be hilarious?

I think it would be hilarious if eyestott was the arsonist and there was no fireman in this setup at all.

I reckon eye is SK.

Why the hell would I claim a role like this? In fact, why would I have a role like this?

Because you're the arsonist.


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I believe eyestott is 3P, not groupscum.

[Paschendale]

I definitely see the paranoia from Eye. A lot of what he says involves asking for reassurance or agreement from everyone else. At least with regard to his role. On that subject, I think it's very interesting that no one was burned (unless FourTrouble was and the mod isn't differentiating kill types - otherwise I assume he was the regular night kill). Eye should be rather eager to reveal who he prevented from being burned or prevented from burning others, whichever his power does. If Eye were a 3P killer, I don't think he'd be shy about using his power, and no one counteclaimed him as an "extinguisher" or anything like that, so I don't think that he's an arsonist. If he's a 3P, then there probably is no arsonist and he'd be a regular SK. But again, only the one kill last night. It's a bit perplexing.

But I generally agree about the seeming not to be on anyone's side and trying to look like he is. He doesn't seem to have an overall goal (scumhunting, coordinating with allies, etc), and seems to just be trying to float along. It's definitely food for thought.

I seriously doubt that Om or Midget put much thought into their votes, though. I'm really not liking how eagerly they hurled themselves onto this wagon, without reasons, and when asked Om refused to give any. I distrust any wagon she's in favor of at this point.

[House]

I definitely see the paranoia from Eye. A lot of what he says involves asking for reassurance or agreement from everyone else. At least with regard to his role. On that subject, I think it's very interesting that no one was burned (unless FourTrouble was and the mod isn't differentiating kill types - otherwise I assume he was the regular night kill). Eye should be rather eager to reveal who he prevented from being burned or prevented from burning others, whichever his power does. If Eye were a 3P killer, I don't think he'd be shy about using his power, and no one counteclaimed him as an "extinguisher" or anything like that, so I don't think that he's an arsonist. If he's a 3P, then there probably is no arsonist and he'd be a regular SK. But again, only the one kill last night. It's a bit perplexing.

But I generally agree about the seeming not to be on anyone's side and trying to look like he is. He doesn't seem to have an overall goal (scumhunting, coordinating with allies, etc), and seems to just be trying to float along. It's definitely food for thought.

I seriously doubt that Om or Midget put much thought into their votes, though. I'm really not liking how eagerly they hurled themselves onto this wagon, without reasons, and when asked Om refused to give any. I distrust any wagon she's in favor of at this point.

He probably didn't get counterclaimed because there is no such role as "extinguisher".

[Paschendale]

But there is firefighter, which is what that role is normally called. I'm not really sure what to make of the claim. If there's an arson in the game, then Eye is probably telling the truth. If he's lying, then there probably is no arson and he's just a regular SK trying to throw us off the trail. However, since this game is "non-normal", might roles be renamed? Wouldn't a fake claim be better researched and use the normal name?

Either way, I think the paranoid behavior and looking to go along with everyone else is a much better case than the weird claim.

[Om of the Nom]

I seriously doubt that Om or Midget put much thought into their votes, though. I'm really not liking how eagerly they hurled themselves onto this wagon, without reasons, and when asked Om refused to give any. I distrust any wagon she's in favor of at this point.

stop fucking hating on me i swear to god you are making things up that never happened
where the heck was i asked for reasons

[Paschendale]

I'm not liking the sudden momentum of this wagon even if I'm not liking eyestott's play this game.

TN expresses doubt over the wagon. This would be a great time to give good reasons why the wagon is good.

its not like any of us haven't mentioned suspicion on eye before

Om, who is literate and not retarded, reads this and chooses not to do that, but instead to say that simply having suspected Eye in the past is sufficient grounds to vote for him now.

This kind of crap is why I don't trust you, Om. You make noise instead of helping, and don't actually help us make the right choices.

[Om of the Nom]

ok so
i still dont see how that implies i am required to give reasons
maybe you are the illiterate one man
seriously can you rethink your entire fucking gameplan and just stop
you are on the wrong fucking track and you are the only one who can change that, since having half the town back me up and call you wrong repeatedly didnt work either

[Om of the Nom]

you wanna say im not helping then dont fucking attack my lynch choice
which, by the way, was on scum
because i've nailed a scum lynch and i dont see you doing anything but attacking obvtown
so shut the fuck up about being contributive to town

[Om of the Nom]

give me a fucking reason not to pursue eye instead of attacking literally every single thing i do because chainsawing literally everyone i attack and having a problem with every single vote i do is a piece of shit and you should fucking know that
dont fucking attack eye and say you agree with the idea of him being scum and then say you dont trust the wagon because im on it