New York 180 (Endgame)

[SilverWolf]

You can call me anything though I'm not sure my wife would approve:)

Yikes!! Anything but that...................................

[SilverWolf]

goodmorning: kitzs, elusive
elusive: marquis, shinobi, silverwolf

@ika

Please give us a new deadline timer for today that takes into account the new day/new deadline. I would do it but I'd rather the first one came from the mod.

Thanks!!

[goodmorning]

Because I didn't feel there was much point.

VOTE: Goodmorning

I'm sorry but the paranoia has overflown.
By not expanding, you make sure to keep to a "certain group of players".

If I were you, I'd continue with more players to prove it's not just a scum team and that anyone can be part of.

It's not a group. Me and the person I Neighbourise get a thread that's only open the Day after the Night I Neighbourise them in.

Has this not been clear?

[elusive]

Why haven't you neighborized more people? I mean you could question them or talk to them? Can you repeat what actions you took what night?

[goodmorning]

All of those have been asked and answered at least twice each.

[T S O]

For once I agree with gm here.

[elusive]

Town can't have that many neighbor roles? SW & Ozgin are neighbors (or clarify neighbors or masons) and GM was neighbors with Aeronaut and who else? Don't want to wade through the thread so answering again would be helpful.

[T S O]

I'm of the belief that there is scum, almost 100%, in {SW, gm, Ozgin} because of that. I don't think it's SW, to be honest. I've asked that we discuss Ozgin but nothing really happened because a spat broke out.

[goodmorning]

@elusive: I don't understand why this is difficult for you. If I can remember who TSO claims to have targeted you can probably remember who I've claimed to have targeted.

The questions you asked have not only been asked before, but asked

by you

before.

@TSO: I really don't think SilverWolf is Scum.

[T S O]

@TSO: I really don't think SilverWolf is Scum.

Like I said, I agree. Meaning it's you or Ozgin.

[elusive]

TSO, I explained my read of Ozgin based on House. However, I didn't look at Ozgin himself in ISO because I remember him having some sort of emotional breakdown. Have you looked at him in ISO, or what do you see there?

GM, people ask for others to repeat answers for many reasons. One of them is to see if the answer if phrased differently. It helps if town answers questions and what has irked me about Shinobi is his refusal to answer direct questions.

I can't mention other ongoing games unfortunately or go into detail about the recent drama theatrics but I agree with TSO.

[elusive]

Won't lynch: Cheetory6, Aeronaut
Could lynch: Marquis, dragonspawn, SilverWolf
Would lynch: Shinobi, Ozgin, Kitz
Should lynch: T S O, elusive

This is kind of where my head is at right now.

Meh, found this so I guess just ISOing is useful after all.

[T S O]

I feel like goodmorning is way too easy. I know that mightn't make sense, but gut says that the no kill is manipulation. Either goodmorning got Doctored by her scumbuddy, which is admittedly possible, or my kill was somehow stopped. Really feeling the latter.

[T S O]

Feel better about Marquis after yesterday, I think? That was slick scumplay if he managed to pull it off.

[T S O]

Feel less good about Kitz, on wagon placement alone.

[elusive]

I'm trying not to confbias. Can you look at GM not in ISO but in terms of when Aeronaut posts? One of her scum ticks is that she and her buddy post one after the other.

There can only be 3-5 scum\third party total? Best case 2 are down and 1-2 are left?

[T S O]

There are at least 2 scum left, don't kid yourself. Probably more.

[Kitz]

It's not a group. Me and the person I Neighbourise get a thread that's only open the Day after the Night I Neighbourise them in.

Has this not been clear?

The issue is that you have a select amount of players floating about in the neighbourhood.
Potentially, all of these could be scum with you, faking the concept of neighbourhood.

That's why it would be critical for you to expand it to more players, to confirm that you're actually a neighbourhood and not just a sillywilly scumteam.

It doesn't matter how it goes, team factions can pull this off.

I even crumbed this logic to the game multiple times that this needs to be confirmed, yet you go all "Nay, I don't feel like it, no point".

Reason that I believe there can actually be that many mafia, is based on the amount of TPR.

[dragonspawn]

GM, why we're you town reading aero so strongly?

[Marquis]

oh, that's what it is. kitz is reminding me of titus right now.

kinda want to lynch it after this one.

[T S O]

GM, why we're you town reading aero so strongly?

This is a good question which can actually lead to productive discussion.

*glares at town*

[Marquis]

for the record, yes, i see the points and am beginning to be open to the idea of gm-scum.

but that doesn't matter right now because elusive's role as she claimed it then and now was and is highly unlikely to be town when taking into account the flipped town protectives, the hints do fit in line with a bulletproof sk preparing to potentially claim vig, and it is a highly probable serial killer modifier simply because of math being a flipped town killing role and tso being another likely town killing role - and we know an sk most likely exists because of the 3 kill attempts on night 1.

[elusive]

TSO, what do you feel about "won't lynch" cheetory?

I've been feeling Kitz as town throughout and so I would have to ISO. I feel like there was an attempt to wagon her by one of the scum early one so need to doublecheck that. Again for those who have played with House, Aeronaut, pisskop before would they hard bus on day one.

[Marquis]

i have priorities and i don't much care for the gm distraction at the moment. the elusive wagon

needs

to go through.

[elusive]

I'm clearly town but you won't ISO or analyze my votes or do anything that a competent person trying to solve the game would do because {}. Which sucks for you in general, I guess.