Mini 1674: A Minimalist Text Adventure (Fire's Out)

[RadiantCowbells]

Here's literally just one example of me fully outlining why someone is scum, to the point where I'd be willing to cop guilty them, and getting no useful response from town. The person who was pretty confirmed scum made it to LyLo in spite of my best efforts where I hammered them.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=61419

[Malakittens]

There's two reasons why I'm refusing to ever take a huntress townread to the ground.

I had a bunch of tells which she now knows so that's invalid in reading her.

I for some reason always end up townreading her after I scum read her in a game and she flips scum.

So I don't have a perfect track record in reading her anymore.

She's done a better job at mixing her meta together.

=.=

[notscience]

VOTE: notscience

I'm feeling myself.

Why, this time.

[BlankFace]

Here's literally just one example of me fully outlining why someone is scum, to the point where I'd be willing to cop guilty them, and getting no useful response from town. The person who was pretty confirmed scum made it to LyLo in spite of my best efforts where I hammered them.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=61419

I really wish I was playing with that RC. Do you feel that you're going to be ignored this game or something? Sometimes that's the way the game goes, choosing not to be useful yourself because you've had rough games isn't really a good option.

Didn't read all the way through your ISO in that game, was BBT the one who made it to LyLo?

[RadiantCowbells]

feel that is not a strong enough word.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like hell there was even a pregame where the scum said I wasn't going to be a threat because no one was going to listen to me.

[BlankFace]

I'm offering to listen to you. NS is offering to listen to you.

[RadiantCowbells]

You will offer, I will post, you will say "oh that's not really alignment indicative", I will give you a questioning look through the internet, we will all move on with our lives.

[pieguyn]

@ Pieguyn:

Re: 418 - Are you saying that because Soren is playing better than he did in what was effectively his first game here, and not asking newbie questions, that he can't be scum?

no. I'm saying that the assessment that he's asking pointless questions here is incorrect, and thus that scum reads on him for it are misguided. the meta merely serves as an example of what I'm talking about here.

Soren wasn't one of the main wagons at the time. In fact it was NS that put the first vote on.

fair point.

[pieguyn]

How do you know that there's three scum?

And I think I asked you before as to how you know that this is multiball, I don't think you answered though.

3 scum is normal for a 13p setup

I don't believe I said it was multiball?

[pieguyn]

One of SAKURA/pie is scum. Learning on the former.

sakura still isn't scum

explain *why* you think she's scum

[pieguyn]

also, legit dunno why people are having issues with Asher's reaction to this whole thing

I thought it looked somewhat town. can someone walk me through it?

[notscience]

How do you know that there's three scum?

And I think I asked you before as to how you know that this is multiball, I don't think you answered though.

3 scum is normal for a 13p setup

I don't believe I said it was multiball?

You said two people werent aligned and soen took it to mean multiball

[BlankFace]

Checking in to say that I'm going to read Mala later tonight.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Gonna attempt to catch up on this game now.

Can't promise anything though.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

334 - RC, mentioning this mainly as a reminder for myself but have you stated why you think I'm scum? If so, I'll see it on catching up. If not, can you do so now?

343 - Blank, you don't think Soren can fake these points that you have used to explain your town read on them?

379/397 - Cho and Sakura, can you explain town reads on Soren please?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

412 - RC, stop with the pre-flip associatives. It's so bad.

418 - Pie,

meta is useless

. I don't think comparing a newbie game to a normal game is valid. I believe Soren thought he could quite easily get away with those kinds of questions as scum because 'Hey, I'm a newbie!'. There is no chance in hell he would get away with those questions now. Additionally, if those questions got Soren scum read in that game I wouldn't be surprised if he employed different questions this time around anyway.

Also, I flat out disagree that Soren is committing to stances. Yeah, some questions like her questioning Bulge for reads are valid questions, but again, no follow up. Also, when there are lots of these questions put together it just comes across as making noise/trying to look like scum hunting when in actuality they are very easy questions for scum to ask.

I don't see Soren trying to work out people's alignments. At all.

420 - Pie, why did Soren not make their comment about making sure I scum hunt when I'm pushing for a PL before Mala/Pie contributed to the game? Why did they wait until someone had expressed discontent with my push on NS before stating these things?

Also, my main problem with Soren is hopping onto easy wagons. First the NS PL , then my wagon when it started taking off. Their whole reasoning for voting me was;

BBT is weird as hell right now.

VOTE: BBT

Seriously, wtf does this even mean? What is 'weird'? Is weird a synonym for scummy? If so, why?

[pieguyn]

removed post meant for another game ~ mod

[pieguyn]

FUCK THAT WAS THE WRONG GAME

@MOD: HELP

[Soren]

BBT is weird as hell right now.

VOTE: BBT

Seriously, wtf does this even mean? What is 'weird'? Is weird a synonym for scummy? If so, why?

Did you not read my earlier response

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p6867897

[BlueBloodedToffee]

422 - Pie, the scum intent in 'prolonging RVS' (when Bulge voted NS) is that it's a way of entering the game without commenting on the main issues. Normally, people might expect an entrance post to, you know, comment on the current game-state or make reference to thoughts they had as they read the game etc etc.

However, if Bulge enters the game by RVS'ing and then proceeds to engage with people he knows in the game via any other method than actually commenting on the game state/main current issues, he has achieved his objective and his integration into the game appears seamless while he hasn't actually done anything.

439 - Couple of things about your reads-list Asher;

You didn't actually state a read on Cho. What is it?

Also, you state ~things~ that have influenced your read but not

why

they have influenced your reads. It's more just a commentary on what people have done and not how what they have done has influenced your reads.

This is a fairly weak reads list.

Your scum reads are absolutely woeful as well tbf. Like, I see no reasoning for why Huntress is scum at all.

442 - I don't like Sakura stating he plans on ignoring RC for the majority of the game.

[pieguyn]

420 - Pie, why did Soren not make their comment about making sure I scum hunt when I'm pushing for a PL before Mala/Pie contributed to the game? Why did they wait until someone had expressed discontent with my push on NS before stating these things?

to be fair, I think this was directly *in response* to people stating discontent with the NS PL

I'll wait until you finish catching up before responding to the rest.

[RadiantCowbells]

Is this the real life

Is this just fantasy

Caught in a landslide

no escape from reality...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

453 - Case in point on Bulge.

Says he is going to read wagon on me when he catches up on game. Instead, throws vote on RC and makes no comment at all about what he was going to look into.

Integrated into game. Avoided major issue.

Bulge, thoughts on the wagon that formed on me?

PEdit - @Pie, so? If it was something Soren thought could be a problem, he should have mentioned it as soon as he sheeped me, no?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

482 - RC, why are you considering voting for NS?

492 - Soren, I feel I have been pretty clear in my reasoning for why I think you're scum.

495 - Asher, Huntress has not defended Soren. Have you mixed names up?