Newbie 1568: Cleveland Mafia - Game Over

[Netherspite]

@dodgy56

And if he flips town? Who's the most likely scum then in your opinion?

@Jackal711

Where you all see the "deadline in 1 day" stuff? It's in more than 3 days... Check the votecount post above...

Also, do you really expect things to be this easy? If he flips scum, look among those who said he's not; if he flips town, look among his wagon?
Like bussing and distancing is not a thing.

Your post feels like you put no thinking into it. Just skimmed through the thread and posted obvious things.

[dodgy56]

oh and if fake flips scum, id probably be looking at jake, brick or cosmic,

Based on what exactly?

based on the fact i dont think scum would be bussing at this point? so id look at people not on the lynch

[dodgy56]

@dodgy56

And if he flips town? Who's the most likely scum then in your opinion?

id have to look at those on the lynch. i would probably also do a re-read of you, because at times you seem overly confident he is town and that makes me wonder whether you know something i dont.

[Netherspite]

I'm not confident.
I just felt our 1v1 was TvT.
So my read on him is slightly leaning town. That's why I'm not going to vote him for D1.

Also, I'm wondering what puts me out of Jake, Brick and Cosmic list ("not voters list" you're going to consider as his partners if he'll flip scum).
Would you elaborate on this subject?

[dodgy56]

@dodgy56

And if he flips town? Who's the most likely scum then in your opinion?

@Jackal711

Where you all see the "deadline in 1 day" stuff? It's in more than 3 days... Check the votecount post above...

Also, do you really expect things to be this easy? If he flips scum, look among those who said he's not; if he flips town, look among his wagon?
Like bussing and distancing is not a thing.

Your post feels like you put no thinking into it. Just skimmed through the thread and posted obvious things.

i dont buy bussing as a viable d1 strategy in 2 man scum team, unless your buddy makes a horrible scum slip. especially in a newbie game. it would mean that person means they can beat 8 townies on their own.. yeah i dont buy it d1. if fake is scum his buddy is off lynch imo

[dodgy56]

I'm not confident.
I just felt our 1v1 was TvT.
So my read on him is slightly leaning town. That's why I'm not going to vote him for D1.

Also, I'm wondering what puts me out of Jake, Brick and Cosmic list ("not voters list" you're going to consider as his partners if he'll flip scum).
Would you elaborate on this subject?

your interaction read as either tvt or tvs not svs,

[Netherspite]

There is always option his lynch won't happen.
And because of your opinion you'll never consider him buddied with any of his voters. Perfect distancing, ain't it ?

[House]

Why isn't fakespeare swinging yet?

[BRickAstley]

Where you all see the "deadline in 1 day" stuff? It's in more than 3 days... Check the votecount post above...

Because the votecount post that says "deadline in 4 days" was made 3 days ago...

[Netherspite]

There is automatic countdown timer in votecount posts.
It is always showing actual data.

[Jake from State Farm]

oh and if fake flips scum, id probably be looking at jake, brick or cosmic,

Based on what exactly?

based on the fact i dont think scum would be bussing at this point? so id look at people not on the lynch

You realize being wrong =/= scum buddy right? And I've seen scum bus their partner day 1 before, sure its not optimal play but its been done before

[Jake from State Farm]

Why isn't fakespeare swinging yet?

Could be the fact that he's probably not scum but idk

[BRickAstley]

There is automatic countdown timer in votecount posts.
It is always showing actual data.

That's really cool. Okay, ignore my posts about the timing then.

[Jake from State Farm]

Been hella busy on short notice lately, and something came up that will prevent me from posting substantially until Sunday afternoon. Apologies.

This is his most recent post in the game, made on Friday. It is now Tuesday. He is at L-1.

We have just over a day left until deadline.

Come.
On.
People.

I don't feel we can get any more out of day 1 at this point. We should allow time for a claim, however.

Nobody hammer

. He'll be lynched at deadline anyway due to plurality lynch rule.

If fake flips town, I'll be taking a good look at dodgy, house, and prawn. (the other 3 on the wagon besides me)

If fake flips scum my suspicion falls on jake and nether.

are you really criticizing somebody's lack of posting? That's funny. From the looks of it Fake hasn't logged on to the site since the 23rd so for people waiting for a claim, I don't think we will get one unless he magically returns. We may need the mod to seek a replacement.

Mod, have you prodded fake yet? if yes is he due to be replaced anytime soon?

I also believe you have at least 2 requests for you to explain the reasoning for your vote and so far you haven't answered them so while we are waiting can you oblige? Thank you

[prawneater]

@netherspite Do you have any scum reads? Who are your top scum?

[Netherspite]

@prawneater

I'm getting to the conclusion that the best lynch option for today is

Jackal711

.
His posts look like he's only trying to mimic scumhunting while not really doing so. He's stating obvious things, considers only obvious options and goes for the first convenient place to park his vote.

What is your top scumread ? And what would you get from the

fakespeare

's flip in both possible cases?

[House]

@prawneater

I'm getting to the conclusion that the best lynch option for today is

Jackal711

.
His posts look like he's only trying to mimic scumhunting while not really doing so. He's stating obvious things, considers only obvious options and goes for the first convenient place to park his vote.

Terrible. Jackal's general lack of activity and superficial reasoning are easily explained by

Still dealing with after effects of a car accident a few weeks ago that is making it hard to be at my computer for extended periods of time. The other place you mentioned I've been posting (a game I'm modding) gets priority.

You look like you're swinging at low hanging fruit in an attempt to derail the wagon on fakespeare.

[prawneater]

re: fakespeare flip

I think wagon analysis is a good first step.

I like your read on Jackal. I think he might a good lynch tomorrow.

@Jackal who are your top town/scum?

[Netherspite]

@prawneater

I'm getting to the conclusion that the best lynch option for today is

Jackal711

.
His posts look like he's only trying to mimic scumhunting while not really doing so. He's stating obvious things, considers only obvious options and goes for the first convenient place to park his vote.

Terrible. Jackal's general lack of activity and superficial reasoning are easily explained by

Still dealing with after effects of a car accident a few weeks ago that is making it hard to be at my computer for extended periods of time. The other place you mentioned I've been posting (a game I'm modding) gets priority.

You look like you're swinging at low hanging fruit in an attempt to derail the wagon on fakespeare.

Yes, I can understand when someone places V/LA tag at his portrait and says "I don't have time to play this game at this moment, sorry." because of RL issues.
No, I don't understand when someone explains his fluffy "wannabe-useful" posts by his RL issues.
Up to you to build your opinion on that, however.

[Jake from State Farm]

Terrible. Jackal's general lack of activity and superficial reasoning are easily explained by

would it make a difference if he was posting in an NFL thread or posting in a minecraft server thread (which implies he is probably at his computer playing minecraft as well?)

just wondering

[Jake from State Farm]

I understand when people have RL issues, and I actually normally don't believe people when they say they do but i can't imagine he would lie about an accident. I do certainly think if he were scum he could use that to his advantage, lord knows I certainly would.

but if we ignore that and just focus on the posts he has actually made, he had provided absolutely nothing of value. I can't find examples of scum hunting, I can't find explaining of reasoning in his posts, and now he has been asked for his reasoning he has neglected to respond to that and instead just posted more useless posts.

What i don't understand is why are you ok with letting this behaviour go? he should at the very least be pressured to contribute because it looks like he is trying to do as little as possible. If he is town this isn't acceptable behaviour and if he is scum, well yeah it makes him look scummy.

[House]

I understand when people have RL issues, and I actually normally don't believe people when they say they do but i can't imagine he would lie about an accident. I do certainly think if he were scum he could use that to his advantage, lord knows I certainly would.

but if we ignore that and just focus on the posts he has actually made, he had provided absolutely nothing of value. I can't find examples of scum hunting, I can't find explaining of reasoning in his posts, and now he has been asked for his reasoning he has neglected to respond to that and instead just posted more useless posts.

What i don't understand is why are you ok with letting this behaviour go? he should at the very least be pressured to contribute because it looks like he is trying to do as little as possible. If he is town this isn't acceptable behaviour and if he is scum, well yeah it makes him look scummy.

My posts actually have little to do with Jackal and more to do with Netherspite.

I find Netherspite's push to be scummy, while yours is far more town motivated.

[Netherspite]

I understand when people have RL issues, and I actually normally don't believe people when they say they do but i can't imagine he would lie about an accident. I do certainly think if he were scum he could use that to his advantage, lord knows I certainly would.

but if we ignore that and just focus on the posts he has actually made, he had provided absolutely nothing of value. I can't find examples of scum hunting, I can't find explaining of reasoning in his posts, and now he has been asked for his reasoning he has neglected to respond to that and instead just posted more useless posts.

What i don't understand is why are you ok with letting this behaviour go? he should at the very least be pressured to contribute because it looks like he is trying to do as little as possible. If he is town this isn't acceptable behaviour and if he is scum, well yeah it makes him look scummy.

My posts actually have little to do with Jackal and more to do with Netherspite.

I find Netherspite's push to be scummy, while yours is far more town motivated.

You don't like me since the beginning of the game so your opinion is biased.
Also, why aren't you voting me yet then?

[House]

I understand when people have RL issues, and I actually normally don't believe people when they say they do but i can't imagine he would lie about an accident. I do certainly think if he were scum he could use that to his advantage, lord knows I certainly would.

but if we ignore that and just focus on the posts he has actually made, he had provided absolutely nothing of value. I can't find examples of scum hunting, I can't find explaining of reasoning in his posts, and now he has been asked for his reasoning he has neglected to respond to that and instead just posted more useless posts.

What i don't understand is why are you ok with letting this behaviour go? he should at the very least be pressured to contribute because it looks like he is trying to do as little as possible. If he is town this isn't acceptable behaviour and if he is scum, well yeah it makes him look scummy.

My posts actually have little to do with Jackal and more to do with Netherspite.

I find Netherspite's push to be scummy, while yours is far more town motivated.

You don't like me since the beginning of the game so your opinion is biased.
Also, why aren't you voting me yet then?

Because I won't let your attempt to derail your buddy's wagon to be successful.

[Netherspite]

If he's scum and I'm his partner, why does choice between us two matter?