Mini 1646: Quil's Smalltown (Game over!)

[Viomi]

Happy birthday, DeasVail!

We have a little more than two days til deadline. I don't like that Viomi came into the game and ISO'd only her predecessor and me. I feel like this shows a premeditated agenda without real curiosity or interest in scumhunting from an unbiased point of view.

This push also doesn't make sense given that Viomi is now voting Anti, who would inherit my role if I were lynched.

To me, it looks like she doesn't want my role in the game at all.

Wait why'd he inherit your role if you were lynched? What?

[xRECKONERx]

Reck you scum bro?

yee

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: viomi

Reck I suggest copping anti

i suggest

maybe

[Viomi]

Happy birthday, DeasVail!

We have a little more than two days til deadline. I don't like that Viomi came into the game and ISO'd only her predecessor and me. I feel like this shows a premeditated agenda without real curiosity or interest in scumhunting from an unbiased point of view.

This push also doesn't make sense given that Viomi is now voting Anti, who would inherit my role if I were lynched.

To me, it looks like she doesn't want my role in the game at all.

Wait why'd he inherit your role if you were lynched? What?

He'd inherit /anyone's/ role if they died... (which by the way makes it very bad for you to lynch Aronis today because then Universal Backup will gain that role)

[Viomi]

Your logic here, if I'm following correctly BooKitty, is:

I want to lynch Antihero for being scummy, who would inherit the first person to die's role.
To you, that means I'm trying to stop him from getting your role in specific... Why? Why would I think that if anti didn't get lynched, you wouldn't? You're not the one at L-1 last I checked :L

Why are you so obsessed with the game and all of your tells revolving around your role being able or unable to do stuff?

[farside22]

Vio: I don't recall anything from anti.

Vote: boo

[Viomi]

Oh fuck /yeah/

Sorry Shiidaji

VOTE: BooKitty

[Bookitty]

I'm reading your thought process like this based on your actions so far:

1. Upon your arrival to the thread, you read your predecessor's ISO to see if you think he was scummy. You do, so you push immediately for the lynch of one of two investigative roles in the game.

2. No one really is on board with your plan, so your next move is to go for the universal backup role. Did you know he was the universal backup? It's hard to tell with your shock and surprise that he would inherit my role if I were lynched today.

If you think that I am the scummiest (something you've repeatedly said -- I comprised your entire scumteam, remember) then why would you want my investigative role given to the person you think is the second scummiest? Yet that's certainly the result that would occur if you had gotten your way, right?

[Aronis]

Prod dodge. I might post something tonight.

[Viomi]

I'm reading your thought process like this based on your actions so far:

1. Upon your arrival to the thread, you read your predecessor's ISO to see if you think he was scummy. You do, so you push immediately for the lynch of one of two investigative roles in the game.

2. No one really is on board with your plan, so your next move is to go for the universal backup role. Did you know he was the universal backup? It's hard to tell with your shock and surprise that he would inherit my role if I were lynched today.

If you think that I am the scummiest (something you've repeatedly said -- I comprised your entire scumteam, remember) then why would you want my investigative role given to the person you think is the second scummiest? Yet that's certainly the result that would occur if you had gotten your way, right?

No, again I'm having trouble with keeping track of all the different roles as I'm not used to doing so, so I did not realize he was the Universal Backup until you said something.

And I was looking at my predecessor's ISO and trying to follow his thought process- since he's the only confirmed town to me besides myself, and therefore the most trustworthy- and the main thing that made sense was that he wanted you lynched. So I looked at you to see his reasons for wanting you lynched as part of my joining the game, saw how scummy you are, and placed my vote and made a case accordingly before reading the thread. Once I read the thread, I decided I definitely still think you're the scummiest (although anti comes pretty close)

BTW guys; Before one of you does something dumb like hammer me, we should probably discuss night actions to some extent, yeah? We could get some confirms possibly if we play our hands right (or at least figure out who isn't buddies for some later confirms once one of them dies.. For instance, we have four people play actions on eachother that we can detect, and if all four of them do it and there's a kill, they're not all necessarily confirmed but we know none of those 4 are partners together.)

EDIT: Oh yay, Aronis is back!
Please do post something ASAP, we are reaching deadline.

[Bookitty]

@Farside: You are on fair warning; unless you are scum, you owe me cookies at the end of this game. I WILL COLLECT.

[Viomi]

Now that I know we have a Universal Backup, the one thing making me apprehensive about lynching you is gone.

My vote isn't moving unless we really need a hammer on anti or some scumbitch

[Bookitty]

Now that I know we have a Universal Backup, the one thing making me apprehensive about lynching you is gone.

You get that this doesn't make sense? You were JUST voting the Universal Backup. That means you thought he was scum. So tomorrow you would be trying to lynch the investigative role yet again, right?

@Anyone: Is it important to anyone but Viomi that I keep answering every one of these accusations? I can continue if it's helping anyone, but I feel like I'm just helping her clutter the thread.

@Farside: Why did you think that scum-Pine was going to steal your role?

[Viomi]

Now that I know we have a Universal Backup, the one thing making me apprehensive about lynching you is gone.

You get that this doesn't make sense? You were JUST voting the Universal Backup. That means you thought he was scum. So tomorrow you would be trying to lynch the investigative role yet again, right?

@Anyone: Is it important to anyone but Viomi that I keep answering every one of these accusations? I can continue if it's helping anyone, but I feel like I'm just helping her clutter the thread.

@Farside: Why did you think that scum-Pine was going to steal your role?

I know you don't like answering questions as you've shown, but that's okay.

Oh look, rhetorical questions you were getting mad at me for! I'm going to actually answer these though because unlike you, I like information!

It does make sense. I think he's scum and do indeed want him lynched... But if we can get him to investigate someone tonight, splendid! And if we find out he lied, then he's confirmed scum! Otherwise, we get free investigations! Woop woop!

[Bookitty]

I know you don't like answering questions as you've shown, but that's okay.

Oh look, rhetorical questions you were getting mad at me for! I'm going to actually answer these though because unlike you, I like information!

None of my questions were rhetorical that I recall. I believe I have answered every one of your questions so far, but it looks to me as if there is no end in sight. Spamming the thread helps no one, so I'm done with this particular back-and-forth, Viomi.

[Viomi]

You get that this doesn't make sense?

Perhaps rhetorical is the wrong word.

Your answer here:

2. Presenting various possibilities that contradict each other does not in itself constitute contradicting oneself. If you want to link me up to post numbers that you think include contradictions, I'll look at it more closely.

Was very inadequate. You said trying to prove alignment on just his role was speculation and WIFOM, and then tried pushing it as the main reason behind your case. Is this not contradictory, unless you believe WIFOM isn't a logical fallacy and is somehow a good thing?

Your answer to me asking about your contradiction there TWICE was 1. Nothing and 2. The above quote... After I had already quoted and pointed out exactly where you contradicted yourself (TWICE), you ask for me to link you to the post numbers. Have you considered that perhaps the reason I keep asking these 'endless' questions is because

you're not giving satisfactory answers at all?

[Flubbernugget]

Bookitty id give you brownie points for cutting her off

[DeasVail]

Happy birthday, DeasVail!

We have a little more than two days til deadline. I don't like that Viomi came into the game and ISO'd only her predecessor and me. I feel like this shows a premeditated agenda without real curiosity or interest in scumhunting from an unbiased point of view.

This push also doesn't make sense given that Viomi is now voting Anti, who would inherit my role if I were lynched.

To me, it looks like she doesn't want my role in the game at all.

Thanks Bookitty.

I agree with what you've said in this post, but my feelings of conflict are from other things I find really weird from scum about the slot. I don't really expect people to wait for me to sort out my complicated feelings though, and am not going to mind terribly if Viomi is lynched before I decide exactly what I'd want to do with her, but I will try to make a decision when I get home today. There is the temptation just to forget all cautiousness for a moment and hammer her though!

[Viomi]

Bookitty id give you brownie points for cutting her off

Shut up you useless piece of shit
(See my sig)

Happy birthday, DeasVail!

We have a little more than two days til deadline. I don't like that Viomi came into the game and ISO'd only her predecessor and me. I feel like this shows a premeditated agenda without real curiosity or interest in scumhunting from an unbiased point of view.

This push also doesn't make sense given that Viomi is now voting Anti, who would inherit my role if I were lynched.

To me, it looks like she doesn't want my role in the game at all.

Thanks Bookitty.

I agree with what you've said in this post, but my feelings of conflict are from other things I find really weird from scum about the slot. I don't really expect people to wait for me to sort out my complicated feelings though, and am not going to mind terribly if Viomi is lynched before I decide exactly what I'd want to do with her, but I will try to make a decision when I get home today. There is the temptation just to forget all cautiousness for a moment and hammer her though!

Yes,let's not use our heads and just hammer away before we have a chance to discuss night actions!

[Aronis]

Since DeasVail is like officially the best mafia player now, I think I might just start sheeping him.

[Viomi]

Since DeasVail is like officially the best mafia player now, I think I might just start sheeping him.

Good idea, I trust DeasVail's vote more than I trust yours.

[BBmolla]

Reading now fellas.

[BBmolla]

@Mod: Could the archivist see scum visit their nightkill and night action target? Or does archivist only see role actions?

[BBmolla]

@mod: If I steal someone's role, does their action succeed that night?

[BBmolla]

Reck I'm gonna lynch you tomorrow dood