Touhou UPick 3 - [Game Over]

[ActionDan]

It's called the scum QT, clearly

[ooba]

I neighborized Ooba N1. Still happy with my townread on him and oppose any lynch on him.

I can confirm this.

I *really* do not want to claim today.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm going to go with Ooba/Dan today, pending further information re: Katsuki.

I note that Ooba appears to have been active elsewhere and appears to be deliberately stalling/avoiding discussion here. This little post tells us nothing of value.

This aside, Ank is quickly rising as my preferred third lynch.

Ank
1617
blah blah blah

The problem is that you listed Dan as 'scum'. Not 'possible scum' or 'potential scum' or even 'very likely scum'. You said

scum

in the same post where you listed Rylai as alignment indicated by Dan's flip. If you know he is scum then you should damn well list Rylai as scum in your list, and you didn't do it, so your reads are faked. The end.

Malakittens is town because of neighborhood interactions.

Malakittens is calling you scum because of those exact same interactions.

Do you agree with her that you are scum? Why? Why not?

If you believe this is true, then there's nothing that would prove it to be false, in which case there's no real point to dwell on it.

Don't play coy. You brought the masons comment up because you were asked you why you didn't have confirmed town in the confirmed town slot.
You also aren't doing anything to put your supposed scum reads - Katsuki, Rylai, or myself - up on the block and are purely defending your slot.

Passive-aggressive without any justification for why I'm wrong.

You said this:

Then either scum have more power during the day (likely; virtually proven with AD scumflip), their powers during the night are mostly weak (least likely), or they have powers that aren't very indicative of scum usage (possible).

How was this indicative of scum anybody? What were you trying to achieve here? It looks like fake content and that's why I called you on it.

That's the point. I never thought Drezi was scum.

You were around at phase end and could easily have addressed your vote until after hammer, but you declined to do so. I can't help but take a negative view of that. Your actual post after hammer was:

I have no regrets whatsoever even with a scumflip.

That statement could easily have come from scum, so, can you explain more about it please?

Like I said in my last post, I have a role that is wasted if I get shot.

That is not what you said.
What you said was:

c. Getting shot is a waste of my role. I will die if shot, but it's not productive for either alignment to.

About the only way I could see this to be true is if you are a tree stump. We already have one of those.
Why is it not productive for scum to shoot you, given that their objective is to kill a whole bunch of us, and that you are claiming to be one of us?

Doesn't change the fact that it's playstyle over alignment.

If you're playstyle is scummy enough to get you lynched, you might want to reflect on that for future games.

[Sky_Paladin]

your vote before hammer,

sighduck.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ooba

I *really* do not want to claim today.

You should have claimed day 1

. It is now day 3 and you are very likely to be lynched.
Can you give us any information that can rule you out for a lynch?

[ActionDan]

If you are being voted by Sakura Hana, you may not declare any

Day-use

spellcards.

I can potentially make this negative utility. Does that count?

This makes sense now.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hey ank
Does any of your spellcard disabled in LYLO?

[ActionDan]

Guys why not kill off 2 unknowns and keep the (handsome) devil you know?

Is that too much to ask?

[GuyInFreezer]

Only if you engage and win the rap battle with muffin

[pieguyn]

I got my results back and Mala really does have no cards left. I'm inclined to think that this means town because just a card toss doesn't seem like very much as a scum role? I guess there could've been something used on night 1 but meh.

this isn't a good reason for reading Mala as town (and I'm not confbiasing up the ass this time). it's easily possible she has a scum role that has multiple _abilities_, but only 1 card.

[pieguyn]

I'm rereading ooba and I'm actually really not happy with ooba's posts. I need to go back and reread D1 sometime later bc I'm pretty sure Sakura had a scum read on him for the majority of D1.

I still don't like Mala. the thing that bugs me about her is that she has continued to do basically nothing this game - she's here now, but is not scum hunting as opposed to spending all her time raging at misshooting thdg. I think it looks more like coasting scum in that she did nothing town-motivated, then when she gets called on it she attempts to ATE all over the place to get out of it instead of stepping her game up. it also sucks that she didn't adequately explain either the Dan or Sakura reads bc we have no way of knowing whether the reasoning makes sense or if she's just scum defending a partner, but I don't like how she calls Sakura for "the flow of her posts" given that's a large majority of where my scum read on her came from.

also, I think her vig soft (when she wasn't remotely a vig) was intended to get everyone to read her as town, in turn allowing her to coast further, but this is speculation

[pieguyn]

I'm meh on Katsuki. I don't like that after Sakura scum flip he continued railing on Sky without any hint of reevaluation. besides that, I haven't had a problem with anything he did. can someone who's scum reading Katsuki walk me through it (or link if I missed it)?

[ActionDan]

Do you ever get the feeling,
That scum are bound to lose?
Do you ever blame the setup,
That made you sing the blues?

Well for a fact I know this,
We have to prolong the fight
Because it just happens that,
Town isn't quite right!

With their spellcards and vote kinks,
Vigs cops masons and hajinks
Suppositions
Inquisitions
And all around dayplay
Town is still facing doomsday!

Muffin will sit aloft
And serve as scribe
To watch as town bleeds out
From his diatribes

The two lilies will stumble
With their fairy brains
Never revealing
Thdgs true name

SB may have
Perpetual day cards,
But nows a good time as any
To join the graveyard

Oh I can picture it now,
A great scum victory
Made possible by
Shikieiki!

[ActionDan]

The answer is a couple of fairies

[ActionDan]

I'm coming for you

[thdgkdms]

I need to go back and reread D1 sometime later bc I'm pretty sure Sakura had a scum read on him for the majority of D1.

Lily wants to say that Lily thinks that this is false!
Lily notes that Sakura Hana's suspicion of Serene Forest began in 458 where she sheeps Sky Paladin and Lily also notes that Sakura Hana drops her suspicion of Serene Forest in 530 after Serene Forest posted a few times.
Lily sees that Sakura Hana also voted for Serene Forest later in 597 but Lily wants to say that this was during the time that Sakura Hana was rapidly switching her vote(s) around and Lily thinks that the votes Sakura Hana made during this time are almost meaningless.
Also, Lily forgot to do this yesterday.
VOTE: ooba

[thdgkdms]

Lily isn't afraid of any judge and Lily is sure that the other Lily isn't either!
Lily and Lily could never be guilty!

[Ankamius]

The problem is that you listed Dan as 'scum'. Not 'possible scum' or 'potential scum' or even 'very likely scum'. You said

scum

in the same post where you listed Rylai as alignment indicated by Dan's flip. If you know he is scum then you should damn well list Rylai as scum in your list, and you didn't do it, so your reads are faked. The end.

This is pure bullshit and you already know it just from how you worded this section. You're correct in that I didn't say it as 'possible scum', 'potential scum', or even 'very likely scum.' You might also notice that I didn't put 'confirmed scum' or any other variant either.

You're grasping at straws and the fact that you're trying to force the engagement shut directly after doing it is really slimy.

Malakittens is town because of neighborhood interactions.

Malakittens is calling you scum because of those exact same interactions.

Do you agree with her that you are scum? Why? Why not?

This is a false question. Thinking someone is town from interactions is completely different from agreeing with them. I think Malakittens is wrong (beyond what she was already wrong on), but I don't think the thought processes are scum-motivated.

The only thing that's really weird about her play is how she got to the conclusion that there has to be a scum in our neighborhood, but it doesn't translate very strongly to scum behavior.

If you believe this is true, then there's nothing that would prove it to be false, in which case there's no real point to dwell on it.

Don't play coy. You brought the masons comment up because you were asked you why you didn't have confirmed town in the confirmed town slot.
You also aren't doing anything to put your supposed scum reads - Katsuki, Rylai, or myself - up on the block and are purely defending your slot.

Yet you're the only person who I have an issue with a scumread of me on.

I can read people attacking me better than any other situation I end up in, and your attack pings harder every time you post about it.

Passive-aggressive without any justification for why I'm wrong.

You said this:

Then either scum have more power during the day (likely; virtually proven with AD scumflip), their powers during the night are mostly weak (least likely), or they have powers that aren't very indicative of scum usage (possible).

How was this indicative of scum anybody? What were you trying to achieve here? It looks like fake content and that's why I called you on it.

GIF was attacking my scumread on Rylai because of the global track card he played on D1. I was listing off reasons that would make it less harmful for scum to have it as one of their powers. How exactly is this fake content or fluff?

That's the point. I never thought Drezi was scum.

You were around at phase end and could easily have addressed your vote until after hammer, but you declined to do so. I can't help but take a negative view of that. Your actual post after hammer was:

I have no regrets whatsoever even with a scumflip.

That statement could easily have come from scum, so, can you explain more about it please?

We literally just went full circle.

Like I said in my last post, I have a role that is wasted if I get shot.

That is not what you said.
What you said was:

c. Getting shot is a waste of my role. I will die if shot, but it's not productive for either alignment to.

About the only way I could see this to be true is if you are a tree stump. We already have one of those.
Why is it not productive for scum to shoot you, given that their objective is to kill a whole bunch of us, and that you are claiming to be one of us?

How are those two statements you quoted any different?

This question doesn't make any sense. Scum

do

want to kill town, but they prioritize town that are the most likely to win town the game. Unless my reads happen to be spot on or they're wary of me suddenly slingshotting onto the right track, killing me is a waste of time for them.

And no, I'm not a tree stump.

Doesn't change the fact that it's playstyle over alignment.

If you're playstyle is scummy enough to get you lynched, you might want to reflect on that for future games.

This statement came out of nowhere too.

But either way, It's rare for me to get lynched as town. I'm at my strongest when being attacked, so getting a mislynch on me is a lot harder than it might look.

[Malakittens]

I got my results back and Mala really does have no cards left. I'm inclined to think that this means town because just a card toss doesn't seem like very much as a scum role? I guess there could've been something used on night 1 but meh.

Despite having Tuesdays off mostly I never feel like actually spending the day on mafia. I'll work something out tomorrow I guess.

I didn't target ny1 n1 and if I did I would have been globally tracked.

[Ankamius]

@Mod: Can you fix that quote tag please?

[ActionDan]

One of the people posting on this page is scum

[ActionDan]

I didn't target any1 n1 and if I did I would have been globally tracked.

fixed that for you

[ActionDan]

Hopefully there's a secret scum godsend, a secret event that rains down kills from the heavens, and I hope it kills off SB for me.

[SB]

dan why can't we be friends

[zMuffinMan]

Ooba

You can answer too

What's the neighbourhood called and what have you two talked about each night