(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[PeregrineV]

shos town flip

Wisdom is town (assuming Insane cop result on GF is "guilty")

this is what I was referring to (he didnt list me as scum if shos flips town), but he apparently corrected it in the revised version.

Yes,
(4903) Wisdom is town (assuming Insane cop result on GF is "guilty") or scum

[PeregrineV]

shos town flip

Wisdom is town (assuming Insane cop result on GF is "guilty")

this is what I was referring to (he didnt list me as scum if shos flips town), but he apparently corrected it in the revised version.

I saw that as well. That unnerved me, but I didn't have evidence to suggest it wasn't a typo and I was afraid it would be dismissed as Titus being nuts. That makes me suggest he knows you're town and shos is scum, like I've been saying all along.

If I knew Wisdom was town, we really wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

[mastin2]

You sure are keeping me busy.

shos is at L-2.

3-12

:

shos - 7 (Wisdom, Titus, BlizZard, alivechihiro, Klingoncelt, guille2015, Pirate Ika)

Wisdom - 5 (Ankamius, Muffin, Bulbazak, shos, Frightened inmate number3)

BlizZard - 1 (PeregrineV)
Frightened inmate number3 - 1 (theelkspeaks)

Not Voting - 3 (Nobody Special, Awesome, Impossibear)

9 to lynch.
shos to be lynched.

[Wisdom]

when we have extremely valid reasons to do so because of certain events and posts in the hood, all you do is point your finger and say "you're scum. oh you're scum too"

then fucking explain those "valid reasons". Come and see from my POV. I have a confscum in front of me and an entire neighborhood trying to save him without explaining why. What the fuck am I supposed to think if not that you are all scum?

the explanation would involve a massclaim and i'm not going to claim for them.

Fair. You have said numerous times that you are not sure shos is town though, which means you don't have a result that indicates this. Therefore why try to save him?

[Frightened inmate number3]

because i'm not sure of the alignment of my other neighbors, mostly muffin

just like how despite titus' result claims i'm unsure of her alignment as well

[Frightened inmate number3]

fuck

can we just
end the day

i want today to end right now
but i don't want to lynch shos or wisdom fuck fuck fuck

[Titus]

shos town flip

Wisdom is town (assuming Insane cop result on GF is "guilty")

this is what I was referring to (he didnt list me as scum if shos flips town), but he apparently corrected it in the revised version.

I saw that as well. That unnerved me, but I didn't have evidence to suggest it wasn't a typo and I was afraid it would be dismissed as Titus being nuts. That makes me suggest he knows you're town and shos is scum, like I've been saying all along.

If I knew Wisdom was town, we really wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

There's this thing called slips my dear.

Explain how Shos is town and Wisdom is also town.

[Frightened inmate number3]

answer: you're scum

[Wisdom]

i want today to end right now

then vote shos.

[Wisdom]

answer: you're scum

Why the fuck would Titus-scum fakeclaim results when it ends in her being lynched when discovered?

[PeregrineV]

I've included paranoid in every discussion PV. I've said a lot Shos is sane or paranoid. Just because you don't like the possibility, doesn't mean it should be excluded. Questionable sanity usually refers to one of the four sanities Sane/Insane/Naive/Paranoid.

If every cop result is going to be the subject of the 4 sanities, then why do we even care? Let's lynch Blizzard, since I am 100% with my investiagtions.

You keep saying that even with Shos dead, we have no information on Blizzard. That suggests we should be discounting your guilty on Blizzard entirely if it's really worth no information.

What makes you think Blizzard is a cop? Just because he said so?
ProHawk claimed town Jailkeeper. He was not.
If shos flips town, we know Blizzard is scum (double results). If shos flips scum, then Blizzard is in the exact same boat- Is he scum fakeclaiming to save his own skin, or town cop? Answer: No info.

Or, listen to me and lynch his scum ass.

A GF Cop is a cop that is also a Godfather.

Um, OK. Which flipped role gave you the impression that this role is in the game. Or could be in the game. Or, give me 5 games ever on this site that used that role.

Also, it shouldn't matter to you if Shos is lying about Blizzard, you should independently trust your own result on Blizzard if it is real.

I'm doing this for everyone else's benefit. See 4905

[Frightened inmate number3]

is it really so unbelievable that titus is the kind of scum player to think she can get away with it

[Titus]

answer: you're scum

Non-responsive and wrong.

For my results to be fake, I would have had to coordinate this cops of questionable sanity with Shos who I have a guilty on.

[Frightened inmate number3]

i want today to end right now

then vote shos.

you'll understand when you're older

[PeregrineV]

The entire point of PV's "analysis" was to argue a fallacy about me being lynched being better.

It was actually to examine it. If you disagree with some part, then give that part and why you disagree.

Titus already corrected it.

Basically you had info on Blizzard on my flip

Your scumflip means Titus insane--->shos sane---->Blizzard scum (all results based)

and no info on Blizzard on shos flip when neither provides more info on Blizzard,

shos flip town means he has result of Blizzard=scum
shos flip scum means he's lying about Blizzard (means no info, Blizzard could be scum or town)

you had shos town on a wisdom scum flip but no Wisdom town on a shos scum flip,

Wisdom scum flip means Titus insane
If shos flips scum, could you still be a GF? Yes. Your direct alignment would only be determined by a Wisdom flip or a Titus flip.

and something else about godfathers that didn't make much sense.

Titus added that.

Wrong. Wisdom's scumflip does not confirm Shos as sane. Shos is sane or paranoid regardless of what Wisdom flips.

If you want to subject every cop except Blizzard to the Sanity question, then Ignore all cop results and listen to me instead.

Wisdom's scumflip means you are insane (pending Wisdom role), which makes shos town. He got a guilty on a claimed miller, so that makes me think he is sane. If he is paranoid, then he is a paranoid cop and Blizzard is faking his guilty.

If Wisdom flips town, shos is scum (your result).

[Titus]

i want today to end right now

then vote shos.

you'll understand when you're older

I'm older than you sweetcheeks and I still know voting shos is the right play.

[Frightened inmate number3]

i want today to end right now

then vote shos.

you'll understand when you're older

I'm older than you sweetcheeks and I still know voting shos is the right play.

um, no

[Titus]

I've included paranoid in every discussion PV. I've said a lot Shos is sane or paranoid. Just because you don't like the possibility, doesn't mean it should be excluded. Questionable sanity usually refers to one of the four sanities Sane/Insane/Naive/Paranoid.

If every cop result is going to be the subject of the 4 sanities, then why do we even care? Let's lynch Blizzard, since I am 100% with my investiagtions.

You keep saying that even with Shos dead, we have no information on Blizzard. That suggests we should be discounting your guilty on Blizzard entirely if it's really worth no information.

What makes you think Blizzard is a cop? Just because he said so?
ProHawk claimed town Jailkeeper. He was not.
If shos flips town, we know Blizzard is scum (double results). If shos flips scum, then Blizzard is in the exact same boat- Is he scum fakeclaiming to save his own skin, or town cop? Answer: No info.

Or, listen to me and lynch his scum ass.

A GF Cop is a cop that is also a Godfather.

Um, OK. Which flipped role gave you the impression that this role is in the game. Or could be in the game. Or, give me 5 games ever on this site that used that role.

Also, it shouldn't matter to you if Shos is lying about Blizzard, you should independently trust your own result on Blizzard if it is real.

I'm doing this for everyone else's benefit. See 4905

Wrong. Two of the sanities are eliminated day 2, much like in a deathy.

If you're wanting to stick with 100% sanity, the proper play is to lynch shos because if shos is not guilty or is godfather cop, then Blizzard is turbolynched.
I could tell you it was the way Blizzard claimed, but the fact is I don't believe you so I don't care about what Blizzard claimed. Second, we learn more from lynching shos than Blizzard.

We knew ProHawk claimed Jailkeeper. He was jailkeeper. So I don't see why Blizzard scum would claim cop when there are other roles that he could claim that are safer that still explain your result.

#4905 and #4903 explain nothing.

A shos lynch is the most informative lynch and the most likely to flip scum.


I don't have to subject Blizzard to the sanity question. He's claiming sane cop. Therefore, if shos doesn't come back scum, we turbolynch Blizzard.

[Titus]

i want today to end right now

then vote shos.

you'll understand when you're older

I'm older than you sweetcheeks and I still know voting shos is the right play.

um, no

Literally, it is the right play.

Let's suppose for a minute that shos decided to conspire with a scumfuck to fake a guilty on himself (which is literally what you are saying when you say Titus scum, Shos town, Wisdom town)... the right play is to expose that.
Lynch Shos.
Tammy vigs Wisdom.

Both flip town. Blizzard and I are turbolynched.

So vote shos.

[Frightened inmate number3]

so if shos flips scum

what happens then

[Titus]

Wisdom is town or Godfather
Blizzard is cop or scum (and must give more results)
I give additional results if I live

Elk can track me.

[Pirate Ika]

answer: you're scum

Why the fuck would Titus-scum fakeclaim results when it ends in her being lynched when discovered?

she fakeclaimed a tracker result on the fbi agent cos she was convinced they were they sk. they were lynched for it, flipped fbi agent then she was lynched d3 and flipped scum. she is derp regardless of her alignment and I think it is pretty obs the only pple who want to keep her around are scum which is 1 of the few points against you wis.

what do you think of her saying that we were not nked despite us hammering both scum lynches and me hard fosing 1 who was xkilled? you are strangely quiet about that.

[Pirate Ika]

answer: you're scum

Why the fuck would Titus-scum fakeclaim results when it ends in her being lynched when discovered?

she fakeclaimed a tracker result on the fbi agent cos she was convinced they were they sk. they were lynched for it, flipped fbi agent then she was lynched d3 and flipped scum. she is derp regardless of her alignment and I think it is pretty obs the only pple who want to keep her around are scum which is 1 of the few points against you wis.

what do you think of her saying that we were not nked despite us hammering both scum lynches and me hard fosing 1 who was xkilled? you are strangely quiet about that.

* re fakeclai - you cld be any1

[Nobody Special]

If Wisdom believes I am sane, Shos is confscum.

There's no role change so no secret miller.

He is wrong on him being conftown though but a second gf is remote.

The bolded is not internally consistent.

Secret miller would be a withheld role item from the player,

which is forbidden under the "no role change".

We were told about our sanities being questionable, but not miller status... I do not buy it.

Gonna need a citation for this.

Waiting.....

[Nobody Special]

I haven't the time to do an unoffical VC. I'm going to vote shos. I don't know how close to lynch he is. I'll vote in about 3-4 hours, and entertain arguments until then.

VOTE: shos


L-1, someone

please

hammer.