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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:53 am

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Or worse yet, LQ is lynched Day 3. BAM Bam Bam. Doc does. Then cop.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:55 am

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Okay, so as far as I can grok the issue is thus;

Since the Beloved triggered via lynch or kill - for some reason not wanting to lynch him is pro-scum as then scum could kill him and get a second kill.
But, scum would get the same benefit from a lynch, yeah? In fact, a better advantage, as that would be 2 kills as opposed to one to trigger plus an additional kill.

So your argument is based off the idea that a lynch was the only pro-town play, yes?
I disagree with that logic and can understand other town disagreeing with it.
Did Senator defend his choice in a weird way?

PEdit - did we do a mass claim that I'm missing? Or is there some additional gimmick that happened to LQ after Day 3?
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:58 am

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Its D1.
You just gave the exact argument I and a few others gave.
Titus is apparently really stubbourn town then.
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:58 am

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Its D3, not D1. we had no D2 because Princess.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:01 am

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In post 1621, Thor665 wrote:Oh, you're a pisskop alt?

In that case - no, it was absolutely not enough because it was just a repetition of what you had ssaid that I had initially questioned.

What actions?
What meta?

Describe them - if you can...?

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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:02 am

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@Senator - to be precise - I don't need your help to understand logic flaws from Titus. I *do* need your help to understand your own logic.

Work on that?
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:03 am

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Senator said he needed information to use his role, which is exactly why scum would want LQ alive. The longer LQ lived, the worse the game got. He fucks with Lylo as well.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:22 am

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Titus is so bad at logic.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:22 am

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Nevermind that I only just recently said I wanted the info for myself. She keeps adapting her story
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:24 am

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In post 1633, Senator wrote:Nevermind that I only just recently said I wanted the info for myself. She keeps adapting her story


Should she just ignore all posts and not adapt?
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:29 am

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In post 1633, Senator wrote:Nevermind that I only just recently said I wanted the info for myself. She keeps adapting her story


Well you only directly said as much but you hinted you were a PR and argued PRs want info so....
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:31 am

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In post 1631, Titus wrote:Senator said he needed information to use his role, which is exactly why scum would want LQ alive. The longer LQ lived, the worse the game got. He Smurfs with Lylo as well.

I think I understand your issue, I find it pretty thin though.
This is your strongest read?

In post 1633, Senator wrote:Nevermind that I only just recently said I wanted the info for myself. She keeps adapting her story

Would your role have benefited more by LQ being alive now, or dead and having caused a quick double night?
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:31 am

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In post 1634, Narninian wrote:
In post 1633, Senator wrote:Nevermind that I only just recently said I wanted the info for myself. She keeps adapting her story


Should she just ignore all posts and not adapt?

She should stop changing her story. Same concept as her miscontrusions. Just not really taking what I say and changing it so much as changing what she says in a vain attempt to push me.

TITUS HAS BEEN SHOWN IN THIS VERY THREAD TO PUT WORDS IN THE MOUTHS OF OTHERS AND NOBODY GIVES MORE THAN HALF A FLYING DOODAD.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:31 am

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In post 1629, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1621, Thor665 wrote:Oh, you're a pisskop alt?

In that case - no, it was absolutely not enough because it was just a repetition of what you had ssaid that I had initially questioned.

What actions?
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Describe them - if you can...?

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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:32 am

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She's being bad.

Pedit: relax. I'm running through his iso.
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:33 am

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Like there are whole games where I don't show a lick of work.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:34 am

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I'll relax when a question of 'what's your case' is managed to be answered within ten minutes.
I find it little odd that you need to research why you suspect someone, I'll admit.
But, sure, do the iso research. I'll be around.

PEdit - I agree, you probably have games where you don't show a lick of work and people let you do that. I am not one of those people.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:38 am

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Senator, Narninan unvoted because you were gaining too much traction. That's hardly ignoring things. You yelling I am twisting while avoiding having to put forth deep thought shit and spamming the thread with flail is making it impossible to read anyone.

@Thor, Your slot Saint and Senator were my scumreads at the end of Day 1. Saint flipped town. Your content gives me a chance to try and update that read. Senator drowning out discussion makes developing other scumreads near impossible as I get reads via interactions. If no one is posting, I cannot get reads.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:39 am

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In post 1636, Thor665 wrote:Would your role have benefited more by LQ being alive now, or dead and having caused a quick double night?

I was hoping to flip him over D2. We have problems tying people to content because some of the players ran LQ through a screen wiring.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:45 am

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Well Piss. I deleted my post.
In a nutshell:

I didn't like him flying in to confront PB in RVS.
I liked the flow of his posts after that until after his first SinSun vote. I liked how it was wispy as I have experienced with him; and had enough meat to pass.
I didn't like his early read on SinSun, but looking back on it I think its a much better vote. I was more stuck on his softening to the LQ lynch D1 and during the double night.

His content today is solely centered on me and he has his one vote on Sin.

So sure, I still find it lacking in his later posts, but I like the SinSun push. SinSun was a minor scumread of mine from D1 anyway.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:45 am

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unvote


I like how he's been pushing SinSun in my reread.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:46 am

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In post 1643, Senator wrote:
In post 1636, Thor665 wrote:Would your role have benefited more by LQ being alive now, or dead and having caused a quick double night?

I was hoping to flip him over D2. We have problems tying people to content because some of the players ran LQ through a screen wiring.

If you wanted to lynch him regardless - why oppose lynching him Day 1?
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:48 am

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hmm? the logic for the push was bad. The empty content of it was bad. It let scum hide in his lynch.

Titus and others seem to have this idea that since scum could off him in LyLo they would bitterly oppose his lynch and tried to squelch the opposition to the lynch.
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:49 am

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Like any smart scum would have joined the lynch that bought them a free night w/o day. they retained their 2 NKs.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:51 am

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Spoiler: .

In post 1140, Senator wrote:So you're going to settle for lynching toen because you're afraid to hunt scum?

In post 1280, Senator wrote:
In post 1275, Titus wrote:
In post 1272, ChannelDelibird wrote:At least Narn will be here as the voice of reason Tomorrow. I don't trust anyone else to do things sensibly after this ridiculous Day


Ouch.

Dont hold it against him. Hes more interested in a policy lynch than finding teh infos.

In post 1283, Senator wrote:Nope. on a theory basis we should have lynched for scum today and then tried to let the scum off LQ themselves. We have like a whole game week till lylo. Plenty of time to policy a BP. After we have some idea who is scum.

In post 1309, Senator wrote:That's crap, Titus. That's misuse of a D1 lynch. And once again I see you're content to misconstrue my statements.

I don't want to let LQ live his life. I want to not xenophobically lynch it D1 in such a fervor that scum can blend in and we get no info.

-We've provided evidence that lynching it is worse than letting scum NK it.
-We've shown that a double-night without info will be harder on town than scum.
-There's obvious scum motivation in wanting it lynched. Not only do scum retain this night's kill, they get another one as well.

There is no reason to think scum wouldn't happily jump onto the wagon of a Beloved Princess. I suggest you explain why they would.
-The reason I got from the thread is that the scum could endgame us early with him. That's bull. Thats a best-case scenario for them.

Explain your shit logic, lass.
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