Open 588 Pick Your Poison -- Game Over

[pisskop]

Actually, I am kind of perturbed you are lumping me into an association, to be honest.
Why am I associated with Dooku?

[Count Dooku]

@Victor
I don't want to lynch him right now. I am pushing him because it looks like nobody else cares about him, and he will get away with obvscum things. But good job town. When somebody is scummy as shit just say a) he is newbie so everthing he does is scummy, so they don't mean anything. He cannot be scum because he is a newbie. B) don't lynch him because he lurks when he knows that there's a wagon on him/inactive/avoiding specically this game. He cannot be scum because he lurks. No comment.

[House]

Actually, I am kind of perturbed you are lumping me into an association, to be honest.
Why am I associated with Dooku?

Where was your annoyance at this association at post 376?

pisskop & Count Dooku scumteam.

Check.

Your annoyance feels feigned.

[pisskop]

Where is your associative evidence, House? I don't like

playing

gossiping with people who gambit their way to a lynch.

[VictorDeAngelo]

@Victor
I don't want to lynch him right now. I am pushing him because it looks like nobody else cares about him, and he will get away with obvscum things. But good job town. When somebody is scummy as shit just say a) he is newbie so everthing he does is scummy, so they don't mean anything. He cannot be scum because he is a newbie. B) don't lynch him because he lurks when he knows that there's a wagon on him/inactive/avoiding specically this game. He cannot be scum because he lurks. No comment.

You keep saying you don't want to lynch right now. When exactly when are you proposing we lynch him?

Also
A) I didn't know he was newbie. I just didn't see anything in his play which was really that scummy. But the fact that he's a newbie means some of the stuff could just be inexperience rather than scumminess.
B) The guy's inactivity seems sitewide, so it's probably not alignment indicative.

[Count Dooku]

@Victor
When we are closer to deadline, and nobody else does scummier things.
When did I say that you, Victor, said that he is a newbie, so he cannot be scum. I said town, generally. For example Drezi.
Seems sitewide? Did you take a look at his profile? Did you read 401-402?

[House]

Where is your associative evidence, House? I don't like

playing

gossiping with people who gambit their way to a lynch.

I don't really care what scum likes.

[Drezi]

Dooku please learn the difference between "it doesn't necessarily mean he's scum" and "he cannot be scum".

[Count Dooku]

Dooku please learn the difference between "it doesn't necessarily mean he's scum" and "he cannot be scum".

I think it was obvious that I exaggerated in Post 426...
But if you look at your reasons, they are not that far away from that. The only thing you could say was "that is not necessarily scummy" and why? Because he is newbie. So you are not scumreading him because he is a newbie.

[VictorDeAngelo]

@Victor
When we are closer to deadline, and nobody else does scummier things.

I don't think town's benefit from holding off a lynch when they have a scummy player. And if you think he's obvscum, why exactly wait and see if someone scummier emerges? That doesn't really make sense.

When did I say that you, Victor, said that he is a newbie, so he cannot be scum. I said town, generally. For example Drezi.

You brought it up in 426 so I commented on it. I don't think anyone actually said he couldn't be scum because he's a newbie, unless I missed something.

Seems sitewide? Did you take a look at his profile?

Yes. You should take a look too.

Did you read 401-402?

No, I did my own research. It involved clicked a couple of links and looking at a page a few moments. Hardly strenuous.

I'm not liking Dooku right now.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Dooku please learn the difference between "it doesn't necessarily mean he's scum" and "he cannot be scum".

I think it was obvious that I exaggerated in Post 426...
But if you look at your reasons, they are not that far away from that. The only thing you could say was "that is not necessarily scummy" and why? Because he is newbie. So you are not scumreading him because he is a newbie.

In fact fuck it,

VOTE: Count Dooku

[Count Dooku]

434 = shitposting

[Count Dooku]

I don't want to say the same things again and again. This is boring.

[acryon]

434 = shitposting

Idk about that.

@Victor
When we are closer to deadline, and nobody else does scummier things.

I don't think town's benefit from holding off a lynch when they have a scummy player. And if you think he's obvscum, why exactly wait and see if someone scummier emerges? That doesn't really make sense.

Can you answer this for my benefit then?

[Count Dooku]

I will tell you why is every word in 434 = shit, tomorrow, via PC.

[Lalendra]

This makes me feel icky. Why next time you meet? Why couldn’t you be of opposite alignments this game? It’s almost like you know who your teammates are or something…

This is a nice catch, you know? Maybe even a scumslip. It's worth pursuing. When we finish with croboss, let's vote fisaro. Alright?

This does feel disingenuous, but I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not, so my response is, I've got bigger fish to fry right now (see below).

And what? It is ridiculous. Everything I say in one post have to be related?!

I mean generally, if the post is completely lacking in any sort of segue? YES. I don't buy your "It's so silly to assume that I meant JUST her" logic, this (and several subsequent posts) sounds like some serious backpedaling to me.

I want to stop this pointless discussion. I don't have anything more to say about it. Vote me, lynch me, stop it.

This, to me, clearly says he's giving up on arguing his point and is just going for the righteous-indignation stance instead of articulating his reasoning.

How do people feel about killing off Rach?

Don't want to kill someone off unless I have reason to; lurking is definitely not always alignment-indicative, and real life might just be getting in the way. I will wait for her catch-up post to decide.

How about c)
. His comment meant nothing to Rach.

Whether it meant something to her or not is largely irrelevant, it's more about whether he INTENDED it to mean something to her.

LOL

Again...seemingly out of arguments.

434 = shitposting

And again.

VOTE: Count Dooku

[Nobody Special]

You know what bothers me even more? He has posts in two different threads, made after his last post here, one of them has been maken today. He isn't avoiding this game because some irl stuff. Isn't it obvscum?

Official Warning: Talking about ongoing games (even in the abstract) is strictly against the rules.

Do not do this again.

[Nobody Special]

Some clarification, if needed:

"X is *probably* avoiding this game; you might check it out..." -- Okay.

"X posted in a thread (or 'other threads' or 'today') -- Not Okay.

"X posted in all his other games except this one." -- So Bad. So very, very, Bad.

Questions gladly answered via PM.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.08

croboss - 3 - SIR CYANIDE, Count Dooku, NJAC
Count Dooku - 2 - VictorDeAngelo, Lalendra
SIR CYANIDE - 2 - deathfisaro, acryon
House - 1 - Riabi
pisskop - 1 - House

Not Voting: RachMarie, croboss, Drezi, pisskop

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-02-24 12:47:44)

V/LA: RachMarie, through Wednesday, February 11

Spoiler:

[deathfisaro]

I came back from like a 7-city tour so I'm totally beat. I have to catch up on 10+ pages of stuff and I don't think I'm in a physically capable state to do it today.

[SIR CYANIDE]

Alright, so about the Rach thing. First of all, I am actually ok with lynching her. The red bolded text was more to lull out people and see who would jump on the easy case, sadly overzealous House didn't get it, I guess he prefers showing everyone how smart he is by noticing things rather than realizing something and keeping it quiet to increase his chance of winning. Or he could just go back to poorly trying to draw the NK towards him. Whatever floats his boat.

Yeah yeah, I know, being inactive is not necessarily alignment-indicative. Wanna know a secret though? Fucking nothing at all is alignment-indicative. What you do is you take all the information you have and this should create an inner narrative; 'would scum do this? would town do this?' and then you should have a vague probability in your head about how likely someone is to be scum and if you're not delusional that probability should be close to 50%. Can anyone tell me here with a straight face that lurking to this extent is

NOT

pro-scum and

NOT

anti-town? Yeah, that's what I thought. Don't get me wrong, I agree that inactivity isn't as alignment-indicative as things with a similar level of pro-scuminess are, but I don't think anyone here can tell me that town and scum have a perfect 50/50 distribution of inactivity. Scum are more likely to exhibit that behavior.

I don't know why people are so eager for the dooku lynch. I've ISO'd his posts and don't notice anything special. Summary?

[SIR CYANIDE]

also

Spoiler:

[croboss]

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Mafia is too time consunming and I don't have the time for it.

[croboss]

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[croboss]

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