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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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In post 1640, FakeGod wrote:
I refuse to believe this wagon is made solely of town.
Cho, Elbirn, lufan, lalaladucks and ABR can't all be town. and i'm townreading the last 3 so...I bloom in spring?
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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Now let's apply that theory here:
In post 1097, FakeGod wrote:
The wagon's composition is nearly identical, it has 3 conf towns on it, switching massive and Equinox, and RC is on this one, Elbirn is also here.
Elbirn, grapes, lalaladucks, ABR.
While i'm not townreading grapes, don't think this incriminates him, as RC's already a scum on the wagon i'd say there should be >at least< 1 more. Elbirn is further incriminated by the Katsuki lynch, Cho and Elbirn both make good scum candidates. Now what does this mean for grapes, well... it pretty much depends on Elbirn's alignment at this point he's been almost everywhere, and it should provide the most info, however we can't afford any more mistakes, im willing to risk it here. muffin did say before when discussing massive, that it is very likely scum could be bussing while they are certain their scum partner wont be lynched anytime soon and:
Elbirn [3] - Glass, The Bulge, farside22
This is interesting, it's quite possible Bulge (Cho) is busing here.
So in the end conclusion
There's at least 2 scum within Elbirn, Cho, grapes.
i think the chances of either of these 3 flipping scum are pretty good...
UNLESS im wrong about ABR.I bloom in spring?
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For the record, from now on I'm confidently disregarding every post of yours pertaining to VCA/Wagon analysis, because there is literally zero sense to any of it. You're basically looking at every vote count, going "There needs to be at least X number of scum on this wagon because I say so", and calling it evidence. I am quite frankly baffled.-
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If anyone cared, my conclusion regarding Gaiden being the nightkill = He was being townread / Scum wanted me to use that as a reason to keep pushing town-Lala (I come in, see dead Gaiden, "See guys Lala did it again, she killed someone who wanted her lynched!) / there's scum within the 2-sin players, who wanted to use the others as a sort of shield, so they picked a 1-sinner. Said players with 2-sin are Cho, Lufan, LaLa, and ABR.-
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In post 2115, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I said that massive was town. We need to look at that wagon today.
Yea you were pretty certain of it too. I wish I could read apathetic lurksacks that well.
Also wagon spec is probably muddied since, ya know, sakura sorta made the massive lynch a done deal early on in the day. So the scum team could have very well just lurked out the day or pushed something else to look busy while town got as much sin as possible. Or they all road a mislynch that was happening for sure anyway. Whichever you think is more likely.-
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In post 2183, Albert B. Rampage wrote:In post 2182, Elbirn wrote:Said players with 2-sin are Cho, Lufan, LaLa, and ABR.
Try again.
Minus abr From that list, my bad-
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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In post 2181, Elbirn wrote:For the record, from now on I'm confidently disregarding every post of yours pertaining to VCA/Wagon analysis, because there is literally zero sense to any of it. You're basically looking at every vote count, going "There needs to be at least X number of scum on this wagon because I say so", and calling it evidence. I am quite frankly baffled.
There's a 1% chance that a wagon on Town has only Towns on it, and personally in my whole mafia experience i've only seen ONE.I bloom in spring?
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Unless you can point me to full lynch wagons being on town and only composed of towns that has happened very often, I'll take your discredit as claiming scum, since of course, you want to discredit my VCA, not the conclusions drawn from it, since you arent even trying to hunt within such wagons.
Vote: ElbirnI bloom in spring?
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In post 2185, Glass wrote:Elbirn, how the hell are you justifying NKA while completely dismissing any form of VCA?
Fun Fact: NKA is WIFOM more often than not, while VCA is harder for scum to WIFOM with it.
Mastin somewhere in a wiki wrote:Vote count analysis has caught scum more consistently than any other technique I’ve witnessed. It really does work, because no matter how hard the scum try to hide themselves, they’ll leave a trail behind, and no matter how hard they try to avoid being found out by the vote count (it is possible!), trends emerge eventually which are condemning to them. (Sometimes, it’s too late to find those trends, though…)I bloom in spring?
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In post 2182, Elbirn wrote:If anyone cared, my conclusion regarding Gaiden being the nightkill = He was being townread /Scum wanted me to use that as a reason to keep pushing town-Lala(I come in, see dead Gaiden, "See guys Lala did it again, she killed someone who wanted her lynched!) / there's scum within the 2-sin players, who wanted to use the others as a sort of shield, so they picked a 1-sinner. Said players with 2-sin are Cho, Lufan, LaLa, and ABR.
What do you mean when you say the bolded? Do you still mistakenly scumread me or no?-
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In post 2192, lalaladucks wrote:Intent to Vote
Guys, can you all please quote this post and say who you intend to vote for instead of just quick voting which could result in catastrophe?
... The same guy I'm already voting now, Elbrin.-
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Sakura Hana She/HerSurvivorShe/Her
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This is a (not affected by reads / interactions) Wagon analysis, take of this as you will.
^ -This is quite an interesting one, which make it even easier to root out the scum once i start to dig deeper into all other wagon dispersions-
I think this is a good starting point.I bloom in spring?
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Wow, i may be wrong about Elbirn, but i think i've found a nice gem.
In post 325, FakeGod wrote:
If we mix up the 4 voter Wagons we get this split on the unknowns:
[lufan131, Bulge (Cho), farside, Elbirn, lalaladucks, ABR] / [grapes]
guess ing 2/1 (3/1 if you include RC).
Unvote
Vote: grapes
"But Sakura, how did you come to this concnlusion"
Normally when trying to root out scum, you need to mix wagons with equal weight, you'll find that one tiny scum trying to hide voting in a safe spot, which is what grapes was doing here, notice that if i remove all the "4 voter wagons" and all the "conf towns" grapes is the only unknown here.I bloom in spring?
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