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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:49 am

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Where exactly am I "giving people an excuse to join a wagon without actually having a case"? Am I pushing votes onto Shadow?
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:50 am

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In post 1348, White Narcissus wrote:
In post 1345, Mikazuki wrote:Eh, true. Well then I'd like to implore Shadow to spend their 1-2 daily posts tomorrow giving detailed reads, please and thank you. A claim wouldn't hurt either, although the possibility of fakeclaims may make that moot.

Why wouldnt they have made those "detailed posts" before instead? Unless you're suggesting that they go and make detailed posts within 1d15 hours and then we end up townreading them for them (won't happen) and have the leftover time to shift the lynch onto the one claimed VT which is now least likely to be scum? At this point they should be claiming flavor and role because they have the majority of pseudo votes on them and we need a lynch pretty soon, unless they come in and explain stuff today to give us more than 24 hours to reasses and probably shift the lynch elsewhere, which i don't see happening.
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Ooooh you misread my post. Read the whole thing again, I'm asking why 'I' would do those things as town, not saying what Shadow should do if they are town.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:51 am

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In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand. 1.5 days should be plenty of time.

you are indicating that even if eh turns town it wouldnt be a big deal if the reads were taken. Am I wrong?

I can just casually move in say how its the least loss for the town even if he didnt flip scum and join the wagon as scum f.e if I was scum and I would totally get away with it if I gave it a few honey'd words
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:51 am

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In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:So basically, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand.

What am i misinterpreting here?
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:52 am

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In post 1353, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:So basically, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand.

What am i misinterpreting here?
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:53 am

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In post 1348, White Narcissus wrote:
In post 1345, Mikazuki wrote:Eh, true. Well then I'd like to implore Shadow to spend their 1-2 daily posts tomorrow giving detailed reads, please and thank you. A claim wouldn't hurt either, although the possibility of fakeclaims may make that moot.

Why wouldnt they have made those "detailed posts" before instead? Unless you're suggesting that they go and make detailed posts within 1d15 hours and then we end up townreading them for them (won't happen) and have the leftover time to shift the lynch onto the one claimed VT which is now least likely to be scum? At this point they should be claiming flavor and role because they have the majority of pseudo votes on them and we need a lynch pretty soon, unless they come in and explain stuff today to give us more than 24 hours to reasses and probably shift the lynch elsewhere, which i don't see happening.
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I have no idea why they haven't been posting more useful content, I'm still not familiar with how hydras are supposed to work so maybe I'm overestimating how much of an impact Mala's absence has on them.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:53 am

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In post 1353, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:So basically, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand.

What am i misinterpreting here?
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You seem to have quoted the wrong thing.
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:54 am

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In post 1352, ZZZX wrote:you are indicating that even if eh turns town it wouldnt be a big deal if the reads were taken. Am I wrong?

Actually I could see Mika scum due to this, but Wis has a strong townread on her, wis hasn't been online on Skype today so I haven't been able to talk with him, im hoping he can give me more insight on Mika's towngame and see if he agrees or disagrees with you.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:54 am

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In post 1344, White Narcissus wrote:
In post 1340, Mikazuki wrote:and to encourage Shadow to give reads as town?

To be fair, that does sound like coaching.
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In post 1340, Mikazuki wrote:
Well go on then, why would I not want get more confident reads, and to encourage Shadow to give reads as town?



Here you go.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:56 am

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In post 1356, Mikazuki wrote:
In post 1353, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:So basically, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand.

What am i misinterpreting here?
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You seem to have quoted the wrong thing.

No, that was the thing i was alluding to when i said "That part looks like coaching", i quoted the other part when you were explaining why town you would want them to give reads.... wait did you refer yourself as "what would town me do" earlier?... *rechecks*
Eh nevermind i probs read something wrong again.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:56 am

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In post 1352, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand. 1.5 days should be plenty of time.

you are indicating that even if eh turns town it wouldnt be a big deal if the reads were taken. Am I wrong?

I can just casually move in say how its the least loss for the town even if he didnt flip scum and join the wagon as scum f.e if I was scum and I would totally get away with it if I gave it a few honey'd words


Yeah you're wrong.

I'm saying that we need those reads because they can be beneficial to us whether Shadow flips scum or town. I believe I already said that.

In case you haven't been following, I'm practically off the wagon by now, why you're under the impression that I'm trying to get Shadow lynched I have no freaking idea.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:56 am

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I think im just going to leave you to wis, just like he left Gaiden to me
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:58 am

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In post 1360, Mikazuki wrote:
In post 1352, ZZZX wrote:
In post 1336, Mikazuki wrote:, even if Shadowcat doesn't turn out to be scum, it wouldn't be a total loss to town like it would be right now if we could at least get their detailed reads beforehand. 1.5 days should be plenty of time.

you are indicating that even if eh turns town it wouldnt be a big deal if the reads were taken. Am I wrong?

I can just casually move in say how its the least loss for the town even if he didnt flip scum and join the wagon as scum f.e if I was scum and I would totally get away with it if I gave it a few honey'd words


Yeah you're wrong.

I'm saying that we need those reads because they can be beneficial to us whether Shadow flips scum or town. I believe I already said that.

In case you haven't been following, I'm practically off the wagon by now, why you're under the impression that I'm trying to get Shadow lynched I have no freaking idea.
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I am just calling you out for the WORDING if that sentense. The meaning is fine but it can be interrupted in a few ways and scum can use that info.

Actually w.e my mind is burned right now. Idk if I am wrong or not but I will just take a break now :P
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:59 am

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In post 1362, ZZZX wrote:Idk if I am wrong or not but I will just take a break now

So soon? You have only interacted with like Mika... well as long as you dont leave for like weeks again i dont mind
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:01 am

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Eh, I need to go to sleep anyway, 2am over here. Don't worry, you won't really have to deal with me for another 8-10 hours :lol"
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:03 am

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Oh, and yeah I do frequently have problems with wording due to having had a different first language for the first half of my life, but I'd understand if you choose to disregard that since you can only take my word for it.
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:58 am

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Ftr sakura I use coaching as a scumtell all the time and its almost never right
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:12 am

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Btw,

I'm going to claim now with all of the deadline thing.

We are a darkness decreaser. We target someone and we decrease their darkness by 40%.

Hence why we thought Lufan's claim was overpowered and a CC to ours.

I targetted notty N1. Because both Huntress and I agreed that he was town and the better route to go considering he could be an easy target to due everything that happened D1.

Also we need to lay off of huntress with everyone saying she's stalling. She's a damn good player in general and if she needs time to sit down and explain her reads then she does. There's some things in life that are more important than mafia and not everything should be about mafia. One thing I learned after this weekend is to never take anything for granted, you could have something one day and then next day it's gone without a sign without anything. So lay the fucking hell off of her please.

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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:12 am

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flavor claim if you didnt already please
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:13 am

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Also I'm still voting skold and not her at the end of the day so don'tbother counting me in.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:15 am

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Mochida Satoshi

He's a leader so everyone comes to him to be calm. Which is what our ability is called and a minor description so we arrent modkilled .

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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:18 am

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I kinda want to lynch thor again.
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:26 am

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In post 1367, Shadowcat wrote:Because both Huntress and I agreed that he was town and the better route to go considering he could be an easy target to due everything that happened D1.

What does this mean? Better route than what? Why would he be an "easy target"?
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:29 am

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Getting tired, and confusing vote counts. Calling it early, but remember Skold's back and ready to completely fail at reading.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:49 am

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In post 1367, Shadowcat wrote:I targetted notty N1. Because both Huntress and I agreed that he was town and the better route to go considering he could be an easy target to due everything that happened D1.

Huh? despite he having claimed that he was immune to the darkening during D1? So basically you targeted someone that can't confirm whether your claim is valid?
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