Touhou UPick 3 - [Game Over]

[Ankamius]

I wouldn't mind one bit if SP was lynched, but that's because I've gotten really slimy vibes from every single engagement he's had with me the entire game, literally to the point that it makes sense for it to be playstyle over actual alignment. I won't shed tears with a Katsuki lynch, but I prefer Rylai because he's my biggest scumread and I think it would cause issues for scum over the widest range of people.

My reads have actually changed very little since day 3 began.

[Katsuki]

Where are you Katsuki? Talk about your scumreads?

I wish we had a QT, I hate discussing reads in game threads. Come to think of it, you know that from the last time we shared a QT where you called me out for only conversing there and not in the actual game thread.

Anyhow, what I'm going off thus far is as follows:

- CM's play from last day was dodgy as hell. If I remember correctly, she was ahppy with softly supporting whatever lynches town were interested in while keeping her options open.

- Kagami rubs me all sorts of wrong, and her posts thus far including her rush to have me dead reads to me as nervous.

- I forget what analysis I had on ank I need to revisit that.

- Shadoweh wanting me dead makes me sad.

What are you thinking ffery? I really want to get my thoughts and yours out there because there's a good chance that we both don't live til tomorrow, and if scum is Kagami I don't trust this town to not fuck it up.

[Ankamius]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

[Katsuki]

Katsuki, could you check/answer something for me? If you had jailkept me night 1, and Pie's spellcard is as described, would my name be red during day 2?

katsuki, can you answer this or provide specific enough wording that I can sort it out myself?

I have no idea what you're asking me here. Expand on it further

[Katsuki]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

My gut disagrees, and that's what won me my BEST TOWN scummies so (and what I rely on for scumhunting, which muffin hates because it contributes to my lack of read explanations).

[Kagami]

Katsuki, could you check/answer something for me? If you had jailkept me night 1, and Pie's spellcard is as described, would my name be red during day 2?

katsuki, can you answer this or provide specific enough wording that I can sort it out myself?

I have no idea what you're asking me here. Expand on it further

I guess to distill it:

Let's assume you do indeed have a jailkeep, and that the roleblock aspect of it is identical to whatever was used on ns to kill him. Firstly, does it block spellcard use, and if so, how is that block described? (Like, the card fails, the effect is canceled, the card isn't used altogether, etc.)

[Katsuki]

Oh I remember my Ank read now, which is not surprisingly useful.

What do you think of Ank, ffery?

[Katsuki]

Katsuki, could you check/answer something for me? If you had jailkept me night 1, and Pie's spellcard is as described, would my name be red during day 2?

katsuki, can you answer this or provide specific enough wording that I can sort it out myself?

I have no idea what you're asking me here. Expand on it further

I guess to distill it:

Let's assume you do indeed have a jailkeep, and that the roleblock aspect of it is identical to whatever was used on ns to kill him. Firstly, does it block spellcard use, and if so, how is that block described? (Like, the card fails, the effect is canceled, the card isn't used altogether, etc.)

Lemme clarify with FG but it doesn't state spellcard blockage explicitly, only action fails.

[fferyllt]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

How familiar with kagami are you?

I've played a few games with her, and there's stuff about her play that's bugging me this game.

[Kagami]

Ok, then it's probably useless info. I doubt it affects spellcards, which means that we don't get any additional insight on AD's N1 action.

[Kagami]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

How familiar with kagami are you?

I've played a few games with her, and there's stuff about her play that's bugging me this game.

You, specifically, are likely to be bugged further.

[Katsuki]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

How familiar with kagami are you?

I've played a few games with her, and there's stuff about her play that's bugging me this game.

You, specifically, are likely to be bugged further.

Then how do you expect me getting bugged too?

I didn't get bugged in Corpse Bride.

[Katsuki]

ffery talk to me I don't want to spend too much time on MS tonight I still have other stuff to do.

[fferyllt]

Kagami's town. That's a read I'd stake the game on.

How familiar with kagami are you?

I've played a few games with her, and there's stuff about her play that's bugging me this game.

You, specifically, are likely to be bugged further.

Why?

[Kagami]

Why?

Misread something important. I'm thinking through something atm; it would have been nice if katsuki's answer were more helpful.

[fferyllt]

ffery talk to me I don't want to spend too much time on MS tonight I still have other stuff to do.

katsuki I think you're probably getting lynched. :/

The only way I see that not happening is if gif, pie, maybe shadoweh and I wind up convinced someone else is scum and swing things elsewhere. In that event rylai will pretty much have to listen to town consensus. And if our consensus swings rylai's way, then who knows what he'll do.

I know that pieguy isn't confirmed town, but my sense is that we are an axis of sorts right now and the game spins around our thoughts today.

[Kagami]

Then how do you expect me getting bugged too?

I didn't get bugged in Corpse Bride.

I don't know what you're saying here, I was talking to ferry.

[Ankamius]

I played a single game with Kagami where I was scum and she was town, but she ended up getting mislynched D1.

A pretty significant part of my townread is from associations.

1. ActionDan goes ham on Kagami here
2. Serenes Forest handily agrees with ActionDan and puts both Kagami and Sakura as the only scumreads here

With how half-assed a lot of the bussing on D1 was (predominantly at the end of the day), it doesn't really sit right to me for two scum to start a wagon so handily on a partner. Sakura's response to it was to try to pry it apart, but that tells me that she was trying to distance Dan and SF from each other more than trying to stop that wagon from getting steam.

[Ankamius]

Unless pieguy's scumplay really improved since I last saw it, this isn't his scumgame. I'd be willing to stake the game on this too.

[zMuffinMan]

The only way I see that not happening is if gif, pie, maybe shadoweh and I wind up convinced someone else is scum and swing things elsewhere.

technically shadoweh could lynch someone by herself if she wanted

[Katsuki]

P-EDIT: @FFERY

If I'm getting lynched and you get NK'ed then this town needs a lot of help because SPderp is a trainwreck of a player, and if CM/Ank lynches don't end the game then you and I both know where this is going (not in a good direction).

Maybe it's because I know the game's not ending on my lynch like muffin seems to be thinking, and I trust our ability to figure this game out rather than leaving it in the hands of those who that may remain in end-game.

[Katsuki]

Then how do you expect me getting bugged too?

I didn't get bugged in Corpse Bride.

I don't know what you're saying here, I was talking to ferry.

She's not the only one bugged over your play.

[fferyllt]

The only way I see that not happening is if gif, pie, maybe shadoweh and I wind up convinced someone else is scum and swing things elsewhere.

technically shadoweh could lynch someone by herself if she wanted

True. which is the stars aligned part of all this. she'd have to do that when rylai isn't watching for it like a hawk.

[Shadoweh]

I can't lynch Rylai, he's immune to Day-cards.

[zMuffinMan]

o i thought it just gave you 5 votes