New York 182 - Game Over

[The Bulge]

Votecount 1.2

Albert B. Rampage (0) -

Antihero (1) -

Varsoon

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (0) -

copper223 (1) -

Gorkington

elusive (1) -

Sakura Hana

Flames of Disaster (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (2) -

copper223, Albert B. Rampage

House (0) -

KittenLicks (0) -

Marquis (1) -

Seohyun

OkaPoka (0) -

Otolia (2) -

ZZZX, House

pisskop (0) -

Sakura Hana (0) -

Seohyun (0) -

SilverWolf (0) -

Thor665 (0) -

Varsoon (5) -

Boonskiies, Thor665, SilverWolf, Antihero, Marquis

ZZZX (2) -

KittenLicks, pisskop

Not Voting -

elusive, Flames of Disaster, Flubbernugget, OkaPoka, Otolia, TheFuzzylogic99

With 21 alive, it's 11 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-03-27 20:43:00) (March 27^th).

[Antihero]

oh wow look at how much that beefy, scum-driven varsoon wagon just started

FUCKING THRIVING

after the hated claim.

[pisskop]

Wat?
Who is scum on it?

[Thor665]

lynching marquis is always for the greater good of the world
there's no negatives
because i said so
etc

Describe the basis of the policy lynch in order to justify its consideration?
We're past the point of saying "because" unless you're just that bad at describing your reasoning...which is okay, tell me if it's so in order that I may add you to my "acceptable lynch" list.

Varsoon is town. His wagon reeks badly of a scum run up. He has not even posted and he is about to get lynched. Unless someone can give me a darn good reason to scum read him than I am going to presume he is town . I would be shocked if there was not atleast a few scum on that wagon

Who do you see as the scum who leapt on that wagon.
Also - regardless of expecting scum to have helped the speed of that wagon...why do you think Varsoon is town simply due to its existence?

so yeah tell me why we are running up Vasoon before he even posts.

Because he had the most votes at the point I showed up and started drumming for support, aided by Sakura - I thought that was fairly evident from reading the thread. No?

My wagon's as good a place as any to start, though. I'm town.

Were you...planning to...y'know...start?
Or was the expectation that the rest of us would take you at your word and do the work for you?

So for all of you, Choof was most likely town, he did not get what was going on with the flash train on Varsoon and Thor asking him why he was townreading a guy that hadn't posted yet, so he thought we were making a joke at his expense and mr. unpleasant here in the form Gorkinton confirmed it for him, plus I've seen his early town posting in a newbie and it's the same jokey/scummy but not really mix.

I actually guardedly buy into the idea that Choof was town.
I fail to see how your meta research remotely supports that conclusion though.
Clarify?

is varsoon scumsaucy outside the claim?
i dont see it.

Is he townish outside the claim?
I would submit his reaction to the wagon is arguably scummish - since he actually didn't scumhunt on the wagon which, when I'm town, would be the first thing I did to a speed wagon on me.
I'm leaving my vote on him for a reason.

Oh Thor in post #29, why do you ask Choof questions about his RVS vote on a player he knows from another game? Why? I would like to know you're reasoning behind that line of questioning that seems at best useless in the RVS stage especially towards a newbie. Do you usually choose what could be termed easy targets?

I honestly feel that my questions answer themselves - there was an available wagon on a player.
He intentionally avoided it.
I asked him questions to understand why he intentionally avoided it.
Make sense?

@Anti - I disagree with you that "Hated" is remotely on the same level of the example for changing the way voting works "Kingmaker". Do you honestly believe they are in the same level?

[Antihero]

@Anti - I disagree with you that "Hated" is remotely on the same level of the example for changing the way voting works "Kingmaker". Do you honestly believe they are in the same level?

in a large game, it isn't at the beginning, but that's not really the point as what people define as "major" is kind of arbitrary.

when the game gets down to a smaller size it DOES become important because it dictates the day lylo comes on. that's kind of a big thing.

[OkaPoka]

Im really sorry guys. Im in the mou tains internet is bad. Expext catchup and postong on sunday n

[Antihero]

Wat?
Who is scum on it?

i was being sarcastic in order to show how this narrative of "oh poor pitiful varsoon is such a victim" is ridiculous

[Marquis]

only 5 votes. really.

hated is not normal.

i don't really care what your read is on me

don't care what your anti read is tho he's town anyway

but it's not normal and the varsoon+ego is performing a scum fakeclaim gambit.

i've played enough normals and have talked enough with normal review group people that you can't possibly suggest i don't know what i'm talking about. anti's played way more and we're in agreement over this. not only is it not normal, but varsoon's just handwaved away my point that he just saw me do this and win as scum by saying "just read me for my play" which is a common as hell delaying tactic for scum caught in a bad lie.

[pisskop]

I'm not townreading him.
. In fact, I'm curious to see what content comes forth from him. He'll slip up more.

[pisskop]

Or once.

[Sakura Hana]

Despite fake claim, Thor also brings some good points about Varsoon not doing anything with the info that i missed.

Unvote
Vote: Varsoon

Still keeping a close eye on Elusive. Also i don't like the current votes on gork, one was made by omgusy arguments and the other was naked.

[Gorkington]

VOTE: varsoon
happy birthday.

[Gorkington]

abr vote is fine for now.

im gonna go get copper during the night and show him the true meaning of pain.

[Antihero]

i saw kittenlicks at the bottom of the page a while ago and i am now saddened that he did not see fit to grace us with his presence

[pisskop]

Too many dogs.

[Marquis]

since he actually didn't scumhunt on the wagon which, when I'm town, would be the first thing I did to a speed wagon on me.

to be fair he did scumhunt a bit

but only me and anti to discredit us when we called him out on it

[Thor665]

hated is NOT whitelisted and has NEVER been used in any normal setup before

For me, this is really kinda the kicker on the Varsoon question.

I'm starting to almost get uneasy with the level of love I'm getting from Sakura - other people pointed out most of what I said about Varsoon and somehow I get the nod? Either she's skimming others, or hard buddying me.

[Thor665]

Or both, I suppose.

[Thor665]

but only me and anti to discredit us when we called him out on it

He called me cute.
But, aw, you can't deny that grass is green, I suppose.

[Gorkington]

if it makes you feel better shes buddying me too.
just embrace it. friends are fun.

[Antihero]

SAKURA i am not getting the same buddying experience from you that thor is apparently getting please fix this

[Sakura Hana]

It was this:

Were you...planning to...y'know...start?
Or was the expectation that the rest of us would take you at your word and do the work for you?

If others mentioned it beforehand, then yeah i missed it.
The fakeclaim thing i was already leaning on for a while.

[Thor665]

@Gork - I am aware of that. But the buddying to me was stranger since she snubbed Anti in order to buddy me - if it was general friendliness why not 'atta bot Anti?
The buddying to you and me prior to that was more "meh".
Though, I suppose if Varsoon flips scum I can just wait to see if there's a second team or SK possibility and write her off for a while regardless - but I wanted the thought out there.

@Sakura - you missed it hard.

[Sakura Hana]

SAKURA i am not getting the same buddying experience from you that thor is apparently getting please fix this

Well EXCUSE me while i was hunting the people that i didnt like from the whole flashwagon situation first before I went over the whole "Varsoon is fake claiming" thing. You managed to convince me with #285

[Antihero]

itt i fail hard at sarcasm