Mini 1671 - Eclipse Mafia - Total Eclipse (Game Over)

[Kalimar]

Vote Count 2.3

Juls

(2): Albert B. Rampage, Sotty7

Zoronos

(1): Scarab

Clusk92

(1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting

(7): Zoronos, Juls, Clusk92, Ankamius, Skold, Jeanne11, PeaceBringer

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-05-27 18:15:00)

Prodding Clusk92.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because Juls is scum.
Going to be honest I don't think that answer makes no sense whatsoever.

Then you don't understand mafia.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

ABR could be scum.

[Skold]

Then you don't understand mafia.

I was more saying that it has nothing to do with the question BBT asked.
BRB ISO ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

BBT could also be scum.

[Skold]

ABR has shown no real reason for his vote on Juls. That doesn't sit right.
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage
pedit: Yes he could. Any particular reason for him to be scum?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT could also be scum.

Come at me ABR.

Why could I be scum? Because I have figured out you're scum? That's good, solid reasoning.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I thought we were speaking in hypotheticals, pie in the blue sky type of conversation, fathoming random possibilities. Isn't scumhunting a bit like pulling the petals off a flower "he loves me", "he loves me madly", "he loves me not"...no? Then make a better case on me because my time is precious.

[Scarab]

What have you liked about what Clusk has posted Scarab?

I saw your question when you posted it the first time and I'm choosing not to answer it. We both know you're asking me things about clusk to skate around the point that you noticed his strange question earlier and didn't push it and I'm not interested in letting you do that.

[Zoronos]

"Wow, SNOT is angry. Scarab is kind of a dick. SNOT must be town because there's no scum reason to not want to be called SNOT."

That's not why I think you're town. That's pretty strawman, frankly. I didn't say 'scum reasons', I said 'scum strategy'. There's a difference.

You're likely town because killing the dude (thus confirming his alignment) who called you scum and that you got into a fight with (without responding to his allegation), and then posting that you were glad he's dead is not good scum strategy. It's completely unnecessary attention, especially reveling in the death of a PR (normally I see scum just ignore it or ham up 'oh that's terrible that they're dead'). I would hope I'm not the only person that reread the dead town to see what their perspectives were, and that fight is hard to miss in his ISO.
Unnecessarily painting a bullseye on yourself strikes me as unlikely.

[Zoronos]

I missed an entire page of posting. I'm the bad. BBT seems townie, imo.

ABR has shown no real reason for his vote on Juls. That doesn't sit right.
VOTE: Albert B. Rampage
pedit: Yes he could. Any particular reason for him to be scum?

Any chance you can expand on this please. Why does that make him scum?

You missed or ignored my previous question asking for your scum read / reasoning.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

282 - ABR, you have provided no reasoning for why Juls is scum. I believe Juls to be town, ergo, you're scum.

283 - No, you should answer my question. I suspect you haven't got a good answer and should Clusk flip scum, you should know that you're next to eat rope.

What is the scum motivation to me pushing Clusk now as opposed to earlier in the game?

[Scarab]

"Wow, SNOT is angry. Scarab is kind of a dick. SNOT must be town because there's no scum reason to not want to be called SNOT."

That's not why I think you're town. That's pretty strawman, frankly. I didn't say 'scum reasons', I said 'scum strategy'. There's a difference.

You're likely town because killing the dude (thus confirming his alignment) who called you scum and that you got into a fight with (without responding to his allegation), and then posting that you were glad he's dead is not good scum strategy. It's completely unnecessary attention, especially reveling in the death of a PR (normally I see scum just ignore it or ham up 'oh that's terrible that they're dead'). I would hope I'm not the only person that reread the dead town to see what their perspectives were, and that fight is hard to miss in his ISO.
Unnecessarily painting a bullseye on yourself strikes me as unlikely.

Okay, that makes a ton more sense. When you started talking about how my "genuine" emotion had no "scum strategy" I was like wtf of course it didn't why would you be looking for that?? (My use of "scum reason" there was a misquote, but I did know you said "scum strategy", my bad.) Garmr almost certainly died from being bodyguard though because I highly doubt scum would kill the guy who hammered the day 1 lynch stupidly early into the day....unless he gave off some sort of PR tell, I guess? I dunno, even then I'm not sure they would and I'm not going to try to look for that because I suck at it.

Unvote: Zoronos

[Scarab]

283 - No, you should answer my question. I suspect you haven't got a good answer and should Clusk flip scum, you should know that you're next to eat rope.

After this terrible response, I'm not even going to consider answering your question. I answered the first one for sake of full honesty, but your new question is just trying to direct the conversation on clusk into irrelevant territory. No. And

Vote: BBT

[Scarab]

inb4 (or after, by the time I type this out maybe) "WHY WAS THAT A TERRIBLE RESPONSE?"

because you read it clearly enough the first time around to ask him about it and I assume you had a reason for asking him about and weren't just trying to look important and you didn't say anything that would indicate why you didn't push him at all about that or about his wagon hop or, if you didn't notice his wagon hop the first time around, why you wouldn't have been paying enough attention to him to do so after having questioned him about his strange accusation

[Albert B. Rampage]

282 - ABR, you have provided no reasoning for why Juls is scum. I believe Juls to be town, ergo, you're scum.

Whatever man, your logic is extremely roundabout and dubious "Albert is scum because he's voting Juls who is town because Skold is scum and he's voting for her". Oh yeah, lest we forget, you also pointed out that you think Juls is town because of the post she made D2 where she says you are one of her two townreads. This I rub your back you rub mine dynamic is unsettling.

[Scarab]

and you had the nerve to try to imply that my accusation was that you were pressing it now, rather than that you didn't press it when you noticed it

...this is @BBT, not ABR

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scarab, do you think Juls is manipulating BBT or BBT is pulling Juls strings?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

289 - You still haven't explained the scum motivation in pushing it now as opposed to when I wasn't fully engaged in the game.

290 - ABR, I'm trying to engage you. You don't seem interested, what am I to make of that?

291 - If that was not your accusation, your posts are not clear enough.

292 - Stop playing badly ABR.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm not engaged in any games. Paradise Lost was the main game I focused on and it ended, then 4 games started all at the same time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, that doesn't explain why you're not willing to engage me here.

It's even weirder that you have no other priorities and are still not engaging here.

[Sotty7]

ABR could be scum.

Nah.

Then you don't understand mafia.

I was more saying that it has nothing to do with the question BBT asked.
BRB ISO ABR.

ABR was answering a different question directed at him by BBT. He asked why ABR was voting Juls.

Scarab finally makes a decent-ish vote. I am still unsettled by his Zoro reasoning, but the move over to BBT is much better.

BBT playing badly = scum?

Starting to lean scum on Skold as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm playing badly?

Please.

[Sotty7]

No. You said ABR was playing badly. You also seem to have a scum read on him.

Or did I miss read that?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm in complete agreement with Sotty.