Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[ChannelDelibird]

I think that's a hammer

Boon: vezok

since he's my actual towniest read, but I'm expecting to have to change this to actually get it done to deasvail or Tammy (I'd also definitely boon TSO if anyone else is thinking about it)

You don't want to wait until we know what the Boon is?

[Marquis]

Also, Marquis for Boon 2015!

[Marquis]

I think it's probably going to fit a theme with either the Bane or Choice, so my predictions are some sort of sign changer or a vest!

[Gammagooey]

I think that's a hammer

Boon: vezok

since he's my actual towniest read, but I'm expecting to have to change this to actually get it done to deasvail or Tammy (I'd also definitely boon TSO if anyone else is thinking about it)

You don't want to wait until we know what the Boon is?

it's theoretically possible that the boon itself will change who I want to get it

but barring people saying that 'Hey this is good for me because *mysterious role reasons*' I'd be pretty surprised if that were the case. (and I'd rather not go into the hole of giving people boons because rolezzzz unless it's clearly only useful for people with/without abilities already)

[Titus]

As I have said already, I want to see what the boon is. The mod shall tell us, if he can, shortly.

[Shadoweh]

Shadowehs policy lynch thing: it made me laugh and it sounds like something shadoweh would think of

My entire team thought of it when Lambda rolled scum with Katsuki and Who, policy scum on token lynches of 2015. It's actually kind of relieving they had to reroll so we can out loud talk about how awkward the token system really is.

Mastin: Swap into a vanilla game? Hell no.

You think Zar/Tammy is possible scum on scum? :V

Tammy

should

be the first person to tell you I'd be a fool

not

to consider it.

Do you have any reasons to suspect this based on reality rather then FUD paranoia?

Sort

-of.
Tammy could be scum.
Zar could be scum and has fairly decent chances of being scum.
I do not think their interactions are such where Tammy

must

be town if Zar is scum. I can, very easily, plausibly see this as scum-scum distancing. Do I think it is, no. Do I think it ISN'T, though, that is ALSO a no. It's a, "in the back of my mind" type thing, stronger than paranoia but weaker than actual proper suspicion, where I'll have my eye on it the entire time and will not pass judgement until I'm sure.

When I asked if this was based on something besides FUD paranoia I expected you to point out something about their exchanges you thought was fake, not respond with even more WIFOMing baseless paranoia. What about that looked like it was scum-scum distancing, did Tammy decide to scream at Empire for fun to talk to someone in another game and Zar thought that was just peachy while they giggled in the scum QT about starting a fight? Post something that isn't useless speculation.

[Titus]

TTH, come talk to us.

[Marquis]

Oh yeah! We have issues there too!

I seem to have issues everywhere in fact! How many of my issues are legitimate is yet to be determined!

[hitogoroshi]

VC 27 (Minor Day 1, VC 27)

Bane:

Target player's Sign is revealed.

(10)

Bulbazak:

DeasVail, Gammagooey, Shadoweh, Cheetory6, Titus, vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer, Aronis, Tammy, T S O

(Tammy)

[Decided!]

(2)

Empire

: Bulbazak, Marquis

(GuyInFreezer)

(3)

vezokpiraka:

T S O, ChannelDelibird, Untrod Tripod
(2)

Gammagooey:

ActionDan, Empire
(1)

Titus:

mastin2

(3)

No Bane Vote:

Aronis, Espeonage, TellTaleHeart

(Aronis, Tammy, Tammy)

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:00:00)

Boon: vezok

since he's my actual towniest read, but I'm expecting to have to change this to actually get it done to deasvail or Tammy (I'd also definitely boon TSO if anyone else is thinking about it)

You can't vote on a Boon until you know what it is. Similarly, you can't vote on the second lynch of a Major Day until the first one has flipped. I've clarified this in a VC before, but I added it to the rules as well to hopefully increase visibility.

[hitogoroshi]

The

Bane's

target has been decided.

Bulbazak embodies the Sign of the

Stone

.

The Choice and the Bane have both been decided, and thus, you are now permitted to vote on the recipient of Minor Day One's

Boon

:

Boon:

This Minor Night, in addition to using a Minor Night action, target player may learn the Sign of any other player. This does not interact with any abilities in any way.

[Espeonage]

I honestly don't trust anyone enough right now to give them Boon.

[Espeonage]

Oh T-Bone has offered to iso Marquis at some point.

This seems excessive!

How so?

It doesn't seem necessary because I think Esp probably knows me way better than T-Bone so I'm wondering why he wouldn't make any comments on me other than saying he's letting T-Bone handle it? It just feels like Espeonage is trying to hint at T-Bone and I's scum history, in preparation for a push he could make, which in reality is extremely limited, with just one game together! It's just really weird that Esp didn't have anything to say about me himself besides this, and part of it could be taking advantage of T-Bone being scum with me in the Scummie game <-- right there under my name allowing him to adopt a flexible stance!

I think I worded that pretty badly but it feels wrong like they're trying to plant some sort of seeds of supposedly detailed knowledge about me to go either way with the read!

T-Bone said he would do it if I wanted when I posted Tammy's request. It wasn't prompted.

[GuyInFreezer]

I honestly don't trust anyone enough right now to give them Boon.

how about fery

[Espeonage]

If I'd had any interaction with fery then I might but I've never formed an actual read on fery as far as I can remember in the past even though we've played a few times.

[Espeonage]

I like not trying to read people outside of POE if I know I'm going to have difficulty reading them. It's how I make myself look good.

[Marquis]

:/

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh btw fery is conftown.

[Espeonage]

On that note, it's one of the reasons I was being iffy about my nullscum read on Tammy. I don't actually think I can read Tammy except in cases where she is being very town in her own way which isn't happening here.

[Espeonage]

Oh btw fery is conftown.

Ok, wasn't aware.

[Espeonage]

:/

hug?

[Marquis]

How much of this game are you not just pretending to have read!?

PEDIT "Ok, wasn't aware"!?

:///!

I'll try to figure out what this and UT and everything leans more toward when I don't just want to take a nap!

Also,

Boon: Marquis

! I don't really think this is something that can actually be useful if revealed Day 1!

[Espeonage]

How much of this game are you not just pretending to have read!?

PEDIT "Ok, wasn't aware"!?

:///!

I'll try to figure out what this and UT and everything leans more toward when I don't just want to take a nap!

Also,

Boon: Marquis

! I don't really think this is something that can actually be useful if revealed Day 1!

I have read 5 pages total. Not all of it is in a linear clump.

[Espeonage]

You self voting is a really bad sign though.

[GuyInFreezer]

Boon: Tammy

[Espeonage]

Boon: Tammy

I am actually vehemently against this, for the simple fact that I don't feel comfortable in the ability for this town to recover from an accepted Tammy town read. The hbbegibbes adds to it but even if I was townreading Tammy I still would be against Tammy getting Boon.