trying to talk to you reasonably helps no one either but hey what do we know you're titus and you're our queen
ok. i'll refrain from making a comment about hypocrisy at this time
In post 5829, Titus wrote:Blizzard claiming a guilty on shos and pursuing it makes zero sense as the last Hippie scum if he did not actually believe shos was scum.
shos and pv (who had massive amounts of towncred) claimed guilties on blizzard
it was either let himself get lynched and then wait for wisdom to get lynched or attempt to take out shos then and there with a fake guilty
not to mention it still makes absolutely zero sense for anyone to frame shos as scum on night 2. also there's how you're proposing there's a 3 man communist team with both a framer and tailor (considering your suspicion on ika after copping them night 4). because yes titus those are different action types.
In post 5829, Titus wrote:Then there's a communist miller with no communist faction, that seems unlikely.
we'll cover this again in a bit.
In post 5829, Titus wrote:Add in the three of you essentially win the game if we are wrong today...
we'll cover this in a bit.
In post 5829, Titus wrote:I have said the communist team a few times now. I have never said Ank is a commie.
pirate ika, muffin, and fin3 are your commies, i remember.
i think you fail to realize that the only one fearmongering is you. you are fearmongering over the 0% chance of us three being a scumteam and going against all evidence pointing to the contrary.
this is the setup you propose.
2. Pirate Ika (pirate mollie+ika)
5. Muffin
6. Frightened inmate number3
1. theelkspeaks
4. Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies+Jingle)
7. Ankamius
3. Nobody Special
8. Titus
notice how i had to try and fucking pick a random color that wasn't red orange green blue or purple for communists because while we have
to indicate sk color all we have for communists is
which even points to the already-unlikely scenario of there being an sk but no communists as more likely than your scenario.
so back to this.
2. Pirate Ika (pirate mollie+ika)
5. Muffin
6. Frightened inmate number3
1. theelkspeaks
4. Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies+Jingle)
7. Ankamius
3. Nobody Special
8. Titus
so first off i'm glad to see that you finally accept blizzard wasn't lying about ns being inno and that he's town. i'm proud. doesn't fucking matter if he was tailored n1, in any scenario ns is town.
if this is the case there is no fucking way you expect all that scum to follow the plans of a town insane cop. to follow your plans. i just. don't understand.
even in your fantasy world that postulates lynching me will flip a communist, there is no way scum is going to agree to murder and lynch each other so that you still have a chance to win.
in your scenario and you lynch me - there's still the commie, sk, dictator, and hippie kills all floating around. 4 scumkills and 2 town left. will they all agree with the plan to shoot each other so that town can win? fuck no. don't forget ank and ika are bulletproof. so if muffin and bear and elk die and town miraculously escapes unharmed, it's 1/1/2, no lynch, kill the town and force a tie/gamble on x-shot vests. no town win.
if muffin and only one of bear and elk die, you can agree to team up with them to lynch a bp scum, then go into night 1/1/2, in which case bp scum shoots town and it'll most likely become a 1/1/1 kingmaker. no town win.
alternative: in your scenario, the correct play is to remove ankamius, so as to remove a potential sk and either way completely remove a kill from the equation to eliminate that huge extra risk. then you get bear and elk to shoot me and muffin, hoping they get lucky with a roleblock on us just for extra points if you want, and since that guarantees two of three commies are dead by night anyway we'd have to shoot one of bear/elk to make it 1/1/2, in which case you'd lynch bp-ika and lose to bear or no lynch and repeat/force scum to kill town and lose to one of them. no town win.
in summary titus, in your proposed setup town has already lost, because you are never going to be able to count on 6 scum to comply with 1 town's demands (while the other 1 town sits in the corner wondering if that titus girl claimed something or not, who knows, it's okay ns none of us know what's going on with titus either it's not just you).
you can count on bear to say they like your plan. because you're giving them an out and you're literally the only one right now who they think is dumb enough to let them live.
also as for something i saw about you saying ika muffin and i are fighting this too hard so you must be right, i suggest you take a chance to... i don't know, become a little kid and grow up and learn how humans work all over again. because news flash, people tend to argue when someone says something wrong about them.
it's just. so fucking simple.
and maybe this argument is making me go crazy but i am wondering why if you think there are 3 communists left you want to lynch the towniest of those possible communists. the one that claimed vig on aa9, dgb, klingon, and guille, who were all near-universal scumreads. who we could have left to lynch instead. who was in a neighborhood...
this gets its own paragraph. not only did we have a daytalk neighborhood of cop, miller, vig, and doc, which makes perfect sense setup design wise, but in your scenario...
in your scenario, the neighborhood is
town cop
town doc
communist [framer/tailor/?]
communist [framer/tailor/?]
the cop claimed day 1. the doc claimed day 1.
i am claiming the aa9 "shot" line of kills, so therefore if you think we are communists these must be our kills.
why did we not just take out the doc early on? we could have just said scum must have killed him because bulba is a threat, which he is.
why did we choose to shoot klingon over bulba on night 3, when shos was already dead?
just why would we shoot lynchable universal scumreads
why
this post is already too long and i have spent too much time rehashing a lot of the same points that you either refuse to listen to or when you do listen throw occam's razor out the window and make up a shitload of implausible theories about roles that don't exist just to mold the world to your narrow viewpoint that mostly consists of your irrational nightmares.
this is unhealthy for me. i should not have to waste this much time or effort trying to convince you not to lynch confscum, or at the very least lynch a bulletproof sk over crosskillable groupscum and then even over bulletproof groupscum. i still don't understand why if ika and muffin and i must all be communists to you you're not lynching the bulletproof communist instead.
impossibear wants you to lynch me because they recognize i'm actually a fucking vig and agreeing to your insanity not only removes a town player that wants to lynch them but also a town vig that wants to shoot them so they'd have to waste their rb on me if neither of us got lynch.
i am spending too much energy again. note to self, next time before you let titus anger you into writing anything else over 4 lines, just replace out.
pedit hey titus i have a problem with the plan because i know there's a chance i'm town's only vig, and by lynching me you're leaving a town win in the hands of claimed scum, likely scum, and possible bulletproof sk. and i want to guarantee we go into night 1/6 or 1/1/5, not 1/1/5 (bear rbs ank, titus and ns can die, and we only win if we're sure on elk being dictator which i'm not willing to risk a lynch on) 1/1/1/4 (town loses no matter what because there's a bulletproof sk)
