New York 182 - Game Over

[Varsoon]

apathetic

not asparagus

i'm not that tasty

I got a giggle from this.
I'm going to feel like a jerkbutt if Thor flips town, especially since Thor is pulling a lot of breaks that in my head I keep saying, "Try harder, scumbag."

[zMuffinMan]

Meaningless unless you're arguing there's only one scum faction.
Empty and not pro-town but assuredly pro-survival.

btw, on this, unless every time you've mentioned sakura "buddying" you as a reason to think you're town you've been doing it facetiously, there's a certain dissonance in this statement.

[zMuffinMan]

the first line, not the second

[zMuffinMan]

i may or may not be on before deadline (3am now)

reminder about deadline in big, bold letters

DEADLINE: (expired on 2015-04-04 19:15:00)

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: notscience

[zMuffinMan]

you make me a sad panda

[zMuffinMan]

one thing that's currently bothering me. i could potentially see noddy scum IF it's multiscum and he's not-sakura-scum, but even then i think i prefer a thor lynch

anyway, night

[Thor665]

yeah i realised that i misread your question to me after i posted but i just never went back to correct it because, tbh, it was a Smurf question anyway

It's a perfectly valid question - you are selling this Thor scum scenario, but somehow justifying a v/la as a reason not to push harder because you need to "interact" with me - but your questions to me are just listings of how I'm scum, *without* questions to me - so...what, your interaction need was to tell me that you think I'm scummy?
Nah - that doesn't make sense.

what i was paying special attention to, actually, was who sakura called town and why. she never called you town that i can remember. or if she did it was a passing mention, at best. i don't consider that buddying.

Sure?
It's not what I was calling buddying either.

you keep referencing on point where sakura said she agreed with something you wrote as buddying that somehow points to you being town. i call bullSmurf. though feel free to go back and show me other evidence of sakura buddying you (i can't really do the opposite because i can't show you something i'm pretty sure doesn't exist).

If I show you this - what do I get out of it?
I understand you're asking me to do the work - but let's say I show other evidence of Sakura trying to get nice-nice with me; what is your reaction if I do?
Will you admit you lied?
Will you admit you read th egame poorly and readjust reads?
What's my offered gain for giving you links?

the reason i call it mechanical is you're acting like elusive was a scumsmurf out to get you because she "lied" about something, but the way you were doing this felt like a robotic "lynch all liars" scenario rather than considering possible misunderstandings, misinterpretations, etc.

I talked with her extensively about why she said what she said and asked her repeatedly why she thought it was scummy.
Do you feel she answered?
Also - how is that *not* seeking motivation prior to calling her scummy over it.
I literally feel like I did the opposite of what you're saying I did.

i'm calling your push on antihero simplistic because it was. there was no depth to it, it's essentially an accusation that scum are not going to read their buddy's posts (i don't think this is true), and sakura didn't read anti's post therefore he's scum (even if the first point was true, there's nothing to suggest scum read every town player's post).

So you're saying scum Sakura decided to skim town Anti?
With their history?
Eh...yeah, maybe, seems unlikely though - and thus my point holds water.

i was more asking which players you were specifically referring to. are all three of them scum?

I have explicitly called all three of them scummy for various reasons prior to this - I find the wagon scummy in its entirety. I will agree that is unlikely, but it bears mention because the wagon is also inherently scummy in addition to individual issues with each player.

Yeah...that's called an obvious scum driven wagon

who is the scum driving your wagon?

can i get a picture of what your current reads are?

The current wagon on me is this;

Antihero, zMuffinMan, pisskop, Marquis, Varsoon, notscience, copper223

I have outright stated the following;

Antihero

,

zMuffinMan

, pisskop,

Marquis, Varsoon

,

notscience

, copper223

I am not particularly decided on Copper or pisskop. I could see either as scum or town at this point, eh...probably lean more scum on pisskop and town on Copper at the moment, but neither read is particularly brilliant nor strong.

Which reads on the wagon are vague to you?

Meaningless unless you're arguing there's only one scum faction.
Empty and not pro-town but assuredly pro-survival.

btw, on this, unless every time you've mentioned sakura "buddying" you as a reason to think you're town you've been doing it facetiously, there's a certain dissonance in this statement.

I have used it repeatedly to claim that I was not scum with Sakura.
I do believe that logic easily holds out, and makes sense, regardless of whether you believe there are 1, 2, or 3+ scum factions.
Feel free to point out where I *ever* claimed it showed more than that.
If not maybe I'll use this easily disprovable lie (that you are demanding I defend...instead of "easily" fact checking it) as a scumtell on you.

[copper223]

Ika Droog and Flub should all be lynched, starting to suspect this is two town wagons unfortunately, of the two Thor is the better one to keep around.

VOTE: NS

[copper223]

I'd be super down for a ZZZX flash.

[pisskop]

Y?

vote: NS

[copper223]

I think Seohyun nailed him with the opportunistic vote switch on Anti he mentions and it's the same thing I noticed, also it's likely that: "his ISO is even worse than mine" plus a vote after that is something scum will say.

[copper223]

Still not so sold on Antihero town btw.

[pisskop]

We dont have time for a flashwagon today.

[pisskop]

Also L-1

[Thor665]

Still not so sold on Antihero town btw.

His continued lurk will eventually make Marquis re-assess the read.
Till then I marginally buy the activity tell as honest.

[The Bulge]

Votecount 2.14

notscience (8) -

TheFuzzylogic99, Thor665, ZZZX, Gorkington, Seohyun, OkaPoka, copper223, pisskop

Antihero (0) -

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (3) -

ika, droog, Flubbernugget

copper223 (0) -

zMuffinMan (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (0) -

ika (0) -

droog (0) -

Marquis (0) -

OkaPoka (0) -

mnemonicdevice (0) -

pisskop (0) -

Seohyun (0) -

Thor665 (6) -

Antihero, zMuffinMan, Marquis, Varsoon, notscience, mnemonicdevice

Varsoon (0) -

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Boonskiies

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-04-04 19:15:00) (April 4^th).

[Marquis]

thor actually probably did look at anti's sitewide activity but decide to pretend he didn't and ignore what he found when

that

didn't further his agenda either

[OkaPoka]

do you know who has been coasting the entire game?

fucking boon.

[Seohyun]

I'm here, 3 hours left
what's up with that fuzzy wagon, man

[Seohyun]

AND boonskiies, just realized he hasn't been voting at all

[ika]

VOTE: ns

will be at work

[Marquis]

sorry notty :/

VOTE: ns

[The Bulge]

Votecount 2.15

notscience (LYNCH) -

TheFuzzylogic99, Thor665, ZZZX, Gorkington, Seohyun, OkaPoka, copper223, pisskop, ika, Marquis

Antihero (0) -

Boonskiies (0) -

TheFuzzylogic99 (2) -

droog, Flubbernugget

copper223 (0) -

zMuffinMan (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

Gorkington (0) -

ika (0) -

droog (0) -

Marquis (0) -

OkaPoka (0) -

mnemonicdevice (0) -

pisskop (0) -

Seohyun (0) -

Thor665 (5) -

Antihero, zMuffinMan, Varsoon, notscience, mnemonicdevice

Varsoon (0) -

ZZZX (0) -

Not Voting -

Boonskiies

With 18 alive, it's 10 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-04-04 19:15:00) (April 4^th).

[The Bulge]

Lynch!

notscience has been lynched. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 2. Please submit all Night Actions within (expired on 2015-04-06 16:14:00).