Micro 449: One Night Ultimate Werewolf (Game Over!)

[snscompt1]

Im sorry. Sort of. That was rude. Im tired.

Yes, its possible to get caught when lying. Obviously. If the Seer claims two roles from the center that two townies have, obviously more people will believe the two rather than one. Especially if the seer has a counterclaim.

One of the Seers is scum. Obviously. There can be at most 1. Both Seers have claimed to seen a Villager in the middle. since there are three villager claims and only three villagers in the game max, one is lying or both seers are scum. The later is not true for many reasons.Should be clear.

As for the wifom. Thats what half this game is. No joke. The blind switching is screwy. Some games its actually impossible to logically figure out who is scum.

[ika]

i got lost trying to read the wifom built up....

[snscompt1]

Vote Fuzzy and we win.

[ActionDan]

Vonflare really should post though at the least

[vonflare]

I'm really sorry. Catching up tomorrow.

Sorry to do this to you guys.

[fuzzybutternut]

One of the Seers is scum. Obviously. There can be at most 1.

One seer is scum, guaranteed, but you want to lynch someone who

didn't

claim Seer?

What sense does that make? Honestly. 3 villagers were claimed. Three villagers exist. What's so hard to believe there?

[snscompt1]

lol. Someone else try explaining. He doesnt get this game. Or hes scum. I think hes scum.

I like how he's super defensive. Hes trying to get us to lynch one of the claimed Seers. Odds are, the claimed Seer(Not Mafia) is a minion. If we kill the minion, we lose.

Both Seers claimed to see a Villager in the middle. Ergo, only 2 Villagers exist in the game. Three people claimed Villager.

Not Mafia is scum. Period. 100% from my pov. Given that and actiondans claim, how ika is a villager, that leaves fuzzy and vonflare as the remaining possible scum.

Given Not Mafia is scum, he started off the popcorn by letting Vonflare go first.
Regardless if he is the minion or werewolf, having your partner claim first is bad. its easier to be caught and you can get counterclaimed easier.
its very possible Im wrong and vonflare is scum. This is where the game is hard to figure out. Complete wifom.

so since NM picked Vonflare to go first, odds are he isnt the partner. Therefore fuzzy is left.

[ActionDan]

Given Not Mafia is scum, he started off the popcorn by letting Vonflare go first.

Opposite order but the logic holds still.

I'm like 100% convinced Fuzzy is scum from that last post.

The real question is if it's so bad of a post that he's the minion attempting to seal the deal.

That frightens me

[Not_Mafia]

Pretty sure fuzzy is werewolf, fuzzy is being unintentionally scummy, whereas sns' RQS and "I am confirmed seer" looks more like conciously scummy minion behaviour

[snscompt1]

Totally fine with lynching Fuzzy. NM is just playing it cool.

[vonflare]

im going to read through the entire thread and post what comes to mind. wall of text incoming.

[vonflare]

First, I want to apologise to everyone, especially Thesp. I feel bad about bieng V/LA recently, and I'm sorry.

POST 21:

sns agrees with massclaim, which is only pro-town I believe.

28:

N_M claims seer

30:

sns claims seer. at this point, with only myself and a seer claimed, if I was scum I would claim a different role. I'm inclined to believe sns at this point.

45:

vet claims trouble.

55:

N_M says 'So I think looking at 2 cards in the middle would be better, thoughts?'

like hes trying to gauge public opinion on the best course of action in a decision he already took. Like hes trying to tailor his response to conform.

56:

but then sns says 'NM, do you mean that you started as the Seer? Or were you stating that you are NOW the Seer?'

That dosent sound like something someone whos totally confident in N_M lying would say.

63:

ADan says he lied about his role and hes the robber. I don't see the point in that...

65/66:

sns and N_M accuse each other of being a minion.

69:

sns says he saw villager and hunter in the middle. He says this AFTER dan unclaims hunter. if there was daychat, I'd instantly say those two are buddies. but since there isnt, I'm inclined to believe him.

72:

sns has a good point. N_M (if scum) may have been robbed, and is now town-aligned.

74:

This confirms dan and sns arent partners. '[dan] sided with me because he knew that I caught him lying. Now whether he is still town has yet to be decided.'

79:

dan confirms ika as town. so now we can group ika and dan in the same alignment. either both or niether are town.

82:

a 'wut the heck' moment. 'I swaped ActionDan and ika. So if ActionDan is telling the truth about robbing ika, they are back to their original cards.'

what are the odds.

85:

vet: town.
Ika/dan: both are town or both are warewolves. prob the former

89:
throws a wrench in the works. it might be bluffing, but that means fuzzy might be town and N_M is a minion.

BUT that means that N_M is wrong, and there is no space for a villager, wich would make it best to vote fuzzy.

BUT that means N_M might be a minion, and .... wait.... if fluffy is a warewolf we satill win...

nvm fluffy is the best vote at the time of this post.

95:

makes sense.

100:

this makes perfect sense and I'm convinced sns is town and fuzzy is scum.

FUZZY:

There are a max 3 villagers in the game. sns says his magical seer powers have revealed to him that the universe has decreed that there are only 2 villagers in THIS PARTICULAR GAME. therefore, one of the villagers is lying. its not ika, who was confirmed by dan (...?) and its not me.

therefore, fuzzy and N_M are scum.

on the other hand, it could be sns / dan / ika, but that much less likely.

I'm voting N_M or fuzzy.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Nightfall

I'm down to vote fuzzy at this point and hope for the best

[snscompt1]

HURT: Fuzzybutternut

Random Hurting Stage go!

Huh. Not sure what to make of this. Weird.

[vonflare]

HURT: Fuzzybutternut

Random Hurting Stage go!

Huh. Not sure what to make of this. Weird.

Classic fake vote bus thingy.

[snscompt1]

Doesn't seem like NM though. But ah well. That's where we get into WIFOM and such. Either we vote Fuzzy and win or we vote Fuzzy and lose. *shrug*

[vettrock]

I am interested in hearing what NM has to say about the game since he is obviously the opposite alignment of sns.

[ika]

so is there anything i really need to do besides vote fuzzy? from what i've read i became confirmed town by my claim and bunch of weird wifom gimmicks

[Not_Mafia]

I am interested in hearing what NM has to say about the game since he is obviously the opposite alignment of sns.

sns minion fuzzy wolf

[vettrock]

I am interested in hearing what NM has to say about the game since he is obviously the opposite alignment of sns.

sns minion fuzzy wolf

Why would sns as minion be telling everyone to vote fuzzy? That doesn't pass the common sense test.

[Not_Mafia]

WIFOM. Do you have an actual reason to question the fuzzy lynch? It seems like everyone else is comfortable with it

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't understand how you people are coming to the conclusion that I'm scum based off a guess by someone who we don't even know is town and are actually trying to advocate my lynch for no reason whatsoever. Like...if you want to lynch me, fine. Lose the game. But at least have some sort of basis behind your vote. Dont just sheep someone randomly because they're trying to push a lynch without reason.

[snscompt1]

wifom. Thats how one night ultimate werewolf works at this stage.

[vonflare]

I've been thinking.

We should vote for NM.

[Thesp]

Official Vote Count

Nightfall

(4): ika, snscompt1, Not_Mafia, ActionDan

Not Voting

(3): vonflare, vettrock, fuzzybutternut

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-03-12 10:00:00)