Nightingale's Tale - [Game Over]

[Katsuki]

^I will also note that Nacho's scummeta is incredibly distinctive.

@Farside: What about my play is scummy?

@Muffin: thanks remind me to go read up that neighborhood sometime I didnt even know you had one in touhou

[Katsuki]

goddamn pagebreak

[Mac]

This is pretty weak. I also sense some projecting because mac here seems to be tunneling on brian himself from what I've seen. Being his lone scum read and all.

lone scum read does not equal tunnelling. if you check my iso I was interacting with others and only mentioned brian when asked. brian took alot of opportunities to shoehorn gifscum into his posts and coerce others into thinking the same.

[farside22]

I also feel that scum farside

probably

wouldn't have posted 326.

I dunno I somewhat like her reaction to pressure in general this game even if sometimes the arguments get a little messy.

I should probably sig that because it's how I amina nutshell.

@Mac: Agree; I'm guessing scum probably hopped on Nacho after my vote between (Katsuki, regular-Muffin, lala)

I have no real way to qualify that statement any further at this point; it's probably something to come back to later.

I lean kats and muffin over lala

Grapes is town.

Would like correspondence about this; the catchup post did not have this effect on me.

I liked the post. It was thought out and in my view scum would just pile onto my wagon with that read and continue. But didn't.
Yes I know im self absorbed I some ways. It's a flaw I sometimes forget about.

[Natirasha]

What do you think about the people in this game with whom you have the most prior experience?

By that I assume you mean zmuffin? Because Nacho tends to show his alignment easily later in the game when he decides to start building the townblocks.

But muffin, well, I mean, he's fine enough now. I'm 1 for 10 in pinning his scum game though.

[Kagami]

I was ambiguous more because I'm not really sure with whom you have the most experience, other than zmuff. I thought ns would enter in there for one, though I think his alignment will show in time anyway.

[Kagami]

Spoiler: post 340

and you're pushing me despite the signals that say DO NOT PUSH which already are much much louder than they should be

Lol

VOTE: nacho

Finished V/LA
Things here seem quite intriguing
Nachos are yummy

VOTE: nachomamma with guacamole

i don't like either of these. muffins I can arguably see where he's coming from but I think it's really cheap to just quote a post and saying "lol" with a vote. it's just shit.

meanwhile, ducky finishes her v/la, doesn't comment on anything and follows onto the nachowagon that is apparently rolling. cheap; i'd expect a bit more comments on the gamestate and instead, we get a fluffvote.

I kind of don't want to lynch anyone whose name is in this spoiler^

I also like mac's posts.

UNVOTE:

[Kagami]

maybe lala

[GuyInFreezer]

I'll do stuff this night

I have some townreads evolved.
Stay tuned for episode 27.

[SXTLHGaiden]

episode 27?

[zMuffinMan]

If I didn't agree with the rest of the reads I would have said as much. As it was mac was the only one I disagreed with.
I already explained my sukura issue. I'm not sure what else think is going to be said on this.
As for only commenting to gif, he was addressing me and the rest of what I read was really nothing special in my eyes.

ok. if you agreed with the rest of gif's reads, why are/were you questioning gif about his fake-muffin read? and if you agreed with the rest of his reads, why did you specifically mention bork and only bork in 63?

also was a bit unclear; i wasn't asking for an explanation of the sakura vote per se (though i think "playstyle change" is pretty turd reasoning ftr), it was more about why you were voting sakura over mac at that point. you specifically took issue with the mac read in the first post; the direction your second post headed in didn't make a lot of sense to me given your first post

Also in my view when people step in with a player being accused you don't think that BK will say anything if he is scum having someone who will continue to step in for him over and over?

how is me expressing a town read on brian preventing anyone from interacting with brian any more than, say, you expressing a town read on any random player is preventing them from interacting with said player?

if anything, he has more to answer to now because, for example, mac needed to go into more detail about his read?

What do you think of Kag being weirded out that I didn't have my post in order but said nothing about your long read that had a post out of order?

i don't really think the issue was just that it was out of order

[zMuffinMan]

actually skimming through the back-and-forth with kagami, i'm actually feeling slightly better about farside

meh

gonna think about it when i get home tonight

[zMuffinMan]

i think the actual points she's making look pretty shit, but the way she's doing it feels town~ish

gonna read it properly later

[Natirasha]

I was ambiguous more because I'm not really sure with whom you have the most experience, other than zmuff. I thought ns would enter in there for one, though I think his alignment will show in time anyway.

I talk to notscience offsite enough that I'm sort of out-of-sync with his onsite abilities now, also I kinda don't really read his posts.

[Natirasha]

That said notscience is posting less than I'm used to but shrugf.

[farside22]

If I didn't agree with the rest of the reads I would have said as much. As it was mac was the only one I disagreed with.
I already explained my sukura issue. I'm not sure what else think is going to be said on this.
As for only commenting to gif, he was addressing me and the rest of what I read was really nothing special in my eyes.

ok. if you agreed with the rest of gif's reads, why are/were you questioning gif about his fake-muffin read? and if you agreed with the rest of his reads, why did you specifically mention bork and only bork in 63?

also was a bit unclear; i wasn't asking for an explanation of the sakura vote per se (though i think "playstyle change" is pretty turd reasoning ftr), it was more about why you were voting sakura over mac at that point. you specifically took issue with the mac read in the first post; the direction your second post headed in didn't make a lot of sense to me given your first post

Also in my view when people step in with a player being accused you don't think that BK will say anything if he is scum having someone who will continue to step in for him over and over?

how is me expressing a town read on brian preventing anyone from interacting with brian any more than, say, you expressing a town read on any random player is preventing them from interacting with said player?

if anything, he has more to answer to now because, for example, mac needed to go into more detail about his read?

What do you think of Kag being weirded out that I didn't have my post in order but said nothing about your long read that had a post out of order?

i don't really think the issue was just that it was out of order

1)I didn't get the muffin scum read at all, hence the question to him.
I don't think this is really that difficult to understand.
2) as for why sukura over Mac. Idk I had one vote and picked one to put it on. Does it matter?
3) you keep disagreeing when anyone says anything negative about bk, would you like quotes on this? So what stops bk for responding or using you as his crutch? Why don't you let him come in and say his own peace?
Why is that an issue for you?
4) so what was kag's issue then?

@kats: you've done nothing town that I see this far.

[farside22]

I feel really disenchanted with nat

[Muffin]

and you're pushing me despite the signals that say DO NOT PUSH which already are much much louder than they should be

Lol

VOTE: nacho

Finished V/LA
Things here seem quite intriguing
Nachos are yummy

VOTE: nachomamma with guacamole

i don't like either of these. muffins I can arguably see where he's coming from but I think it's really cheap to just quote a post and saying "lol" with a vote. it's just shit.

Why's it shit?

[lalaladucks]

It's not shit. It's a big, steaming pile of guacamole.

[Natirasha]

I feel really disenchanted with nat

Understandable.

[Muffin]

It's not shit. It's a big, steaming pile of guacamole.

Meaning what

[Brian Skies]

Rabble rabble Fakegod made me join rabble rabble

Me too. I don't even remember /inning.

I don't think I've ever seen Gif post so much so early like ever. I also don't think I've ever seen Gif-scum. Maybe it's a sign.

VOTE: Gif

this feels like an rvs

is it an rvs?

Yes. Does it make a difference? I don't think it would considering you voted me regardless of what my answer would have been.

I'd say I was pushing Gif because of what he said here, but then I'd be lying because I just noticed that post today.

And I'm still happy with my vote currently, feel my head exploding with all the day 5 claims and wonder why the flark people are claiming stuff right now.

Bk: why did you feel you needed to claim?

I'm assuming you mean me, and not this guy. But I didn't claim my role, although I can understand why you think it was a serious claim even though I wasn't being serious about this game at all when I entered the thread and I had all of...one vote on me? Maybe two if you count Gif's posture. Cho's doesn't count because I softclaimed first and I thought his vote could have been skeevy and opportunistic.

The only thing I've claimed is that I'm a Day 5 confirmable role. The part about me being an innocent child was just me taking a quick jab at

Muf

Captain Awesome and seeing what Gif would do.

I doubt he's lying
That would be really stupid
Like, really, really...

You make a good point
Didn't like him refusing
Dead if he's lying

Nati maybe town
For that one contentless post
Hard to explain in...
a haiku
... fuck

You're doing that thing again where you have a read that's just so ethereal to me and I have no idea why it's even a thing. Bonus points for it being Nati.

if I believed the claim, I wouldn't be voting Brian.

I'm not an innocent child, so I'm having a really hard time rebutting your push against me. I think you're town, so I think I'm just not going to bother and hope you go away.

also weird verbiage regarding notscience who she has dismissed as a troll -- I see not trolling but instead pretty much just languishing. I think the best way to put it is that farside's "I think ns is trolling" feels dismissive [guess we can ignore him] rather than alarmist [why is ns trolling?] or corrective [hey ns: stop trolling] and I don't think it should. It's more minor a point on e-paper than it sounded in my head.

This stood out to me because I feel Notty's good at sitting on the sidelines with color commentary as scum which he was more than happy to admit in Survivor Mafia. Are you scumreading Notty? Because your use of the word 'languishing' makes me think you're at least leaning that way, but your earlier sentiments towards his mason claim with you and you not addressing him in any way make me think this might not be the case.

Thanks for being my back-up mod, by the way.

I'm not entirely sure what to make of the kastuki/kagami thing other than that farside-scum implies katsuki-town.

Why?

I just feel D5 is too late to be modconfirmed, purely because im assuming 13v4, if we mislynch 4 times and lose 4 townies thats 5v4 which is possible for BS to be modconfirmed.

But say we have an extra kill somewhere, like a vig or delayed poisoner ( ) then the d5 role is useless.

it's set up spec reasons and generally im not good at setup so I could be waaay off target here, but thats my thought process

I got to choose which day to be confirmed. The other Day 5 softclaims/hardclaims are just coincidence as far as I'm concerned. Have at that what you will.

Although I think I'm starting to see why my role is a thing for this setup.

I was like "how the flying hell do y'all know so much about setup"
and then I read the op.

Oh hey, look at all the helpful information I didn't read. How uncharacteristic of me.

*I don't see why one of Cho/Cupcake has to be scum. But I do think there's probably at least one scum double-voter or vote related role in this game.

i think 123 was facetious

It was!

unless BS really really hates playing scum.

I prefer to be town, but I also find it more frustrating and less enjoyable than being scum.

especially if that claim is positive utility

The positive utility of my role is debatable.

Why would scum-brian claim D5 IC under very little pressure?

Dunno, but he clearly didn't read the OP, otherwise he'd have gone for a more credible fake claim.

And this explains a lot of the suspicion on me.

also i don't think cho really has 5 votes on d5

Why?

thought it seemed to much, but if the mod has a history of roles like those then it's possible

Same mod that made Gif a one-shot infinite voter in Viscon Crossroads that never made it past N1. Also the same mod that likes to give town things like 4-town-roleblocker neighborhoods with a linked scum messenger/spy thingy.

I kind of don't want to lynch anyone whose name is in this spoiler^

I also like mac's posts.

So you like Mac's posts, but you don't want to lynch either of the players he's calling out as scum? Why?

[Cho]

Nacho treating my claim as if it's 100% guaranteed true is kind of... lol.

VOTE: Nacho

Normally I'd be squicked by the wagon speed, but I just tried that tactic to qualify my reads as scum, so I'll force myself not to be.

[Brian Skies]

I think the Nacho wagon is pretty awful and Kats could be doing the same thing he got away with in the last Alice game.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.6

Nachomamma8 [5] - Muffin, lalaladucks(x2), Katsuki, Cho
Kagami [1] - grapes
Muffin [1] - GuyInFreezer
SXTLHGaiden [2] - notscience, Brian Skies
Brian Skies [2] - Mac, Sakura Hana
farside22 [1] - zMuffinMan
Katsuki [2] - Nachomamma8, farside22

Not Voting [4]

- Natirasha, SXTLHGaiden, borkjerfkin, Kagami

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch

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Deadline is May 25, 2015, at Noon PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-05-25 13:00:00)