New York 182 - Game Over

[Flubbernugget]

What is the crap of these first pages
Someone is scummy for not doing anything about it

Sakura? Marquis?

Actually can I get the page numbers for this

[Sakura Hana]

Can't you just put it in a single post? otherwise people are just going to complain about #AmmountOfPages again

[droog]

I was as going to do some random RVS stuff just bc but its a bit late for that.

Varsoon is town. His wagon reeks badly of a scum run up.

He has not even posted and he is about to get lynched. Unless someone can give me a darn good reason to scum read him than I am going to presume he is town . I would be shocked if there was not atleast a few scum on that wagon

Funny how Choof asked about the Vasoon wagon and he got ran off. I really dont like this. I am pondering if this was townies acting badly or some type of scum tactic.

so yeah tell me why we are running up Vasoon before he even posts.

Nonsense
It's a day 1 early wagon

But what's more impirtant
While you complain about Carson being run up
You don't point at anyone in particular

So.... Who's scum for pushing this wagon?
Thor? Is Thor scum?
Do you suspect Thor for supporting sometilhignn you suspect?

[droog]

Can't you just put it in a single post? otherwise people are just going to complain about #AmmountOfPages again

"People are going to complain
To prove my point, waaaaaaaaaah"

People may complain about my post length instead

@ flubber
Pages 1-4, first half of 5
It's a circus of newbs doing nothing productive
Or even doing anything enjoyable
That none of the more experienced player
Try to put a stop to

[Antihero]

droog

you should

like

vote varsoon

[droog]

ITT :

• People starting a 22 player WAY TOO FAST.
  
• Crappy music.
  
• People not feeling the game enough that they feel the need to replace out. Meaning some of you are actually not welcomong towards other players during dawn. Really shitty attitude to have.
  
• A weird wagon

I don't think I've played with any of you (as BBmolla was replaced), I've been on site for a while but didn't play that much in the last years due to unforeseen medical issues. I had a bad reputation but that shouldn't be a problem anymore. I live in a civilized area of the world (ie: Paris, France) so I sleep when most of you are going crazy.

Right now I dig thor., the rest is meh. I won't vote because we have a dangerous wagon at L-2 that I don't caution right now.

Good luck & Have fun peeps.

PMuch all my RVS thoughts
Good posting good entrance

[Sakura Hana]

wth i've never complained about post speed.
I just don't want more people replacing out because "Game too fast"

[droog]

Wow hated? that's why you managed to become a magnet of votes! (joking i know what hated means).
I didn't know Hated/Loved were Normal roles.
As for everyone wondering about the wagon on Varsoon, and Thor's questioning that's Thor being Thor.
A Translation of Thor's intent for those that don't know him:
Thor likes early wagons run up as high as L-1 as soon as possible.
Such wagons can get interesting reactions from other people and the person being wagoned.
Since Varsoon should be a nullread at most for anyone and has the highest ammount of votes, he assumes the only reason someone wouldn't vote him is because of a townread or him, or a scumread on someone else. Hence his questioning.

Notice also that when i said i was townreading the people voting Varsoon some people jumped in to vote in.

Me harassing people not voting him as possible scum partners was waiting to see who and how would cave in to pressure. choof became a scumread out of that, Gorky whatchamacallit became a townread instead, antihero im still not sure on, but if he's town he'll become obvious eventually. I agree with pisskop about the replace out being null, but i just can't find it in me to think that his feelings about not knowing what was going on weren't genuine.
Anyway, copper decides to vote Varsoon and leave, not even thoughts, not even reaction about the wagon being formed, so i'm going to go there now.

Unvote
Vote: copper

PEd: Good morning anti

This is not something I noticed
Which people voted varsoon
Specifically after your town read comment

Do you think any of them did it
All because you gave varsoon voters town credit

[Sakura Hana]

Do you think any of them did it
All because you gave varsoon voters town credit

Did you even read the whole post. This and 747 are giving me strawman vibes.

[droog]

Good to know droog is town

Hey flubber
Long time no see
How's the degree going
Also why do you think this

[droog]

Haryana, please explain it again
If I got something wrong

[Flubbernugget]

Good to know droog is town

Hey flubber
Long time no see
How's the degree going
Also why do you think this

This game has a lot of opportunities for scum to hide, none of which I see you taking. I could scum read you if you'd like

[Sakura Hana]

Haryana, please explain it again
If I got something wrong

Re: 747
In Plants vs Zombies Marquis and I kept going at each other to the point that I hurt his feelings with my scum hunting, because he changed his claim like 3-4 times or smth like that, and i couldn't believe he was town anymore, and we kept arguing, in the end we were both town.
In the Open game i forgot the number he mentioned I also got emotional to the point of yelling at people for not seeing the scumread i was seeing and ended up replacing out in frustration.
He said due to these 2 games he wants to ignore me until he can form a solid read on me, but it's hard for me to form reads with people unless I interact with them, so his method is going to hurt me being able to read him, but I can understand why he'd want such space so I gave it to him.

Re: The reaction test.
The reaction test wasn't only the people that jumped in immediately (like silverwolf and anti), but also how i kept harassing people and seeing who would cave in due to pressure and vote Varsoon or who would vote them for legit reasons, this is what happened with choof which gave me the scumread of the slot, anti joined in an awkward way so i didn't know at the time if he was town or scum but due to reasons i explain later on + meta i formed a townread on him.

[Sakura Hana]

Also if you cant pronounce my name just call me Sakura or Hana, either way works.

[droog]

Thank you
That looks much townier
Than everything I've read from your slot before

I disagree ok the reaction test
I almost always jump on day 1 early wagons
Because it's useful
But then again maybe this is how they're useful to you

Why so you think floor
Is scum and not newb town?

[Sakura Hana]

Why so you think floor
Is scum and not newb town?

Can you rephrase that i think you typo'd something there.

[Sakura Hana]

Unless you mean choof instead of floor.

[droog]

*choof

[Sakura Hana]

I was wondering if you were talking about flubber or choof then flubber made no sense.
In either case he's newb yes, at the point i was thinking newb scum, then null, then newb scum again when he finally voted Varsoon.

[Sakura Hana]

So what do you think of choof and his replacement FuzzyLogic so far?

[Otolia]

This game has a lot of opportunities for scum to hide, none of which I see you taking. I could scum read you if you'd like

"Scum lurks in this town", "Scum could be voting or they could not be", "Some scum could pile on Varsoon" etc etc

Statistically speaking the bigger the game are, the less scummy actions have consequences (the risk of being lynched in D1 is 1 out of # of players). Thus your talk about bussing, hiding and everything else while valid in limited environment where mistakes are paid swiftly isn't in this game. As such, I'm flagging you for being very general with your statements for which you risk nothing and you look like scumhunting. As the game progress, I'm expecting to see more specific cases with more thought-out motives behind your accusations.

[Varsoon]

I have a ton of classes to do this week, like triple the amount of my normal work. If my activity drops low, that's why.

@Thor: I already answered your question. Thanks for proving you'd rather misrep and build my wagon than actually read.
To reiterate, I voted Anti for the -way- he pushed in on me. Marquis also pointed out that I was lying, but Anti had such awkward movement on Silverdog and then back to me while bringing a whole lot of LYING MUST EQUAL SCUM and being very loud and obstinate about it. It was the rhetoric of the push rather than the fact he was right to call me out.

@Varsoon
Who was talking with CoA when you tried to vig. shoot them, you or Metal?

Me. I was the one getting really into throwing down with sthar, iirc.


I'm still cool with Otolia.
I still thing my wagon is dumb.
I sure can't wait to be lynched and every town throws their hands up and instead of learning from it they all just go "WELL VARSOON WAS DUMB ONE NOT ME HUURRRR" and they lose the game because they're too bad to filter right. Like, it's okay if I suck or if I'm bad, but you all shouldn't be bad because of it.

[copper223]

Varsoon is the default lynch for the fakeclaim if we don't find a majority on someone else's case but I am reading it as a derp town move.

VOTE: Antihero
I agree with Varsoon, I think he is pushing on the players he thinks he can get away with.

[pisskop]

It looks a lot like a scum who doesnt want to give up what he thinks is low hanging fruit, frankly.

But we'll have plenty of time to get aquinted, I can see.

vote: Anti

[pisskop]

So people cant have real feels and channel them for a purpose?

Yup