New York 180 (Endgame)

Marquis · Post Post #6675 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:44 am

8 hours...

:/

PEDIT THERE WAS A VOTE HERE BUT REMOVED BC SELFVOTE

why you're all townreading shin-boi idek

Green Crayons · Post Post #6676 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:45 am

because that effort post GM did

Green Crayons · Post Post #6677 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:46 am

Hmmm.

Self vote gives me pause.

However, Kitz jumped the gun and didn't self hammer.

This is the all-in on the gambit if Kitz=scum.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6678 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:46 am

UNVOTE: Kitz

Kitz · Post Post #6679 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:47 am

I think we two are the only ones who ain't townreading Shin.
Altho Marquiz, you two are on the same potential slot. It's a matter of figuring out who.

#Edit : GM had bad effort and biased by a questionable / bad play depending on the perception of how things went.
GM wouldn't have been lynched if GM actually bothered to do a few things.

Marquis · Post Post #6680 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:47 am

bc all the big posts and big cases this game have been so accurate

i really don't know what to do to convince you guys. i feel like even if i make another big case it'll just be ignored because lol-marquis-could-be-scum or just bc stubborn-ass ppl

Marquis · Post Post #6681 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:47 am

In post 6679, Kitz wrote:I think we two are the only ones who ain't townreading Shin.
Altho Marquiz, you two are on the same potential slot. It's a matter of figuring out who.

#Edit : GM had bad effort and biased by a questionable / bad play depending on the perception of how things went.
GM wouldn't have been lynched if GM actually bothered to do a few things.

you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

Kitz · Post Post #6682 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:49 am

In post 6681, Marquis wrote:you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

Green Crayons · Post Post #6683 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:50 am

The GM effortpost is literally "statistically, based off of other normal games, shin is 90% likely town based on being a late-game wagon competing with a scum-wagon," not things he should or shouldn't have done in this game.

Kitz · Post Post #6684 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:51 am

In post 6683, Green Crayons wrote:The GM effortpost is literally "statistically, based off of other normal games, shin is 90% likely town based on being a late-game wagon competing with a scum-wagon," not things he should or shouldn't have done in this game.

A statistic or meta, is the same. It can be influenced and differated. Holds no water.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6685 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:59 am

In post 5595, ika wrote:
Shinobi: ,
goodmorning
, kitz,
Aeronaut
, [l-3]

Aeronaut
: Marquis,
TSO
, dragonspawn, shinobi, Cheetory6,
Ozgin
[LYNCH]

Not voting:
elusive
,
silverwolf

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch

(expired on 2015-04-06 00:00:00)

I was hoping this would help establish that Shin is town, but it doesn't really.

That said:

In post 5417, Ozgin wrote:VOTE: Shinobi

Because I think Aero is townier than Shinobi, and I don't understand the wagon startup on Aero. That's making up my mind, Wolf.

In post 5473, Ozgin wrote:UNVOTE:

Consider this my intent to hammer Aeronaut.

Aero, Shinobi got you here and here and here.

What do you have to say for yourself?

In post 5501, Ozgin wrote:Fine enough. I just wanted to wait for him to get home, but I guess it's time.

VOTE: Aeronaut

Cross your fingers, ladies and gents..

Looks like scum jumping on smaller Shin-wagon, hoping it will push momentum to smaller Shin-wagon, unvoting when that fails, and then doing a really lame bus. Which would support Shin being town.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6686 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 9:59 am

Look at that. I'm looking at things that happened before I replaced in ALL ON MY OWN.

Effort.

Marquis · Post Post #6687 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:00 am

In post 6682, Kitz wrote:
In post 6681, Marquis wrote:you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

...

i dont

...

...

...

maybe we should just lynch you then

pedit i do think aero's jump on the shin wagon was a dying moments bus though

Kitz · Post Post #6688 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:03 am

In post 6687, Marquis wrote:
In post 6682, Kitz wrote:
In post 6681, Marquis wrote:you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

...

i dont

...

...

...

maybe we should just lynch you then

pedit i do think aero's jump on the shin wagon was a dying moments bus though

Let's look at this way. Either of the two of you are scum.

If we lynch Shin, how do we convince the rest to lynch you over me?
If we lynch Marq, how do we convince the rest to lynch Shin over me?

Shinobi · Post Post #6689 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:10 am

Rofl. Okay then.

Gc, dragonspawn died today.

Shinobi · Post Post #6690 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:11 am

NOBODY SNAP VOTE TOMORROW.

I DONT TRUST ANY OF YOU NOT TO DO IT.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6691 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:11 am

Reduced to phone posting.

Yeah Marq I don't disagree but I still think it makes Shin look more like town, rather than Oz doing a bus of one buddy to deflate a this buddy's lunch and then swinging to the bus of that third buddy.

Green Crayons · Post Post #6692 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:12 am

Oh lol then yeah dragon is totes town guys!

Shinobi · Post Post #6693 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:12 am

In post 6677, Green Crayons wrote:Hmmm.

Self vote gives me pause.

However, Kitz jumped the gun and didn't self hammer.

This is the all-in on the gambit if Kitz=scum.

Oh that wasn't hammer? Goody.

I'll be home later, nobody do anything crazy.

Shinobi · Post Post #6694 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:13 am

In post 6692, Green Crayons wrote:Oh lol then yeah dragon is totes town guys!

Nice save.

Marquis · Post Post #6695 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:17 am

In post 6688, Kitz wrote:
In post 6687, Marquis wrote:
In post 6682, Kitz wrote:
In post 6681, Marquis wrote:you should probably vote shinobi if you're town and don't want a mislynch

The problem is that I'm not sure which of the two of you are and if I'm left alive then I'm just a lynchbait anyway.
Better to get the low hanging fruit, eh?

...

i dont

...

...

...

maybe we should just lynch you then

pedit i do think aero's jump on the shin wagon was a dying moments bus though

Let's look at this way. Either of the two of you are scum.

If we lynch Shin, how do we convince the rest to lynch you over me?
If we lynch Marq, how do we convince the rest to lynch Shin over me?

I can defend myself if absolutely needed
trust me, I haven't been trying at all today bc rl things + i just want to get it over with with a shin lynch now
plus if it comes down to you/me/cheet... well actually town is probably fucked... but we'll see. 3p lylo can bring a lot of clarity

Marquis · Post Post #6696 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:19 am

basically if you're actually town kitz you're doing absolutely nobody but scum a favor by selflynching/voting

even just putting off the pressure until tomorrow is better because i'd like to think lylo reads are more easily confirmable/bounceable

Kitz · Post Post #6697 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:27 am

In post 6696, Marquis wrote:basically if you're actually town kitz you're doing absolutely nobody but scum a favor by selflynching/voting

even just putting off the pressure until tomorrow is better because i'd like to think lylo reads are more easily confirmable/bounceable

Then convince GC?

Shinobi · Post Post #6698 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:56 am

Btw GC, when Ozgin voted me he put me to L-1.

Shinobi · Post Post #6699 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 10:57 am

I

still

don't know why Marquis thinks I'm scum.

Like, we discussed it and his read changed almost, and then it changed back and idk why. I'd really like to know soonish.