NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh.

You're a lurksack. So I said I was willing to vote you. I'm not even voting you. Why do you have such a bee in your bonnet over my stated willingness (not even intention) to put a THIRD vote on you? Aren't you more worried about StrangerCoug & I Am Innocent that are already voting you?

This is bizarre.

[PeaceBringer]

Oh.

You're a lurksack. So I said I was willing to vote you. I'm not even voting you. Why do you have such a bee in your bonnet over my stated willingness (not even intention) to put a THIRD vote on you? Aren't you more worried about StrangerCoug & I Am Innocent that are already voting you?

This is bizarre.

when someone calls me clear town one day and then passively states "they could vote me" it draws my interest.
StrangeCoug is just an OMGUS to my suspecting/poking his direction. A very lazy OMGUS at that.
IAI has me raising my brow a bit. I have to do more sorting to see if it is typical reaction or scum driven reaction to me.
You on the other hand start off one way and based on some comments flop strangely and that is what caught my eye more...

[PeaceBringer]

It is particularly interesting in that IAI was in your list of suspects previously. Now, perhaps you are reaction fishing to see who bites, but your opposite play today has my attention. Since this is a normal game there should be nothing wonky going on.

[StrangerCoug]

StrangeCoug is just an OMGUS to my suspecting/poking his direction. A very lazy OMGUS at that.

Number one, you were not voting me at the time I voted you, so the OMGUS argument falls apart quite easily.

Number two, show where I care what

ANYONE

thinks about me, given that I feel I'm posting less often than typical in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

It is particularly interesting in that IAI was in your list of suspects previously. Now, perhaps you are reaction fishing to see who bites, but your opposite play today has my attention. Since this is a normal game there should be nothing wonky going on.

I never worry about who is voting how.

It's hard enough to look at a player of unknown alignment, and to try to figure out that player's alignment.

To use a read on

player

XYZ

to judge one's read of

player

ABC

is a fool's errand. It is a proxy read, instead of an actual read.

I tried it in some games several years ago, and it the results were embarrassing. I don't read players by proxy anymore, and never will again.

[DrippingGoofball]

EBWOP

who is voting who

[PeaceBringer]

StrangeCoug is just an OMGUS to my suspecting/poking his direction. A very lazy OMGUS at that.

Number one, you were not voting me at the time I voted you, so the OMGUS argument falls apart quite easily.

Number two, show where I care what

ANYONE

thinks about me, given that I feel I'm posting less often than typical in this game.

you only started pointing at me after I listed you as suspected and voted you. You have since engaged in OMGUS tunnel.

[PeaceBringer]

It is particularly interesting in that IAI was in your list of suspects previously. Now, perhaps you are reaction fishing to see who bites, but your opposite play today has my attention. Since this is a normal game there should be nothing wonky going on.

I never worry about who is voting how.

It's hard enough to look at a player of unknown alignment, and to try to figure out that player's alignment.

To use a read on

player

XYZ

to judge one's read of

player

ABC

is a fool's errand. It is a proxy read, instead of an actual read.

I tried it in some games several years ago, and it the results were embarrassing. I don't read players by proxy anymore, and never will again.

that really has nothing to do with what I asked you about. You were very clear and pointed on day one. Day two you flipping opposite of day one. I don't get it or how that applies to your response.

[DrippingGoofball]

you only started pointing at me after I listed you as suspected and voted you. You have since engaged in OMGUS tunnel.

Where is the tunnel??????

YOU are tunneling! I said TWICE that I was WILLING to vote you, I didn't even make a case, that's what you call a TUNNEL?

I don't even know if I noticed you voting for me, I am modding a game and it's gobbling up a lot of my attention, everything else is a bit of a blur.

But just so you stop fretting for nothing, here is a real reason:

VOTE: PeaceBringer

Obsess over

that

.

[PeaceBringer]

you only started pointing at me after I listed you as suspected and voted you. You have since engaged in OMGUS tunnel.

Where is the tunnel??????

YOU are tunneling! I said TWICE that I was WILLING to vote you, I didn't even make a case, that's what you call a TUNNEL?

I don't even know if I noticed you voting for me, I am modding a game and it's gobbling up a lot of my attention, everything else is a bit of a blur.

But just so you stop fretting for nothing, here is a real reason:

VOTE: PeaceBringerno that is not a tunnel, that is questioning. I haven't voted you, I wanted an explanation of your actions as they do not make sense. Am I a bit obsessed with it at the moment, yes, but not sure why you would react so strongly

Obsess over

that

.

[PeaceBringer]

quote owned-

[DrippingGoofball]

LOL

HUGS

[TheDudeAbides]

VOTE: randommidget

because he seemed to do yesterday is demand we rush a lynch on someone without actually caring who it was. Which of course avoids discussion and brings on the night phase.

Hey Dragon Spawn, when did you change your mind about me?

IAI and TDA are pushing the fact that there HAS to be scum in the hood, do you think this is valid.

Well, I don't think there has to be scum in the hood, but you were scummy anyway. It's just that it happened in the hood.

I'm pretty much ignoring those not voting or off the wagon yesterday as there are so many damn'ed people.

Scum avoid wagons on town, so this is silly.

Why aren't you voting me then?

I only get one vote.

i think she changes her reads in an unnatural way

and you thought that maybe you'd get her lynched yesterday without informing anyone of that fact.

At this point, if DGB is scum, bets are kid's a buddy.

Vote: Kid A

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Why on earth should we policy lynch ika so early in the day simply because he likes hammering L1 and when we have scum suspicions? It's fairly easy at his point to keep ikas hammering tendencies from causing problems. Dont put anyone at L1 until we want them lynched.

id much rather scum hunt than policy lynch at this point. Besides a PL let's the scum do nothing and move close to winning. Unless ika is scum for some reason. Did anyone read alt who he replaced as scum?

can we pretty please lynch this

ok, Kthx is solid Town. Nothing will change that... ever.

@Kthx- Kid A and midget are really high up on my list. Them Voting DGB in tandem make me less worried about her than I previously was. I have Jogger as VI. I'd have him as mostly Town if not for a few finer points {hypocrisy over his pen Vote being a main one}. I feel like ika's lolHammer was largely alignment neutral. You'd expressed intent to Hammer, so what would be the Scum motivation of jumping in there and dropping it? That Wagon wasn't going anywhere.

@Mod

- This game being flavorless, would you post a different Killing type if there were multiple Killing factions?

Vote:Kid A

this is the mafia vote on my wagon btw

I was wrong, kid a is town.

I still don't like those on DGB's wagon

why are you town reading dub?

I'm not interested i lynching Random Midget.

On an unrelated note, I'm not interested in reading the exchange between Garmr and NJ.

We could lynch Garmr, since I'm pretty sure he's doing all he can to make the game unreadable.

[TheDudeAbides]

that was up to 32.
Continuing.

[Garmr]

^I can be read just not by anyone like you or strange cougar.

[StrangerCoug]

you only started pointing at me after I listed you as suspected and voted you.

Explain how this is inherently bad.

You have since engaged in OMGUS tunnel.

Fail. Try again.

^I can be read just not by anyone like you or strange cougar.

It's not exactly helping that this is only our second game together and I have limited information on how you play in general.

[Garmr]

^Sorry I'm still a little bitter after last game. Even through I know rl stuff happens and it can't always be helped. I play town two ways safe (where I rarely get voted and usually end up being killed a night kill) or gambity I switch between styles.

[StrangerCoug]

You're doing better here; I'll tell you that

[TheDudeAbides]

Garmr's slipping down even further into my scumreads. I agree that NakedJogger's case on d3x is lacking, but I do like his deconstruction of Garmr's case on him much better, and #777 is really just mudslinging and little else.

FoS: Garmr

.

With scumIAI on it? The hell is wrong with you?

um, her role pm.

Garmr's slipping down even further into my scumreads. I agree that NakedJogger's case on d3x is lacking, but I do like his deconstruction of Garmr's case on him much better, and #777 is really just mudslinging and little else.

FoS: Garmr

.

So your willing to ignore a mud sling from naked jogger yet your willing to point out mine. Double standards?

maybe he is protecting his team mate?

Oh look, speculative accusations from Dragonspawn that StrangerCoug and NJ are scum together.
Hey Dragon, when did you start scum reading those slots?

are you never home or something? why do you need to post from work and on cell? only time I do that is when I want to. Its a forum game, you're not in immediate danger, so why do you feel the need to post from mediums you don't enjoy posting from?

Will you say what you were thinking when you asked this?

I'm not reacting to where the votes are, I'm reacting to the fact that there's nothing okay in the case dgb presented and the fact that everyone is okay with it is really bad.

Flubber is still town, which is good to know.

Would lynch PB even more now that he has posted rubbish.

I'll be surprised if PB is scum.

Only scum are in a position to speak absolutely with regard to alignment.

This is not strictly correct. I can think of several town power roles that can "speak absolutely with regard to alignment". Additionally, some people (I'm one of them) will call someone town or scum in an apparently absolute manner when it means nothing more than strong certainty. You have a point that absolutes do not really work in Mafia but I would not assign any more meaning to dragonspawn calling Garmr town than his being convinced that he is.

this is obvious to anyone thinking about it. Which makes me wonder why NJ is jumping to conclusions.

look at this sad-sack weak attack.

[Garmr]

@Strangecougar

When I get attacked on my emotions (FF early game and the mollie argument because of strong beliefs) My game play tends to suffer.

[TheDudeAbides]

These people:
Albert B. Rampage
d3x
Kthxbye
StrangerCoug
Flubbernugget
NakedJogger
Kid A
PeaceBringer
randomidget



Need to lynch these people:

Ika
dragonspawn
DrippingGoofball
YuniChikako

Then we'll be in a good position.

[I Am Innocent]

@mod, about to get hit with 2 feet of snow, and possible power outages. V/LA until Saturday

(longest I've been without power since I moved up here was 4 days)

[Kid A]

TDA if you theoretically could kill anyone you wanted today who out of those people would you kill and why

[Kid A]

and I mean 'why them over the other 3 people' not 'why do you think theyre scummy'

[TheDudeAbides]

DGB because probably hardest to get lynched.