New York 182 - Game Over

[droog]

i guess my problem with the seoh wagon
is seoh hasnt really done anything
which isnt a problem at all

i was going to iso this kid and hes got 22 posts
a couple 'this person is town' type posts is about it

[droog]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

[Flubbernugget]

no your not

Oh hey.

Well I was. Im gonna get ya. Why cant you pop out something substantial?

Are you judging based on word count or something? I'm not going to throw a fit about people not lynching obvscum right now when people like having their time to talk. If anything it's giving me a bunch of townreads so there's that

[TheFuzzylogic99]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

wait two people flip scum and you are asking why we should pay attention to thier flips. This is scum hunting 101 imho . Why wouldnt we not pay attention to them????

[TheFuzzylogic99]

should say you are asking what about the flis we should pay attention to

[ika]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

wait two people flip scum and you are asking why we should pay attention to thier flips. This is scum hunting 101 imho . Why wouldnt we not pay attention to them????

I think the real question fuzzy, is why are you bitching about it when you could be doing it yourself? i already said i will do it on tuse

@thor i will get to your post later im tired and got work in a few hrs but im prob goign to make a big post and then drop the entire debical

[Thor665]

Thats effort yo.

So...you don't fake paranoia as scum then?

Probably not reading either. Oh well.

Replace out?

But I'm enjoying myself

I don't care. You aren't playing the game and thus making it not fun for anyone else.

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

So...answer my questions, please.
And, if your instinct here is to ask me to go back and quote them for you and waste 24 hours by doing so...dear gawd, just go iso me and pull them up.

This is the basic core reason that Thor starts saying that people play badly and suck.
Then people complain that Thor is mean.

@Fuzzy - your play is dreadful, and you should feel bad.

Here;
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6697958

Replace out, you useless sack?

@Ika - okay. Though I fail to see how it is a debacle. Like...at all.

[Gorkington]

Don't worry Thor.
I'm here to be useless too!


VOTE: Antihero
Choo choo.

[pisskop]

So...you don't fake paranoia as scum then?

Im better at controlling my paranoia as town now.

Is there a purpose to this?

[Marquis]

i remember someone asked me a question earlier? gtg but bring it up and i will show you just how much of a wonderful compliant person i am

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Vote Thor

So I am trying to figure out what link Sakura and FF have with other player instead of trying to guess who is scu by some innane comment someone makes and i am a bad player who should replace out. This is just horrible
If you think you can bully or intimidate me than you have something else coming. If you want to get rid of me than you will have to mislynch me or night kill me.

Oh and the poor me I am not a bully is just sad and unneeded/

It is a fact that that Sakura either pretty much ignore her buddies or soft defends them by her meta. Tell me why we should just ignore two confscum flip

[droog]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

wait two people flip scum and you are asking why we should pay attention to thier flips. This is scum hunting 101 imho . Why wouldnt we not pay attention to them????

yes i am
you want to pay attention to the scum flips?
give me a reason to pay attention

otherwise youre just complaining
that no one else is doing it for you
whats on your mind stranger

[Thor665]

So...you don't fake paranoia as scum then?

Im better at controlling my paranoia as town now.

So you're saying you're not particularly paranoid as town then?

Is there a purpose to this?

Yes - I was curious to hear your thoughts on your scum v. town game in the context of a Large because we're both playing a Large and it would behoove me to be able to spot inconsistencies in your play to help me surmise whether you are scum or town in alignment in this game.
Was that not clear?

So I am trying to figure out what link Sakura and FF have with other player instead of trying to guess who is scu by some innane comment someone makes and i am a bad player who should replace out. This is just horrible
If you think you can bully or intimidate me than you have something else coming. If you want to get rid of me than you will have to mislynch me or night kill me.

Oh and the poor me I am not a bully is just sad and unneeded/

So am I to understand that you do not intend to answer my questions, and also that me demanding that you do and accurately predicting a failing in your gameplay quality translates to me being mean and therefore scum?

It is a fact that that Sakura either pretty much ignore her buddies or soft defends them by her meta. Tell me why we should just ignore two confscum flip

Well, she didn't ignore me, and she didn't soft defend me - she buddied and hard defended me.
And I never said you should ignore scum flips.

[Gorkington]

Have you read who Thor is pushing today and why, Fuzzy? If so I don't think you'd be posturing about Thor 'ignoring the scumflips'. zzzzz.

[Gorkington]

FWIW I think fuzzy is town out of this.

[Thor665]

FWIW I think fuzzy is town out of this.

Why did this newb flail trigger that thought while previous ones did not?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

unvote thor

so yeah yelling at Thor and his nonsense made me feel better but is not helping the town.


Thinking if we lynch Vasoon he will flip SK.

[Gorkington]

@Fuzzy I think you're being a lazy by putting the onus on everyone else to analyze the flips as though nobody has done that. I don't think there's been in-depth hardcore ISO analysis put into the thread, but I think it's pretty shallow analysis on your end to imply that everyone is ignoring the flips.

P-EDIT: I feel like noobscum wouldn't charge headfirst at you in such a brazen way.

PP-EDIT: Okay I have no idea anymore. Going back to Fuzzy makes my head hurt mode.

[Gorkington]

I keep wanting to call fuzzy new and then I look at his join date and it makes me scratch my head :s

[Thor665]

unvote thor

so yeah yelling at Thor and his nonsense made me feel better but is not helping the town.


Thinking if we lynch Vasoon he will flip SK.

Are you dodging my questions still?

@Gork - his attack was quite shallow, and has now been confirmed as such. Eh - your value call there feels very preemptive even if you do take a headlong attack as a scumtell. Also, frankly, his attack had a built in dodge to it, so it was headlong in a somewhat sideways way to begin with. He's continuing with what he has been doing, which is being somewhat open, while flailing around with very unclear and shallow attacks. I find part of it townish, and part nullish to scum to newb. I am frustrated by a lot of the shallowness in the thread recently, frankly. And I openly admit to skimming and skipping posts in a Large, and so anyone getting *less* than me is really iffy in my book.

[Thor665]

I keep wanting to call fuzzy new and then I look at his join date and it makes me scratch my head :s

A quick look at his threads list will clarify that thought, methinks.
He is a very inconsistent player, with multiple month long gaps in his time.
Of course, I will admit, that I think Newbie is more of a state of mind than a state of length or games - so maybe my standard is different than yours. But a shallow meta dive should help clarify your thoughts for yourself one way or the other.

[Thor665]

@Gork - what is your take on the Elusive/ika thing.

I find the lie clear and the defense strange.

No one else is weighing in though, except for that odd attack on me based off Elusive scummily sheeping me - with no attack on Elsuive.
Which is sketchy as all get out in my opinion, but I will accept that I am in the middle o fit. I would like your thoughts on that.

@Marquis - as long as you're going to come back and answer a question from "someone" (which might be me and my question to you about Anti - why don't you also field the Thor v. Elusive+ika scrum.

[Thor665]

@Droog - actually, you should answer the Thor/Elusive/Ika thing too.
And also offer your thoughts on my Anti case.

I have found your posts okay - but you are assuredly sidelining yourself. Get in the mud and play.

[Gorkington]

If I'm totally honest, I just don't know if I can separate elusive's general playstyle from her literally changing the definition of the word 'case'. It certainly seems like the sort of thing at first glance that comes across as scum backtracking, but I'm not entirely sure if she's just being elusive or not if that makes sense?
Which I know is uncommitted, but I look at elusive and feel like I can toss a coin and be equally confident as to which side it lands on as I am what her alignment is atm.

Ika's defense of her reads genuine to me, despite the melodrama attached to it.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Iadmit my push for better analysis on the FFF/ Sakura flip is kinda bad. I pretty much want the town to look toward the flips more than they are doing. I like that Ika and Copper are doing that, I admit that maybe I am not doing that well and need to change my strategy up a bit more.

i would say she more soft defended you since she pretty much was like thats how Thor plays but never really pushed harder than that. Maybe I am looking at the whole thing wrong

As for the case against NotScience .... I was pretty much sheeping Monic device since I really agreed with his post and where it was coming from. He seemed to be right about the interaction.


Also Thor maybe it is me but you dont see to be pushing the Anti wagon with me....you seem pretty focused on me and Elusive than you are Anti.