#41 - "why prawneater voted Creative over eyestott too"
#117 – points out the strange eyestott vs. creative interactions but doesn’t really question it
#120 – votes lalala for her weird ika reaction, asks lala a question about her scum game
#288 – This is a good post, but would want to see followup
#289 – Notes that random only townreads creative, is that true at this point and indicative?
Now townreads laladucks. Scum reads Creative & our slot but doesn’t provide a case at this point.
#290 – FOS’s Creative but votes DragonQueen
#312 – Seems weirdly laidback on the random read and the "hint" seems like possible coachin, “Cool. So do we let you coast by on nothing while the rest of us work around you or are you going to do something with the 13 pages we already have? Hint: your answer should be the latter.”
#313 – “I think my only townreads right now are laladucks, Scripten and maybe DV and eyestott. mollie is not doing enough for me to consider her town.”
AT this point reasoning isn’t provided for townreads (other then lala).
#343 – “2) Lack of interest and apathy IS a bad town trait but it is one that exists in some players who may struggle to be invested in a game. Such as the case here where seven consecutive posts were discussing what skin people used and whether blue text hurt their eyes. That's boring and uninteresting.”
#344 – Earlier scum read our slot due to vonflare but now flips towards FOSing him
#384 – Scumreads random for scumreading people for attacking and defending him (our slot and Von)
#428 – Votes random
#499 – Again refuses to provide clear reasoning for his vote on out slot or why he scumreads us. No logic, no case, no evidence. The fact that he is also FOSing or scumreading vonflare and random to some degree only makes this more suspicious.
That plus this red flag:
“What are people's thoughts on lynching prawneater? I think he may be uninterested scum, but I'm not sure. It won't be much use if he flips town, which is sadly always a possibility. :/
Strongest townreads are Scripten & ducks. Still not liking DQ (pending reply to this post), random, vonflare and prawn as of right now.”
Reads have stagnated and wants to actually lynch a lurker who should be replaced.
#560 – As stated Titus responded to the point Scripten made about this exact thing so why is he scumreading a slot he isn’t carefully reading?
#623 – Creative asks him for his reads:
“Town: Scripten, laladucks
Townish: DeasVail, deathfisaro, eyestott (weak)
Null: Creative, Futan, Angel, Senator
Scummish: vonflare
Scum: Random, DragonQueen
those are roughly my reads. I think random's case on DQ is really weak and just seems like it's fabricated.
ArcAngel replaced in and has done nothing: this has me worried!”
Anyone scum reading vonflare, Random and our slot is taking the easy way out. Something is wrong here. He also doesn't actually pursue his worry over ArcAngel or his prior suspicions on the slot.
#631 – Instead of responding to the questions, calls me a bitch.
This seriously sucked and Mac's on my blacklist.
#634 – Instead of logically responding how three players engaged in a fight could be scum or what reasoning they see to scumread vonflare, random and our slot responds with, “As for question 1, why does that have anything to do with my reads? Do you think because it's never happened before, it can't happen here?”
Umm…that’s a really bad response that does not in any way help understand why you think its possible in this specific scenario.
#728 –
Acknowledges that he isn’t reading
and like lalaladucks is sheeping Scripten. Of the following: lalaladucks, Scripten, and Mac at least one must be scum. They are hard town reading each other without reasons. Can’t actually provide reasoning for each other and look the other way at scummy posts or bad reasoning or actually support it.
Also, Mac trying to position that asking him for reads and content is “bullying” is repulsive. But I’ve seen worse tactics used by scum to discredit or otherwise demean town on the right track. The bitch comment was enough to make me dislike this person as a human being.
ArcAngel9(pirate mollie)
Null, I like Mollie and wonder why she replaced out (she did state the game was boring). ArcAngel I know from one game as Estival, and would have loved to see her in action as her town game is interactive and thought out.
Senator(prawneater)
Mac was trying to get rid of this slot, why? Pisskop has certain scum tells, haven't seen them here yet and he doesn't have a hard-on for Scripten's weak logic so that's a plus.
randomidget*
Ugh, I dislike this so so much. If we can’t move a lynch, this needs to burn with fire today to at least put that to rest. Anti-town, unhelpful, scumreads people who scumread him or question him. Part of me thinks that can scum really be this bad but idk? His flip reveals on some of the players ISOed etc today (Mac and Scripten who deviated his lynch and vonflare).
Scripten
Need I restate my case here based on meta here: (
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6810305).
I’ve also responded to all their questions. Based on their reference to my “self-destruct” they’ve read my town games and seen that my meta as town is to get really riled up when voted or needled. Scripten has been needling me based on faulty logic for a while and got his eruption. The nice thing though is that my outbursts usually end up helping town.
Scripten, Lalaladucks and Mac make up a triumvirate of players who have bizarre town reads on each other – refuse to question or provide reads on each other, refuse to actually give reasons for townreading each other, refuse to engage with players asking for reads. Refuse to acknowledge that even one of the posts\actions taken by another might be scummy.
Sorry, I wouldn’t hard read anyone on day one especially if they had the kind of scummy content these three have.
I’ve answered every question by Scripten who has constantly been getting in the way of my scumhunting and tried to use my town meta against me. I’ve provided a real reads list that doesn’t have room for any other crap.
Now, let’s see if he keeps up his end of the bargain. I doubt it since he’s been screaming I’m scum ever since Titus first mentioned him as potentially on the scum team. This huge OMGUS has continued where his read hasn’t changed from over 300 posts prior, much like Mac’s barely shifted.
vonflare
Ika felt neutral (his acting anti-town comment threw me off) but vonflare came in hard defending random which was strange. Wanted to question him but disappearing act number ...I lost count.
There we are.
I'd consider it a favor, Titus.
) The fact that you concentrated on Random instead of Prawneater when both were super lurky supports that fact. Up to now I've been thinking Vonflare, but I'm almost thinking that he and you are unaligned. That may be wrong, though.
