Mini 1667: Dr. McNinja McMafia [GAME OVER]

[Soren]

Anyways people wanting to lynch me is just picking on the lowest hanging fruit.

[farside22]

Yea I'm calling that bs.
If you felt that way you wouldn't be signing up for more games.

Felt like what?

What you said here.

I've already explained why I haven't contributed as much as I would have liked in 514. I haven't been able to get my head in the game and I'm sorry for that. I chose a wrong time to play, it's exam period for me and I'm actually taking a break from mafia from where I usually play mafia (Suzune can vouch for me on that). And I planned to take a break from playing mafia here as well, but I've always admired Suzune as a player so I wanted to see how she would perform on a site that is a lot more serious about mafia so I invited her to play. And so I couldn't help myself but play in the same games as her. I love playing mafia so when I can't/don't contribute and do what I do then it's also quite frustrating for me too.

[BlankFace]

Besides the whole I'm too scummy to be scum argument is Classic WIFOM.

[Suzune]

Suz: why no vote? I liked your most recent post.

I did not vote because I needed to check the reason for voting. I decided not to gut vote and instead to let it sit for the morning and come back and view it again later. By doing that, I allowed myself to be distanced from the situation so that I could see it in a new light or at least with fresh eyes.

on a reread I believe that Soren is out of character and that he may in fact be scum. He was my number one read going into yesterday and remains there today. So for the time being I will leave my vote there

Vote:Soren

And since no one here knows my meta other than Lucian and Suzune, maybe they can vouch for me that I would at least try to scum hunt if I were scum. Well, maybe not Suzune since she doesn't like meta.

In fact here's some scum meta from me.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1352976

I hate to be not valuable when someone needs me, but Soren you are not going to get a vouch for me from that game. I died really early as scum and I had that huge HunterxHunter game on the burner and it was absorbing all of my time, because I had a mostly inactive mafia team that needed me to lead it all the time. Therefore, I was not watching after I was sk-ed after teasing love/hate during the day.

If you are itching for a meta read, you only make freakout posts when you are town going to be lynched. However, i can honestly say I have never seen you in a situation as mafia before.

Fixed a broken quote tag.
~Skull

[Soren]

Yea I'm calling that bs.
If you felt that way you wouldn't be signing up for more games.

Felt like what?

What you said here.

I've already explained why I haven't contributed as much as I would have liked in 514. I haven't been able to get my head in the game and I'm sorry for that. I chose a wrong time to play, it's exam period for me and I'm actually taking a break from mafia from where I usually play mafia (Suzune can vouch for me on that). And I planned to take a break from playing mafia here as well, but I've always admired Suzune as a player so I wanted to see how she would perform on a site that is a lot more serious about mafia so I invited her to play. And so I couldn't help myself but play in the same games as her. I love playing mafia so when I can't/don't contribute and do what I do then it's also quite frustrating for me too.

What can I say. Humans are irrational beings.

[Soren]

Besides the whole I'm too scummy to be scum argument is Classic WIFOM.

I feel like people who disregards things for WIFOM doesn't think critically about the situation enough. You've got to weigh both sides and decide for yourself which you think is more likely to be the truth.

[Soren]

]So I'll go in reverse chronological order just because (づ￣ ³￣)づ

( ˘ ³˘)❤ lalaladucks ( ˘ ³˘)❤

You may not have been intentionally trolling in all of these instances, but it's fluff even if you didn't start it.

And is that indicative of scum? If so, to what extent?

﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿ O'RLY?
Two letters for all those paragraphs.

My emotions took over so I gave a half-hearted response.

Bridge troll.

Troll doll.

I wanted to try something. I guess it was a weak attempt at hunting scum. (・へ・)

I had a RVS on grapes since the beginning. Decided to change that up. When the vote on House didn't exactly do much, I decided to go for another.

I mean, would you much prefer if I left my RVS vote (・－・)？

Qué es esto.

I don't speak spanish.

I think you're scummy because your behaviour indicates you aren't very interested in scum hunting...
Like, whatcha doing?

Ah, I see this answers my initial question in this post.

I've already explained why I haven't been able to get my head in the game, thus the lack of scum hunting. So refer to those posts. I don't like repeating myself.

Would you be able to give a reads list Soren? (ᵔᴥᵔ)

laladucks and Suzune are town. That's all I got really.

I'm understanding the fluff from lalaladucks due to my own situation, so I don't think you're scum for it. You post fluff, but you're open. Also, that initial read I had of you in the RVS stage still holds.

Suzune town because of the way she responded to farside's tunnelling.

BlankFace could be a potential scum acting town.

WKing is very much a ScumTell. The purpose of WKing as Scum is being able to stand back after a MisLynch and saying "I told you so" while at the same time, not being a part of said MisLynch.

While that is a valid point. Can you say that you've never seen a townie white knight another player?

Defending a friend against a player ScumHunting them serves no purpose and is actually rather AntiTown. Suz coming to this site has absolutely no bearing on her alignment in this game and not everyone will be able to magically know her alignment without having to sort her out. If you've played Mafia for any length of time, this shouldn't be news.

Honestly I barely even defended her.

My problem was the use of profanity when [enter whoever's name that I forgot] called Suzune's reads shit.

I wasn't saying that I disagree that Suzune's reads were shit. Nor was I agreeing. I just didn't like the use of shit.

It's like he's saying that Suz is playing to her Town game based on extensive meta experience that he has with her and farside should somehow know that.

I'm not expecting farside to know it. I'm just relaying my knowledge of Suzune's meta.

359 is another pretty lackluster response to the meta/friendship question. It feels like a 'shame on you' moment, when that doesn't seem to be the issue in question.

What's lackluster about it?

Shame on who?

There seems to be a general lack of ScumHunting

There is.

{not to mention a few spots where he's fighting against others ScumHunt}

But was harmless.

an overall lack of Scum Reads

Like I said, my head is not in the game.

and the issue of him riding his grapes RVS.

You've basically just stated the same point three times.

Summation- I could go for a Soren Lynch.I like my Vote where it's at for the nonce and implore others to take a look, but I'll gladly see Soren Swing.

I don't know bro. You're one of least active players in the game, so when you jump in the game to attack me it feels like a scum picking on the lowest hanging fruit.

[Soren]

on a reread I believe that Soren is out of character and that he may in fact be scum. He was my number one read going into yesterday and remains there today. So for the time being I will leave my vote there Vote:Soren

I think there is a natural inclination for you to read me as scum every game...

You think I'm scum when I'm "leading" the town.

And you think that I'm scum when I'm not.

Where do you draw the line?

Can you spell out what is it specifically about me that is out of character, and why that generates a scum read? But if it's the same reason as everyone else, don't bother.

If you are itching for a meta read, you only make freakout posts when you are town going to be lynched. However, i can honestly say I have never seen you in a situation as mafia before.

Refer to attack on titan game where loveandhate was pushing for a lynch on me. We were both scum that game.

[Soren]

I admit that my play this game is poor.

But I have responded with nothing but honesty. Whether you chose to believe that is your decision.

(This is directed to everyone scum reading me)

[Skullduggery]

Day 1, Vote Count #13

Current Vote Count:

(1)

Bookitty -- Aeronaut

(0)

d3x

(0)

House

(4)

Soren -- grapes, House, lalaladucks, Suzune

(0)

LucianRoy

(0)

Suzune

(0)

BlankFace

(0)

farside22

(1)

PeregrineV -- BlankFace

(1)

lalaladucks -- d3x

(0)

Katsuki

(3)

Aeronaut -- farside22, Bookitty, Soren

(2)

grapes -- Katsuki, PeregrineV

Not Voting:

LucianRoy

With 13 players remaining, it takes 7 votes to hammer.

Katsuki is V/LA until 5/13.

Day 1 Will End on Thursday, May 14th, at 7 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2015-05-14 19:00:00)

Spoiler:

[Katsuki]

Cara you would never lie to me right?

Can I trust you to be town this game?

[Soren]

Day 1, Vote Count #13

Current Vote Count:

(1)

Bookitty -- Aeronaut

(0)

d3x

(0)

House

(3)

Soren -- grapes, House, lalaladucks

(0)

LucianRoy

(0)

Suzune

(0)

BlankFace

(0)

farside22

(1)

PeregrineV -- BlankFace

(1)

lalaladucks -- d3x

(0)

Katsuki

(3)

Aeronaut -- farside22, Bookitty, Soren

(2)

grapes -- Katsuki, PeregrineV

Not Voting:

LucianRoy, Suzune

With 13 players remaining, it takes 7 votes to hammer.

Katsuki is V/LA until 5/13.

Day 1 Will End on Thursday, May 14th, at 7 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2015-05-14 19:00:00)

Spoiler:

Suzune voted for me.

It was nested in her quote error.

[Soren]

Cara you would never lie to me right?

Can I trust you to be town this game?

Who is cara?

[Skullduggery]

Suzune voted for me.

It was nested in her quote error.

Fixed. Thank you.

[Soren]

Also I'm surprised that no one has commented on it but I'm enjoying the comics so far.

[d3x]

Buckle up, chappies... it's going to be a big one.

WKing is very much a ScumTell. The purpose of WKing as Scum is being able to stand back after a MisLynch and saying "I told you so" while at the same time, not being a part of said MisLynch.

While that is a valid point. Can you say that you've never seen a townie white knight another player?

In the context of the discussion that this is referencing, Town WKing is inconsequential. You were pushing against Boo because you were saying that 'a ScumTell is Null unless you can put a motivation behind it'. I was supplying a probable {and pretty plausible, considering the game state at the time} motivation.

Defending a friend against a player ScumHunting them serves no purpose and is actually rather AntiTown. Suz coming to this site has absolutely no bearing on her alignment in this game and not everyone will be able to magically know her alignment without having to sort her out. If you've played Mafia for any length of time, this shouldn't be news.

Honestly I barely even defended her.

My problem was the use of profanity when [enter whoever's name that I forgot] called Suzune's reads shit.

I wasn't saying that I disagree that Suzune's reads were shit. Nor was I agreeing. I just didn't like the use of shit.

I contend that your WKing/defending Suz was deeper than a single post. I offer the following posts: 192, 213, 215, 300, and 302. Those are just the posts that come before Boo's p303 allegation.

It's like he's saying that Suz is playing to her Town game based on extensive meta experience that he has with her and farside should somehow know that.

I'm not expecting farside to know it. I'm just relaying my knowledge of Suzune's meta.

And yet you're saying that farside's line of questioning concerns you because of your meta Read on Suz. You don't say that farside's tunneling is a concern because Suz is obvTown or that there's something wrong with farside's questions; you said that you're "genuinely" concerned because of

your

meta Read. Why should that have any bearing on your concern level regarding farside?

359 is another pretty lackluster response to the meta/friendship question. It feels like a 'shame on you' moment, when that doesn't seem to be the issue in question.

What's lackluster about it?

Shame on who?

It's lackluster because it once again has no in game relevance. You're saying that Lucian should know better.

There seems to be a general lack of ScumHunting

There is.

And you don't see a problem with the most prolific poster in a game full of fluff to not be ScumHunting? Seriously?

{not to mention a few spots where he's fighting against others ScumHunt}

But was harmless.

Hold on, I want to understand you correctly. You're contending that it's "harmless" to try and interfere with others' ScumHunting when you yourself are admittedly not ScumHunting? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...

an overall lack of Scum Reads

Like I said, my head is not in the game.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information. You're not ScumHunting and you're not developing Reads by reading the thread. What outcome would you like me to draw from this?

and the issue of him riding his grapes RVS.

You've basically just stated the same point three times.

StrawMan and wrong. I've said that you're riding a poor RVS Vote when you shouldn't. I've said that you are not ScumHunting. I've said that you don't have any ScumReads. I've said that you are interfering with others' ScumHunting. Those are all very distinct and very scummy things.

Summation- I could go for a Soren Lynch.I like my Vote where it's at for the nonce and implore others to take a look, but I'll gladly see Soren Swing.

I don't know bro. You're one of least active players in the game, so when you jump in the game to attack me it feels like a scum picking on the lowest hanging fruit.

Excuse me? Are you seriously going to push back against my case on you because my daughter was born 7 weeks early and I needed some time to stay with her and my wife in the hospital? For the record, I have not once needed a prod. I've come back from my V/LAs early. I've read and posted from my wife's room on the postpartum ward. And I did not come into the game attacking you. I was asked to specifically look at you and your 100+ weakass posts. My

first post

has more content that your entire catalog here.

I wanted to give my case on ducks some time to breathe and get some reactions, but forget that noise.

Vote:Soren

[lalaladucks]

Cara you would never lie to me right?

NuuuuuuuUUUUUUuuuuUuUuUuuUuUuuuuuUuuuu what r u doeingfgf

Can I trust you to be town this game?

Yes, you can, I'm town.
But are you?

[lalaladucks]

Who is cara?

Idek really, think it's a fairy inside Katsuki's fuzzy brain ^~^

[lalaladucks]

Will finish reading and respond to the rest later, but

Qué es esto.

I don't speak spanish.

Oh, it just means 'What is this'

[lalaladucks]

Who is cara?

The Spanish word for 'face' and 'expensive'
(n˘v˘•)¬

[Soren]

In the context of the discussion that this is referencing, Town WKing is inconsequential. You were pushing against Boo because you were saying that 'a ScumTell is Null unless you can put a motivation behind it'. I was supplying a probable {and pretty plausible, considering the game state at the time} motivation.

Why is town Wking inconsequential? Are you admitting that it is possible for town to white knight? But you're simply ignoring that just to push me?

You did supply a probable motivation. But you also disregarded my explanation of my motivation.

I contend that your WKing/defending Suz was deeper than a single post. I offer the following posts: 192, 213, 215, 300, and 302. Those are just the posts that come before Boo's p303 allegation.

I'm pretty sure that I explained myself in all those cases already. So not going to dig that up again.

And yet you're saying that farside's line of questioning concerns you because of your meta Read on Suz. You don't say that farside's tunneling is a concern because Suz is obvTown or that there's something wrong with farside's questions; you said that you're "genuinely" concerned because of your meta Read. Why should that have any bearing on your concern level regarding farside?

I guess you're right. In farside's perspective he doesn't have that meta of Suzu. So of course he needs to pursue it.

Guess I was wrong.

Humans are not perfect.

It's lackluster because it once again has no in game relevance. You're saying that Lucian should know better.

Correct and correct.

And you don't see a problem with the most prolific poster in a game full of fluff to not be ScumHunting? Seriously?

You're right. There is a problem. I'm a shit player.

Hold on, I want to understand you correctly. You're contending that it's "harmless" to try and interfere with others' ScumHunting when you yourself are admittedly not ScumHunting? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...

Nah I'm the one taking crazy pills because I'm retarded this game.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with this information. You're not ScumHunting and you're not developing Reads by reading the thread. What outcome would you like me to draw from this?

The outcome that you should draw is that I am a useless player and should probably not waste you guy's time spending it on me.

StrawMan and wrong. I've said that you're riding a poor RVS Vote when you shouldn't. I've said that you are not ScumHunting. I've said that you don't have any ScumReads. I've said that you are interfering with others' ScumHunting. Those are all very distinct and very scummy things.

They're only scummy because I'm the world's shittest player.

Excuse me? Are you seriously going to push back against my case on you because my daughter was born 7 weeks early and I needed some time to stay with her and my wife in the hospital?

I am not pushing you for that, please accept my sincerest of apologies if I did come off that way. Congratulations on your new daughter by the way. Having a baby must be a magical moment.

I have not once needed a prod. I've come back from my V/LAs early. I've read and posted from my wife's room on the postpartum ward.

You're absolutely right.

You're a trooper for keeping up with the game.

And I did not come into the game attacking you. I was asked to specifically look at you and your 100+ weakass posts.

Yup, me and my shitty posts. Sorry for wasting your time on reading them.

My first post has more content that your entire catalog here.

It sure does. It really shows how shit I've played.

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What can I say. I'm town, but that sure as hell didn't translate into my gameplay. I don't know why I decided to play during this time. I'm certainly unable to get my head into the game and certainly don't see myself doing so in the immediate future, considering that my last exam is on the 26th, so I won't be able to focus as much as I would want to during this period. I apologise for wasting everyone's time. I played so shit and shouldn't be playing anymore.

@Mod please replace me, I'm useless for town

[Katsuki]

Cara you would never lie to me right?

Can I trust you to be town this game?

Who is cara?

i came up with a name for her because typing lalala every time is so tiring

[Katsuki]

Cara you would never lie to me right?

NuuuuuuuUUUUUUuuuuUuUuUuuUuUuuuuuUuuuu what r u doeingfgf

Can I trust you to be town this game?

Yes, you can, I'm town.
But are you?

ok

vote soren

♤♡◇♧☆○□

[Katsuki]

ebwop: i told you i was going to come up with something else to call you, i wasnt joking that i was going with cara : p

[lalaladucks]

Okay, cool, but I don't think I'd recommend sheeping the duck, I'm not confident in my reads ＼（○＾ω＾○）／