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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:30 am

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I would love to eventually draw a 3rd party role. Unfortunately, it's not this game. Good try though!

I think it's blatantly obvious I'm town btw.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:34 am

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In post 825, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think it's blatantly obvious I'm town btw.


I agree. To me, senator is demonstrating here that his strategy is to throw shit back in the face of anyone who points the finger at him. There's no reason to suspect you at this moment. You're not immune from analysis, obviously, but you're my strongest town read by some. Even if I could accept the sincerity of his read on me, pointing at you is scummy as hell. He's just trying to discredit those who think he's scum.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:47 am

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In post 823, Senator wrote:They're based on town opinion. Or at least vocal town's opinion. Of course you like them. ffs.


Wait, did you just call me town here?

Did you just proper clear me?
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:49 am

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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:49 am

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Full context...

In post 819, Senator wrote:That's great. Can you answer my question? What makes him town?? I can't keep repeating myself. I shouldn't have to. Why is that so hard to answer?


In post 821, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like his reads.


In post 823, Senator wrote:They're based on town opinion. Or at least vocal town's opinion. Of course you like them. ffs..


Looks a lot to me like senator knows I'm town and just slipped.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:54 am

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I don't know what this is.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:59 am

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Actually the more I think about that slip the more ambiguous it becomes. It could even be a town tell, since it's such an obvious slip that only town could seriously miss it upon preview.

Why would scum say that?

That's gonna bug me.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:02 am

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Reverend, let's sort Papi out first.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:04 am

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Yeah fine.

vote papi
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:15 am

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In post 829, TheReverend wrote:Full context...

In post 819, Senator wrote:That's great. Can you answer my question? What makes him town?? I can't keep repeating myself. I shouldn't have to. Why is that so hard to answer?


In post 821, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like his reads.


In post 823, Senator wrote:They're based on town opinion. Or at least vocal town's opinion. Of course you like them. ffs..


Looks a lot to me like senator knows I'm town and just slipped.


Yeah, this seems a lot more legit than cons whole baiting "slip" I like this. A lot
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:16 am

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Hammer hammer hammer. Hammer senator.
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:20 am

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In post 834, lane0168 wrote:
In post 829, TheReverend wrote:Full context...

In post 819, Senator wrote:That's great. Can you answer my question? What makes him town?? I can't keep repeating myself. I shouldn't have to. Why is that so hard to answer?


In post 821, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I like his reads.


In post 823, Senator wrote:They're based on town opinion. Or at least vocal town's opinion. Of course you like them. ffs..


Looks a lot to me like senator knows I'm town and just slipped.


Yeah, this seems a lot more legit than cons whole baiting "slip" I like this. A lot

What? His reads are modified from BBT's reads. It doesn't take an English professor to see he's reaching for this.
In post 794, Senator wrote:At this point, its clear that he isn't analyzing the game in any manner intent on finding scum. He's playing the mob rule of the moment.

You care to tell me why this looks like a slip or whatever?

In post 835, lane0168 wrote:Hammer hammer hammer. Hammer senator.

Hunh?
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:28 am

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Nah you dont have to hammer. It's important to play to your win conditions
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:34 am

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In post 837, lane0168 wrote:Nah you dont have to hammer. It's important to play to your win conditions

Wholly cow, good way to sidestep the question.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:38 am

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In post 838, pisskop wrote:
In post 837, lane0168 wrote:Nah you dont have to hammer. It's important to play to your win conditions

Wholly cow, good way to sidestep the question.

Why was it a slip? It logically does not flow.
Why would I hammer somebody I don't scumread?
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:40 am

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In post 749, farside22 wrote:
Wtf is up with people this game

Vote: RMM

Farside, you're trying really hard to avoid the Papi wagon.

Jump on. End the day.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:42 am

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In post 761, Senator wrote:
Misrep? The claim location is stupid, he blatantly said he was too busy to read; the real issue is why isn't he replacing out.

Why are you trying to argue such silly semantics?

It's not just the location of his claim that is the problem.

You're either trying really hard to pretend to be ignorant or you're flat out not reading this game.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:43 am

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In post 763, Senator wrote:
What? Since when has a nullscum read been not a scumread?

Nullscum is barely a scum read. Barely.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:50 am

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In post 774, Senator wrote:The resistance to it has been relatively meek, there's little interaction from him, and most people's cases on him seem to revolve around him not groveling for his life. The wagons almost flashed into existence, and people are now content to lurk it out. There's a lot of evidence I see that this is a bad wagon.

You yourself just tried to push the wagon forward by saying your other scumreads aren't on it. You believe in pre-flip association? If we are going to lynch lurkers let's hit dave.

Wrong.

He has been to L-1 3 times now (?) and still isn't lynched. There is quite a lot of resistance to his lynch. There have also been two counter-wagons produced (ConMan and RMM). I'm not sure how you can say there is little resistance.

He hasn't done anything. The things he has done, he may as well not have done; they're full of fluff. He brings no new analysis/information/reads/content with his posting and refuses to take a solid stance on anthing.

Again, you're not reading. You clearly don't (or are at least pretending) understand the case on Papi.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:54 am

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Also, @sen, tthat's not what you said to me. You dismissed my whole post as me focusing on a language issue. My biggest point was, wouldn't tow, at l-, make a case on actaul scum?! Rather than be apathetic to the lynch.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:54 am

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A nullscum read is not a slightly scummy read. I don't care to lynch 'slightly scummy' people, and never have.

And the Papi case is unconvincing. You're trying to pressure me into it. You're pushing bad townplay as scumplay. They certainly overlap, but I don't see it. I don't know where you're getting the idea that I'm wrong for not being in synch with you. Its silly. Have you given thought to what we do tomorrow if Papi flips town, SK, or scum?
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:57 am

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And now you're picking up ScumReverend's 'Senator isn't reading' jive. Vote for him with me. He's so scummy and vapid it hurts me.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:58 am

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In post 845, Senator wrote:A nullscum read is not a slightly scummy read. I don't care to lynch 'slightly scummy' people, and never have.

And the Papi case is unconvincing. You're trying to pressure me into it. You're pushing bad townplay as scumplay. They certainly overlap, but I don't see it. I don't know where you're getting the idea that I'm wrong for not being in synch with you. Its silly. Have you given thought to what we do tomorrow if Papi flips town, SK, or scum?

What does nullscum mean to you? To me, it means leaning on the scum side of null (weak scum read)

I don't need you to hammer your buddy. Someone else will.

You're wrong because I just showed you that the Papi wagon has faced quite a lot of resistance after you claimed it had faced none.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:12 am

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In post 787, Senator wrote:
I thought he was trying to brush over it, and then lurk his way through the repercussions after the omgus push failed. I explained that thought process in my posts. If he was scum I would imagine he would have had said I was lying and just trying to appease him as well, but he didn't and thus let go of a reason to blindly suspect me. So when I found no reason to scumread him I stopped.

Can you elaborate on this a little more clearly. I'm finding it hard to follow, quote some posts to show me what you're talking about.

I asked why you changed your read on Bella after rereading her ISO.
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:16 am

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In post 848, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Bella after rereading her ISO.

Bella? I was talking about Lane in that quote. And in the quote you posted. Bella's still slightly scummy.
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