CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #503 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:12 pm

YOU FACE JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #504 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:13 pm

In post 478, prawneater wrote:
In post 473, the freekazoid wrote:
Vote: recknor

Does scumreck angry post as much as town reck?

TRIFLING SCUM. YOUR WISHY WISHY RECK PUSH WILL BE YOUR UNDOING.

INFERNO

VOTE: PRAWNEATER

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #512 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:15 am

In post 505, dragonspawn wrote:Welcome to the game ap.

Greetings, Traveler.

to my side
oink oink oink

In post 509, the freekazoid wrote:Hi AP, looking forward to your thoughts. You as well Dan.

Welllll, I really wanted to be in this game so I could spam references and emotes, but I am slightly overbooked on games (And also making efforts to get personal life things in order) so you may have to wait if you are expecting my opinion on the past pages. I will keep current from here for sure though.

I thought Prawn looked scummy before I replaced in, in case that matters to anyone.

I guess 'push' is the wrong term, but I still think he is being wishy-washy and not-proactive in a way that makes me want to lynch him.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #514 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:28 am

Dan, read on Reck?

After removing any bias you may have based on his read of you, thanks.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #516 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:49 am

Dan is pretty town.

I'm a little torn on Reck in the bit I've read of the last few pages. I'm tempted to call him town for his whole campaign against Freekazoid and complete lack of care about how he comes off in it. He does seem aware of that though, and I don't think what I've seen is outside the realm of being scum. So, meh.

In post 452, Sonic Heroes wrote:prawneater wagon is a loser

You must be antihero. Hi Antihero. And why is the prawneater wagon a loser?

In post 459, Krystal Bald wrote:he says he thinks both we and freek are scum. that makes no sense at all.

Man this looks like shit that I post when I'm scum.

P-edit: Conflicted. I think I want to figure it out ASAP though because you seem to be a centerpiece of this game.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #518 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:59 am

In post 493, xRECKONERx wrote:farside always makes half-assed, frustratingly worded cases against me and it just pisses me off. It's hard for me to even know if she's being genuine or not.

So what is your read on her exactly? Are you just advocating PLing them right now or do you actually think that what shes doing is scummy for her?

In post 495, xRECKONERx wrote:holy shit I just got so fucking angry and exasperated reading your posts

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Stuff like this makes me think Reck is town. I tend to believe the frustration at least.

Mehhhh?? I am definitely feeling inconclusive enough that I'm going to go back and read from P1 before too long. I recall thinking KJ looked town when I was skimming this game over the past week, but I cant remember why.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #523 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:20 am

In post 519, xRECKONERx wrote:Blackrock Mountain

I am going to run Dragon Pally. It is a thing thats happening. 5 for a 5/5 and summon Onyxia on Turn 7? Pffpfpfpfpfffpttfpfpfpf

In post 521, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Vote: ika

☑ “This guy's vote is CRAZY!” ☑ “My logic can't win against a vote like that” ☑ "He NEEDED precisely those two reads to win" ☑ “He voted the only wagon that could beat me” ☑ "He had the perfect votes" ☑ “There was nothing I could do” ☑ “I played that perfectly”

I hate meta too. What is anybody's opinion on Grib? I skimmed through his ISO a bit. The only thing I really wanted to give him townpoints for was talking about how his reads weren't concrete at all, and I don't think anyone else in the world would really find that townie at all :S.

He was kind of jumpy about being voted in RVS, his backandforth with Sonic Heroes looked pointless and dumb, and hes just kind of not being useful at all but posting a fair amount despite that, PogChamp.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #524 (isolation #7) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:25 am

In post 409, the freekazoid wrote:Well he he was online
But not posting.
That's kind of bizarre.

Holy shit, this is some godawful hedging against my slot.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #525 (isolation #8) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:37 am

In post 379, Sonic Heroes wrote:excellent, nik gets to come in and drown the thread in bullshit thor style

Ok, this is a pretty funny comment. You get monopoly townpoints for the time being. And I may even consider helping you wagon Krystal Bald.

Klazam's drive-by posts are more on the town side of things, but I'm realllllly concerned that he isn't as I remember him being in UT's Religion uPick mafia. In that game, he was actually fairly invested and opinionated. I realize that this is the shittiest form of meta though and that meta is shitty, so I am going to stick to light-town on Klazam for right now. I do hope he steps his shit up as we get towards the mid game though.

In post 328, the freekazoid wrote:
In post 325, Klazam wrote:hmm. I'm here, but i can't decide who i think is scum.

I don't like this post at all.

What are you doing to try to find scum reads?

I'm really starting to see why Reck wants this dead. I can tell that at some level, there must be a playstyle difference between me and FS (I assume most of these posts are FS), butttttt I reallllly don't like some of these darts shes chucking at people. To a degree it really feels like shes taking a shotgun and spraying stuff around to see what sticks. The comment about JasonWazza being on site but not posting really came off in a "Hey who wants to vote this, you totally know you think its scummy!!!!" way since she didn't take a direct stance on it herself. I actually kind of liked Klazam's post here since I think it shows a lack of slef-screening that scum would be more likely to employ and its clear hes not bulshitting anything. FS's response is to basically point out that he isn't being proactive without saying it and to draw attention to a post whose wording may look scummy objectively without addressing that.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #527 (isolation #9) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:47 am

In post 444, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 442, Albert B. Rampage wrote:freek is a good vote too.

what makes Dexter such a good vote?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #529 (isolation #10) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:53 am

Man PrawnEater's ISO is vapid as hell.

I especially love the part where he makes a case on KB and votes KB, then asks ABR why hes voting KB in his very next post. Come on. I mean ok maybe you get frustrated when people don't talk about their reasons every time they take a step, but KB being your preferred wagon and one you've advocated makes it weird that you are throwing doubt on ABR's vote on it. IDK. Most of his stuff that isn't calling out every single naked vote in the thread is "I like this post" "I like FS's reads" and questions that don't go very far.

Soooooo, ya. I'm pretty much willing to lynch this at any point unless things change drastically. That being said, there is a scummier presence in the thread:

Death from the shadows!: VOTE: freekazoid

P-edit: I've got the beast in my sights, Reck

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #531 (isolation #11) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:05 am

Town: KJ, Dragonspawn, ActionDan
Mehhhhhhhhh Town?: ABR, ika, Klazam
Decided to give these clownfucks their own tier for now so they will talk to me: Troll Heroes
Null: Grib, Reck (is town if Freek is scum though, and Freek looks pretty scummy)
Scum: Freek, PrawnEater, KB

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #534 (isolation #12) » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:34 am

ABR and Ika should stop poking each other with sticks and vote for people who are actually scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #543 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:05 am

It's like Kj and grib aren't reading my posts.

Or just don't like them.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #545 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:55 am

GreyFace

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #548 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:36 am

In post 547, Grib wrote:I don't know what's so special about toDay, but okay?

Are you feeling ignored, AP?

Because Today is BRM release day, PogChamp

But, uh. IDK I put effort into explaining my read on freekazoid and you are kind of dismissing them as a bad/unexplained wagon.

Unless you are one of those people who is looking for some golden sign from God on D1, IDK whats not to like.

Freekazoid looks like Face Hunter scum to me.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #550 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:12 pm

Ok, well sell me on the not-voting wagon then.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #557 (isolation #17) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:27 am

GG no Re

RIP in pepperonis fettucini alfredo sauce

rekterino'd

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #559 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:54 am

prawneater wrote:

2nd post is revisionist. 3rd post is revisionist. Why didn't go through and comment on my iso when you made your first vote on me?

.....
You are painting a picture of my posts to fit what you want to see.

It's like you really want to vote me, but are looking for reasons to justify it.

Thats kind of how this game works, you know. You get suspicious of someone and you try and figure out whether or not that is justified.

I read your ISO because you were interesting to me.

I can't believe you are trying to nitpick the exact time of when I read your ISO. My first post in the thread was like 2 seconds after having seen my role PM. Consider it a pseudo-RVS vote if you want, I'd been planning all sorts of fun entry posts that I wanted to make because Hearthstone is kinda my thing. I read your ISO within 24 hours of entering the game because I thought you were scummy. I certainly don't believe that you find the timing of when I read your ISO scummy.

And I'd find your concern maybe slightly relevant if I were currently voting you, but I'm not. I think freekazoid is scummier which you aren't really acknowledging.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #579 (isolation #19) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:26 pm

ABR wagon is bad.

Speaking of antihero, where the hell is antihero?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #581 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:34 pm

KB, I don't care about associative tells on D1. Ever. Plus I've seen scum do just about fucking everything to each other so I'd never rule things out entirely off of anything like that.

And I certainly have no sympathy for your view point that you can't be scum with prawn or freekazoid, come on. That you've used that as a point against 2 people now is absurd.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #591 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:11 pm

In post 585, Krystal Bald wrote:also, what was your reason for us being scum?

I liked antiheros point about your behavior with the replace in.

I thought your attitude about being connected to another player read hyper defensive. Like rather than make sense of it, you just assert that the opinion is scummy.

That said, I am pretty willing to reevaluate my read on you if prawn flips scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #603 (isolation #22) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:41 pm

In post 597, Krystal Bald wrote:AP - i'm starting to get sus of that fact that you called us hyper defensive when going against ABR's random reads. question for you - do you think ABR is town, yes/no?

Jesus Christ.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #605 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:39 pm

Yes obviously I have a townread on ABR. I wouldn't otherwise be calling his wagon bad.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #606 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:40 pm

I flatout said it a few posts back as well.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #614 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:45 pm

There is so much OMGUS in this game, its absurd.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #622 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:09 pm

^ Wow, you go from being super certain to talking about how you made exactly that mistake in a previous game.

How much more time is there....

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #623 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:09 pm

Ninja'd

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #624 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:10 pm

Oh, < 48 hours to go. Fine: UNVOTE: ; VOTE: prawneater

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #632 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:49 pm

Have you guys posted since I replaced in?

Thoughts on current wagons?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #637 (isolation #30) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:34 am

Time waits for no one!

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #640 (isolation #31) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:11 am

I still think Freek is most likley scum. But with 1 Day to go, I'm not going to waste time on non-leading wagons.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #641 (isolation #32) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:12 am

In post 639, killerjester wrote:
In post 634, dragonspawn wrote:VOTE: prawn

Looking at the wagons and this one makes me feel good.

I'm trying to trust my gut more.

Guys? GUYS?!?!?!!!!

What is that post by dragonspawn supposed to be scummy?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #644 (isolation #33) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:41 am

In post 589, the freekazoid wrote:
In post 581, AngryPidgeon wrote:KB, I don't care about associative tells on D1. Ever. Plus I've seen scum do just about fucking everything to each other so I'd never rule things out entirely off of anything like that.

And I certainly have no sympathy for your view point that you can't be scum with prawn or freekazoid, come on. That you've used that as a point against 2 people now is absurd.

Yeah because you've sern pages and pages of scum fighting with each other.

I believe that only if you linked it happening on day 1.
Till then your reads are a stretch.
And your case against the hydra is simply omgus. acting like calling someone as a liar is a scumtell......I just have no words to describe how faulty your case was. I can't imagine the huge gags of reading and I agreed with praen when he said you basically called players scum then used made up reasons that no one with half a brain would really call scummy.

That is as nicely as I can put it. And I think town you would have better reasons to scum read people....or should I meta that and find out?

Lmfao. This rebuttal? Or the one where BRantz talked about which head made what post?

Lets see what is in this gem.

"I cant be scum with KB and unless you proivde proof of scum doing what I did in another game, your case is bad"
Burden of proficiency, with added flavor of 'use someone else"s meta'. Brilliant.

"Your reads are a stretch."
Ok cool.

"Your case on KB is omgus"
No it isn't. That would involve them having scumread me before I scumread them??? And if they were scumreading Jason then I assure you I don't care. If you are talking about yourself and not KB, then no. I already explained exactly why your statement about Jason was scummy, and yes I do particularly care because I know Jason was town. Calling my point "OMGUS" is just a discredit with no basis, I cant believe Im actually expected to acknowledge it at all.

"I agree with Prawn, you made up reasonings that no one would think is scummy"
I don't give a shit if you think that. If you expect me to give a shit then actually cite my posts and talk about them instead of hiding behind Prawn and making huge generalizations.

You are scum so you discrediting me and being vague is pretty much not something I care to respond to, especially not when I saw you do the same scummy shit to Reck not one week ago.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #645 (isolation #34) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:45 am

And once Reck got in your face about it, you mystically hand waved everything about him away and move on to other people.

In post 568, the freekazoid wrote:vote: Abr

Would also vote dragon or AP.
I'm just putting reck on ignore for the rest of the game.

Lets think about why that is cause I certainly don't see any town motivation to suddenly forgetting your lol-scum read on Reck without any hint as to why.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #646 (isolation #35) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:47 am

In post 644, AngryPidgeon wrote:"I cant be scum with KB and unless you proivde proof of scum doing what I did in another game, your case is bad"
Burden of proficiency, with added flavor of 'use someone else"s meta'. Brilliant.

Burden of proof ***

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #648 (isolation #36) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:12 pm

That isn't even a counterpoint.

You lofted that observation out there in hopes that someone would find it scummy.

The fact that you now claim it doesn't mean anything ...doesn't meant anything.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #654 (isolation #37) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:11 pm

Yes. I explicitly thought Jargonaut was scum. So I called him out on it.

Your call out of Jason was non-committal. If you had actually called him scummy for it I wouldnt be giving a shit, because some people (yourself evidently) DO use lurking as a scumtell. Or do you? Since you've now backtracked into saying that is was just interesting and not necessarily scummy.

Its pretty bizarro land that you are actually digging through all my games to try and find an incident where I commented on someone's activity. A+ for effort, scumbag.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #660 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:48 pm

In post 659, Sonic Heroes wrote:VOTE: dragonspawn

I hear bullshit

Antihero? MS?

I'm feeling whiny and want one of you clowns to talk to me about your reads.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #662 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:50 pm

15 hours to deadline, what the actual fuck.

I'll vote anything to prevent a no lynch from happening.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #697 (isolation #40) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:17 am

In post 688, the freekazoid wrote:
In post 685, prawneater wrote:@freek

Mantis's 241 was bullshit. KB's 339 was bullshit.

Her scumreads are pretty much just the people who voted her because her early posts sucked.

Prawn: they moved passed those reads. I mean currently she's voting you but what kb said after our argument rings true to me.
I think Jason's meta read in her was crap. There is no comparison and I think it was buddying.
AP's scum read is just about how One quote and that is it. He's harping on the same shot repeatedly.
That my friend is a scum tell

No it isn't. Wtf.

I have never seen such a horrifying misrepresentation ever.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #699 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:21 am

THE ONLY REASON I KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE YOU KEEP BRING ING IT UP. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. FIRST YOU ACAUSE ME OF NOT TTALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOUR "REBUTTAL". NOW IM "HARPING" ON IT???

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #703 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:34 am

Dragon, did you tell the 100% truth about your claim btw? I mostly believe it but there is a detail I'm trying to figure out in my head.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #707 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:39 am

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

Ok I just don't believe a divine shield would equate to full bulletproof.

1-shot or something makes way more sense.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #708 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:41 am

In post 704, prawneater wrote:
In post 701, dragonspawn wrote:So rather than consolidating behind the existing wagon of prawn, there is a mad rush to start up a new wagon with less than six hours.

why is that? I'll tell you.

because prawn is scum. Do you think the scum would be hesitating to close on that lynch otherwise?

we caught one of the scum if we can just close the noose around his neck.

Have you considered that maybe scum are already on my wagon?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #716 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:33 am

In post 710, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 707, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mmmmmmmmmmm.

Ok I just don't believe a divine shield would equate to full bulletproof.

1-shot or something makes way more sense.

and why would I announce to the scum whether its 1shot, 2shot, or total?

let them shoot me and find out.

I'm just paranoid because bulletproof fakeclaims are sot of my thing as scum. So details matter to me.

And I really doubt scum would shoot you at this point. a vig more likely Kappa

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #717 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:35 am

In post 711, the freekazoid wrote:As I said here we go again.
Rebuttle from me.
AP ignores.

oh my god.

I'm not going to talk to someone who constantly misreps and strawmans my content.

Especially not with like 2 hours left before the Day ends.

Arguing with scum is not on the docket.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #722 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:45 am

Huh so this is starrting to look like role madness.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #727 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:03 am

i'm a confirmable role, heads up.

Don't particularly mind being lynched so I can being never playing a game with farside again though.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #728 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:03 am

begin*

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #730 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:06 am

Yes, its probably role madness, lmao. Like you could have figured out that I wasnt VT when I said that last time.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #731 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:08 am

Of course scum would probably already have a decent idea that it is role madness or role heavy at the least.

mmmmm

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #735 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:12 am

Why exactly? I mean I haven't claimed even though I may as well have at this point. I just can't be fucked to care.

I do have reason to think that Prawn's claim is scum though.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #736 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:12 am

In post 734, Grib wrote:AP, will you have results worth sharing toMorrow that will make you look +town?

Yes. Although I was mislynched in another game with this role so fuck if I know. Idiots will lynch anything.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #739 (isolation #54) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:16 am

In post 737, Klazam wrote:Im 90% sure ap is town.

If you are scum, I'm going to lose my faith in humanity

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #742 (isolation #55) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:18 am

Klaz and grib can you remind me of your top scum reads? If Prawn flips town/scum how would they change?

Don't need to hear in depth, just for my reference.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #754 (isolation #56) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:23 am

In post 744, the freekazoid wrote:This isn't even a freeking claim.

You're right, its not.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #755 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:24 am

I dont see why everyone is rtipping over themselves to massclaim at the end of D1. I mean Im sure thats been protown ever in a role heavy game.

Or ever.

Kappa.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #761 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:28 am

In post 759, Klazam wrote:A town bulletproof is also a libality because its a incredibly safe claim as scum. I've claimed bp as scum before i think. (Or i planned to, at least)

BP is the role I fakeclaim the MOST as scum. Its actually becoming a bit of a joke where mastin will lynch me on the spot if I ever claim it.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #767 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:31 am

In post 744, the freekazoid wrote:No one.

That is fact.

So please don't theow shit at me because I find you scummy.
I find your case scummy and so far all your counter point is you just disagree.

Klaz: explain that town read based on a non claim.

There is nothing for us to talk about.

Im not the one posting videos attacking your character that are irrelevant to the game.

I find your case/posts scummy and you haven't said anything relevant tht may change my mind.

Lets spare everybody more horseshit unless you actually want my opinion on something.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #776 (isolation #60) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:35 am

In post 768, ika wrote:im a lone VT

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #793 (isolation #61) » Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:43 am

I think Grib is town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #802 (isolation #62) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:36 pm

I got a PM stating that my action cost too much mana to use last night.

I can only assume that means I was roleblocked.

Also Krystal Bald is still alive so there is that.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #803 (isolation #63) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:45 pm

so I wouldn't be overly surprised if scum have Loatheb as a character. Since I can't think of anything else in the game that would increase the mana cost of an abillity. Even though Im a minion, not a spell so the flavor doesn't 100% add up, but whatever.

I still have (all of) my shot(s) though, just confirmed.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #806 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:03 pm

Soooo, I doubted prawn's claim and believed Dragon's because Im a vig.

Starting to think Dragon's claim is legit but doesnt mean anything about his alignment necessarily.

sonic heroes needs to get in here and impress me.

I'd be surprised if scum-ika killed ABR here. Im going to look through his posts. ABR that is.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #807 (isolation #65) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:10 pm

Well that was short.

The only people ABR wanted to lynch were KB, Freek, and ika.

KB calling the kill a setup is hilarious.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #818 (isolation #66) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:26 pm

In post 810, Krystal Bald wrote:ABR's iso - shows nothing really.

You don't think it means anything about Ika or freekazoid?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #830 (isolation #67) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:29 pm

In post 828, xRECKONERx wrote:okay, why the sonic vote then? Why would you comment "I smell a setup" about the nk and then vote sonic and expect anyone to figure out you meant them separately?

I figured it out. But Im also paying attention to the game so I knew what implications the ABr kill might have that would cause KB to say that -hitoshrug-.

Go ahead and doubt my claim Reck. When you want to find whichever scumfuck roleblocked me, you can call me and/or beep me.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #835 (isolation #68) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:34 pm

Im considering a Sonic vote. Still not seeing reck scum even if he is being a lazy motherfucker.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #838 (isolation #69) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:36 pm

In post 832, xRECKONERx wrote:I just find it weird that we'd have a vig claim with a dead vig inventor already but I suppose that'll sort itself out

I swear Im a vig >.>

If I get ML'd with a vig shot 2 games now I will be pretty upset.

Doing heroic blast furnace be back in a sec.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #846 (isolation #70) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:49 pm

In post 844, xRECKONERx wrote:I still would like more explanation for why you & AP think Sonic is scum

Well in the entire time I've been in this game, they've done literal fuckall for starters.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #847 (isolation #71) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:51 pm

Who was saying Grib is town?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #851 (isolation #72) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:04 pm

In post 834, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 802, AngryPidgeon wrote:I got a PM stating that my action cost too much mana to use last night.

should we not just have a massclaim of flavor at this point? Scum can't hide behind it in that case

Because scum probably have fake claims?

I personally don't see a reason to mass flavorclaim since roles seem rather tied to flavor, but Im not exactly opposed to it I guess.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #853 (isolation #73) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:09 pm

I thought grib was kind of town towards the end of yesterday but Im not so sure right now.

so far I kind of like everyone's entry to Day 2 except maybe Klazam.

Grib advocated leaving me alive on the condition that I prove something and now I have an RB parked on me. Pretty lolz.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #859 (isolation #74) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:16 pm

Oh also I'm still reading Ika strongly as town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #861 (isolation #75) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:18 pm

In post 858, Krystal Bald wrote:he barely said a thing about the prawneater wagon.. just that "it was a loser wagon"

Ya, I saw that when skimming through their posts. It really reads likea hollow version of anti's town game.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #881 (isolation #76) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:22 pm

In post 873, ika wrote:im not even going to defend myself on anything you guys can fucking myslynch me im already pissed off in this game and that all it does for me to come back is bring me frustations and hate

yes im aware i have 0 votes one me and im being super overdefenive ractive but a lot of this is also due to other issues that are going on

pedit: im just going to afk while you guies talk about me as if i dont exist

This is why I think Ika is town.

Ya Im a sucker for the glorious glorious AtE.

I left the chopsticks at home, bring me a shovel to eat all this with.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #883 (isolation #77) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:26 pm

@Dan: fuck if I know, you are right in hindsiht that the claim was probably town. I guess I was thinking about DGB's role in Fate mafia + confirmation bias.

KillerJester, I have a summoning portal out and Im summoning you. Please advise on your current take on this.

Id say the same of sonic heroes but Im more inclined to just quicklynch them for epic win instead.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #886 (isolation #78) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:42 pm

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #899 (isolation #79) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:10 am

Fire elemental.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #900 (isolation #80) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:19 am

In post 897, dragonspawn wrote:Why do you feel the need to say you endorse the wagon you are voting for? Isn't it obvious?

how did I come up with the flavor for my role considering I don't know anything about this game?

Mmmm. If you are scum then you have teammates that could have helped with it. Or the mod just flat out gave you a relevant fake claim.

My gut reaction is that this post comes from town more than nit. Dragon as scum would probably know it's an invalid and easily refutable point.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #906 (isolation #81) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:33 am

TBH Sonic Heroes is starting to just look like PoE scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #914 (isolation #82) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:29 pm

Can we stop softclaiming and claiming in general?

that'd be fantastic.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #922 (isolation #83) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:59 am

oh hey antihero

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #932 (isolation #84) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:30 am

Damn it, you are whispering sweet nothings in my ear and me being the emotionally vulnerable lady that I am kind of agree.

Do you have any other reads we can talk about? Why did you think Prawn was town? Like a good part of why I want to lynch you was it felt like you were WKing him blindly. And I know you've done similar shit (like in Joss Whedon mafia) but it felt fake here?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #935 (isolation #85) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:35 am

I actually thought the post was townish. I see where you are coming from, but that was exactly it to me.

KB's post didn't seem well thought out. Like they saw the kill, thought that ABR was being a useless lurksack, and quickly defended themselves from a possible case there.

Although I dunno why they wouldn't necessarily wait to see who shoved a case based on the ABR kill first if they really thought they were being setup.

I guess I'd expect scum to make a more salient defense? At least one that isn't flopping all over itself to handwave the ABR kill away.

They did sort of express suspicion of Ika for it after I went through and commented on ABR's reads. I can see town remembering that player x was voting them though and not remember much else about what they've done.

And I'd like your opinion on me while Im making overly long posts here. How much had you read when you voted me. was it really for "purposely misreading you" and if so what of my posts gave that impression?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #939 (isolation #86) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:02 am

In post 937, Sonic Heroes wrote:too scummy to be scum?

that's what you're going with ap?

I never said that.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #940 (isolation #87) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:05 am

In post 936, Sonic Heroes wrote:
In post 935, AngryPidgeon wrote:I actually thought the post was townish.

no, fuck that. this is not going to be another round of chosen w/ bbt

And seriously screw off.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #942 (isolation #88) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:11 am

In post 927, Sonic Heroes wrote:
In post 805, Krystal Bald wrote:this night kill smells like a lynch set up

i was really surprised prawn wasn't scum.

VOTE: sonic heroes

so was the roleblock a set up too?

curious

That's different? The kill is public. Abr died. I'm the only one that knows for sure that I was blocked, I could be making that up. You are acknowledging it like you know it happened for certain.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #950 (isolation #89) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:04 pm

In post 949, Krystal Bald wrote:Not sure who the third scum would be. Maybe killerjerster?

My townread on KJ has definitely softened.

I thought his scumread on Dragonspawn was pretty weak and him hopping on my wagon after I didn't agree with it was weird.

And he hasn't been around at all Today.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #957 (isolation #90) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:17 pm

It's like I'm in the twilight zone.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #958 (isolation #91) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:52 pm

Does anybody tthink it'd possible kb and sonic ate both scum? I know I'm the world's most paranoid player but I kind of think my suspicion here might be valid? Someone tell me I'm insane or not plz. Also I'm kind of drunk for friends birthday.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #970 (isolation #92) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:55 am

Im not interested in a dragon lynch right now.

I still think his attitude about his claim is way more likely from town than not.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #975 (isolation #93) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:01 pm

I think its
SH (3): KB, Freek, KJ
KB (2): SH, Reck
Klazam (2): Grib, dragon
¿dragon (1): Dan?
Unvote: AP, ika, klazam

I feel like there is useful information in their somewhere. Where is titus when I need ideas.

SH could very well be scum. I doubt there is more than one scum on their wagon regardless.

I wish dan would talk to me about his vote because I really think Dragon's attitude has been town. the whole "how would I fakeclaim" screams town to me. I don't think dragon is doing next level mindgames.

Klazam wagon I'm not overly interested in right now since he replaced out and I had not much impression of him either way. I was scum with him in TheRoom which just ended a couple days ago. I didn't/don't feel like this is the same Klazam but that isn't really backed by anything solid.

I'll take suggestions for who I should shoot tonight but Im probably going to end up randomizing my choice between something private and something public so scum cant just decide to block me based on whether Im shooting town or scum; want to keep some element of guessing in there.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #989 (isolation #94) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:04 am

In post 977, Krystal Bald wrote:The "how would I fakeclaim" argument he made was a 0th-level mindgame because it was completely irrelevant to his alignment. He was setting up a fallacy of "my claim is true, so I can't be scum" to defend himself.

Yes, but if he were scum he would have to know that that defense is invalid. If he is town, then he obviously believes that point.

I think its more likely that he actually believed what he was saying there rather than conjuring up a defense that he knows is bullshit as scum. Im assuming scum have fakeclaims which is generally always the case, but even if they don't he could have had teammates help. Still I think that its likely its from town.

In post 978, Sonic Heroes wrote:nope! This slot is obvtown. Only scum would push here

Spoiler:

@Reck: Im starting to doubt that KJ/KB/Freek has more than one scum in it because they are all doing the same thing Today. All of them were loosely to moderately suspicious of me yesterday. All of them dropped that Today. All of them are pushing sonic heroes today. IME, scum tend to try and avoid blatantly doing the same stuff their buddies are doing (unless scum is Kuribo, DGB, and Katsuki). That they are all doing this and not even having drama about it in the slightest doesn't look like coordinated scum to me, or scum at all. I'd say at most one scum in that group based on that. I don't see why scum would be tripping over themselves to bus and/or wagon Sonic Heroes anyways so quickly. I'm pretty town on Freekazoid after parsing the different heads. Their progression as a hydra looks natural to me and they aren't really afraid of putting themselves out there.

@Dan: Ok, so what is the case on Dragonspawn then? If you don't like my reason for townreading him I'll consider hearing why someone thinks hes scum. But if that case is based on his claiming BP I probably won't be that interested.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1007 (isolation #95) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:30 am

Ya. Sometimes I have sympathy for people saying they ate obvtown. But given the lack of effort or anything from both of them, that is horseshit.

That said..

Let us see if this works

VOTE: Reckoner

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1010 (isolation #96) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:05 am

I wasn't trying to get sheep with my vote. I'm not ready to put them at l-1 yet. Reck has been in a weird spot in my head all game. I thought his soft claim in confirmation was probably town and his rage looked town. I'm thinking the latter is probably alignment neutral for him though and the former isn't really doing enough to make me feel good about the rest of his posts.

It could be the player list, but I've seen Reck as town in a few places and I'm not quite feeling it here. Have I ever been town in a game with him? I modded Reckoning 3...

Whatever. I want to talk about reck.

I doubt sh is the mafia role blocker given their VT claim. RB us actually a role worth keeping alive as long as possible, so I'd expect a claim that would be less likely to keep getting them votes if they were a moderate scum pr.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1016 (isolation #97) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:04 pm

In post 1014, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 1012, xRECKONERx wrote:Hey AP why are you voting me though

probably because he is scum with sonic, and is being greedy and wanting another town lynch, before sonic inevitably goes down

In post 1015, Krystal Bald wrote:i'm seriously confused at what the hesitation in voting sonic is.
i honestly don't know how he could be townread in the slightest

Fuck right off.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1018 (isolation #98) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:21 pm

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Sonic Heroes

One vote off lethal.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #1020 (isolation #99) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:33 pm

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:45 pm

Best form is to have ika unvote so Ika can hammer

But no I don't think anything better is going to happen Today and SH is a good shot at scum.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:48 pm

I'd kind of like to narrow down who I want to shoot at tonight (or if I want to at all).

But thats pretty much the only thing I care about still.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:44 pm

In post 1034, theelkspeaks wrote:killerjester was also Krushed, but it turns out that he was actually one of the corrupted minions! He was Loatheb, a Roleblocker.

Spoiler:

The pleasure is mine.

Well met!

My magic will tear you apart!

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:00 pm

I'm not sure, my best guess is Ika.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:04 pm

Its possible he was a 1-shot Roleblocker.

Elk said that he generally doesn't flip modifiers like that. Prawn flipped without his claimed 1-shot restriction.

Thats my best guess. Either that or they were betting I'd shoot town which is complete lolz if that is the case.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:15 pm

I tried to shoot KB night 1.

I was about to shoot freek N2 but I thought better of it and switched to KJ right after that first submit.

I followed your suggestion of shooting on the wagon since SH flipped town. His hop onto the Sonic wagon looked really bad compared to everyone else. Grib has been more or less town all game. Ika is town. KB wasn't a serious consideration for me. I figured if they were scum I'd be blocked again (assuming scum had another RB shot) since I shot them N1 and they led the SH wagon.

So it was kind of PoE shot. FTR, I think Freek is town. My initial submit on them was just me having a hard time dropping that scumread from D1, but I think they are town.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:32 pm

In post 1051, dragonspawn wrote:I'm stupid they did have a role blocker. Dang it I'm tired tonight

Huh? When did you say otherwise?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:39 pm

My reads

Town: Ika, Freek. Ika spent like the first 2 weeks of the game voting KJ. I guess it could be a bus-vote but wow. Freek's handling of the SH wagon was SO cheeky if scum. SO cheeky. I don't think they;'d have made posts like 1017 as scum. Possible, but eh. I also don't think their position on the wagon relative to KJ is likely from buddies.

Probably Town, but reserving some caution: KB. I'm tempted to say that me not being RB'd means they are likely town. Scum would probably assume I'd shoot them again since I did N1 and they led the SH wagon. That said, I think for flavor and setup reasons that KJ could very likely have been a 1-shot roleblocker so that spec is meaningless :/. Still I lean town on their push on SH and I think that them asking me to shoot on the wagon with them and KJ is a bit ridiculous from scum. Mehhh.

Scum be here somewhere: Dragon, Tere, Dan, Reck.

hurray.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:55 pm

In post 1056, ActionDan wrote:Actually I lied. I went over gribs posts but there aren't any good crumbs.

Ap, did you ever claim flavor? I'm a bit curious

AngryPidgeon · Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:30 pm

Loooool, ya I'm totally shocked that Reck is throwing doubt on my slot to cash in at some point in the future.

Fuck that.

And ya Dragonspawn, your team is going to have to kill me.

AngryPidgeon · Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:20 pm

Ika that is some shitty setup spec.

AngryPidgeon · Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:20 pm

Reck is still scum.

Dragon is getting questionable.

AngryPidgeon · Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:09 pm

I don't have another vig shot.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:30 am

Yes Ika is town.

But anyone speculating that a 1xVig is fake in a setup with a 1xVig inventor is wrong or scum.

Im not 100% sure what to make of Dragonspawn's claim just yet as far as setup spec/balance goes.

Unfortunately modifiers not flipping makes the balance a little bit hard to work out. Like I'm ~guessing~ that most roles in the game are 1-shot roles. Dragons flavor makes sense as a 1-shot bulletproof. KJ not blocking me loosely suggest he had only one shot. Prawn was a 1-shot.

Also my flavor, KJs flavor, Prawns flavor, and Dragons flavor heavily suggest 1-shot roles. Not so sure about Grib since that role was weird for the flavor.

But a gaggle of 1-shot roles for town power makes a ton of sense so far.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:34 am

In post 1080, ika wrote:sounds about right like this, im not doing full in deph spec AP so the fact you are calling my minimal setup spec shitty is laughable. if i wanted to really go into setup spec i would do muhc more heavy anasis on it

And yes the minimal-ness of it is what makes it shitty.

Why are you so sure Dragon is town?

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:58 am

Which game was that?

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:59 am

And clearly Im not trying to shut jackshit down if Im talking about it myself.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:07 am

In post 1090, ika wrote:jingles lost room game.

That was purely because the mod made a broken game in which a 3-rd party role had 3 innocent results on townies and a wincon that let him win with the town.

There was literally no way to win other than getting people to not trust him.

And by that I mean there was literally no way to win.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:18 am

I think that would be too much scum power maybe?

Im definitely leaning town on Dragon right now because having a hard counter to two town PRs is kind of wack, but not sure about that at all. his posts in the last two Days have made me a little concerned.

Of course if Grib was a full cop then that would actually make a fair amount of sense for scum power.

This makes me want to have everyone claim x or full-shot (with VTs claiming whatever) just so we get more info on death but mmmm. Grib being a big ??? is already going to throw stuff off a little for me.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:28 am

Reck are you still town on Dan?

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:59 am

I dunno, my townread on him is a bit stale. I don't remember him saying anything about SH or the counterwagon for it. The votepark on Dragon is weird.

He barely said anything about KJ and only talked to him once. The couple things he did say used the word 'innocuous' in reference to him when ika voted him. That said, Im not sure why he exclaimed that KJ was a good shot (other than that he obviously is confirmed scum now) since he evidently didnt think much about KJ at all.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:00 pm

VOTE: Tere

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:32 pm

Id lynch Tere over Reck atm.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:19 am

In post 1119, Tere wrote:(emphasis mine, in fact I am wondering if that capital D isn't a typo and is flagging that he viewed ika)

That is a convention that people use to signify game-day rather than reallife-day. I do it myself a lot and often capitalize Day when I dont intend to subconsciously.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:44 am

Its like they are playing a good-cop/bad-cop routine. BRantz is the good cop if that wasnt clear.

AngryPidgeon · Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:07 pm

In post 1140, Krystal Bald wrote:Also apparently we're the only ones responsible for Sonic's mislynch lololol

Uhhh I mean ya, kinda.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:01 am

In post 1144, Tere wrote:
In post 1134, AngryPidgeon wrote:Its like they are playing a good-cop/bad-cop routine. BRantz is the good cop if that wasnt clear.

This post I totally chimed with and it made me laugh but what do you make of it? Do you think it is scummy?

No, it was mostly just an observation. I certainly don't think Freek is blatantly coordinating like that as scum. I have been in hydras where my partner and I felt differently about things and my partner voted without really consulting me (mastin!, *shakes fist*).

In post 1146, Tere wrote:Looking through my ISO as I write I think it's clear that I have been reading even if I didn't lay out every single thought process in my town to scum list. I'm not going to apologise for that, I spent several hours working on the game yesterday and I think that's clear. This push here feels a bit weak and forced and I no likey.

What push are you talking about?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:07 am

In post 1151, Tere wrote:If you are so sure I'm scum are you happy to gladiate with me? Because I'd be totally up for that.

Are you even scumreading KB?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:59 am

I'm kind of in the same boat as KB right now.

I agree that Dan has been coasting. I was honestly expecting more from him after his wall when I replaced in. Since then though, there has been only really minimal proof that he is following along with the game at all. He didn't see my flavor the first time I claimed it. Him later asking about it and not going anywhere with it or doing much other than ISOing KJ (supposedly, he didn't really draw any interesting conclusions from it) just looks really like token effort which is scummy. His reaction to KJ being shot looked like scum-posturing to me.

Reck's townread on Dan perplexes me a bit. I get that he had it, I thought Dan looked really good around 195. His analysis looked deep rather than just passing superficial judgments on posts. Unfortunately that was kind of the peak of his posting?; I was hoping to see something from Reck about Dan's recent posts which frankly have been underwhelming. Not making any effort to clarify or update that read besides "Ya I thought Dan was town, why shouldn't I?" looked more like an attempt to remain consistent with his previous read than to actually discuss/develop it at all. I know Reck is capable of reaching out to people, I saw him do it in The Reckoning. I've never been in a game where Reck was scum but I have read a couple and been somewhat consistent at identifying it. I'm not really ~feeling~ it here, but Im also not seeing his towngame, with the read on Dan really sticking out to me right now.

This brings me around to Tere who I'm not really sold on at all right now. Tere's posts have all read extremely self-aware and appeasing. Posts like 1144 and 1149 are kinda cozying up to me and Reck a bit. Going through ISOs one by one doesn't really show me that Tere is approaching the game organically and ties into my perception that shes rather self-aware. The apologizing for Klazam and going through every question directed at him in the neighborhood doesn't really accomplish anything and I'd expect that someone trying to get into the game wouldn't really think to invest time doing that off the bat. The ISO of Dan is really wishy-washy and stating that Dan needs to get in here is pretty much a non-conclusion that looks pro-town on the surface. Reck (and others) calling Tere's entrance town bothers me because effort doesn't mean alignment at all, at least not the specific effort that I am seeing in this instance which isn't showing me any clear path or progression. It looks more like a shotgun blast.

I'm not really interested in Dragonspawn right now. I thought his vote on Freek after me calling freek town is more likely to come from someone who think Freek is scum than someone who is just trying to get a mislynch. Ika is still town. I do agree that either me or Ika was likely the investigate from Grib, but Ika is town that aside.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:35 am

Ugh UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Reck

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:31 am

In post 1173, ika wrote:AP, shes town. i dont see scum!tere going though all this anlysis

Is there a meta reason for thinking this? If so a link would be cool.

In post 1177, ika wrote:put yourself in her shoes, how would you feel to do huge walls like that only for poeple be like "meh whatever" and proceed to lynch you?

That would be true for either alignment though.

In post 1180, Tere wrote:Ugh. I feel a wave of bland washing over me.

Don't talk to me for a bit Mantis. Go away. I want to reread and ISO you. We have almost 3 weeks.

:/
I was kind of liking your build up to this, but now you are just excusing yourself from the previous sentiments about 1v1ing them and being defeatist.

In post 1194, the freekazoid wrote:In still happy with my reck vote.
His scum reads are what exactly?
Anyone?

Same. I'm the only scumread of his that I can think of and even that is "AP might be an SK" which is a) wrong and b) not attempting to find remaining mafia at all.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:26 am

In post 1220, dragonspawn wrote:Blah blah blah. Lots of talk no real substance lately.

Stunningly how I feel about this.

In post 1226, Tere wrote:That little scripted dialogue between Krystal and dragon made me think we lynch that and we're good. And if we're not, fuck this town.

What in the 7 planes of fuckery was scripted about Dragon making a generic comment about nothing interesting happening? And how does that remotely make him a buddy to KB?

In post 1264, Krystal Bald wrote:yea, because freekazoid is def town.

dan prob is too,

Why Dan?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:28 am

I can't believe I read those last few pages.

I want my hour back.

Way too many personalities flying around the thread right now.

Ika's defense of tere has me concerned even though I find his points relatable.

I'm off to the gym, I need to let all these recent posts simmer in my head.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 1305, the freekazoid wrote:*shakes head* Well I am really glad Tere came in and self destructed the game...

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:28 pm

Reck lynch for great justice.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:30 pm

I'll read this tomorrow. Sorry had a hell of a day.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:54 am

I want to see someone in the Tere slot.

Dan (now Mac) is scummy for reasons I mentioned earlier. Activity falling off a cliff. Not following along at all, asks me for my flavor after I already said it and then doesn't do anything with it. His replace out post was basically "Sorry but I'm scum" I mean holy crap.

Ika is still town although the whiteknighting of Tere definitely made me a bit queasy and him declaring to not play the game after Tere left contributed to that a bit. My firm townread here is shaken though.

Reck and Mac are my top two right now. Reck defending Dan so much looks suspicious to be sure.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:16 pm

In post 1341, dragonspawn wrote:I tend to agree with reck. The case on him is weak at best. Maybe someone can provide a better one. Lynching him is better than a no lynch but I really would like mac or freek lynched today

What the fuck.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:59 pm

Ok not much new has really happened. Reck still looks scummy to me.

I know Kb asked me a while ago if I was getting paranoid about Freek and I never really answered. I am definitely feeling a bit hazy about the game state right now after the Tere situation. I'm eagerly awaiting RationalMadman's reads and opinion on the game state. Im not as convinced on Freek's townieness as I was at the forefront of the Day, but that has a lot to do with how muddy everything feels right now in general. I'm more concerned about Dragon than them right now. Dragon's last few posts haven't made much sense to me. Im not sure what happened around 1341 and 1343. Can you clarify? Also not sure why Dragon is voting freek when Mac has more support over all. Great that you are showing initiative and whatnot, but Im a bit concerned that Dragon's recent stances are kind of posturing.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:39 am

In post 1356, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1352, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ok not much new has really happened. Reck still looks scummy to me.

WHY AP WHY THE FUCK PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS INSTEAD OF HARPING ON IT INCESSANTLY WITH NO THOUGHT OR CASE

I think your read on Dan's slot was really stale, and I didn't really like that you put in no effort to talk to me about him when I brought him up. Your response was basically "Well Dan was town so he still is", which I wouldn't care about, but Dan's ISO was pretty damn sparse in review. You didn't even try and sell me on it, it felt like your objective there was to just remain internally consistent with your previous read on Dan. If you are just being lazy, then ok but don't expect me to think that is a reasonable excuse for not doing town-looking things in a mafia game.

I never really understood your vote on KB on Day 2. Sonic was getting wagoned and you opted to just vote KB instead. Why? It looks like you were posturing or just trying to have your vote on a different wagon. If I knew why you didn't want to vote Sonic then I might understand the vote. Do you still think KB is scummy? Your lack of vote Today doesn't really make a ton of sense if you think KB is the best wagon. Maybe I'm just a moron (or lost in the Tere-implosion) but I can't really recall who you want to lynch except that you think I might be an SK which

I'm not.
Your most prominent opinion involves SK-hunting and not mafia-hunting which is a red flag.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:47 am

In post 1362, the freekazoid wrote:Looking through Mac posting record I wouldnt be shocked if he flipped scum,

This is like the most generic post ever. What about Mac's posting is scummy to you?

Ya, I've been wavering on DS occasionally in my head but hes town. Lets not lynch him.

@Mac: I only had one shot.

God if the Tere-slot and KB are scum together I will shit my shorts. But I guess Im not willing to say they aren't at this point.

AngryPidgeon · Fri May 01, 2015 9:38 am

I don't really have anything else to add. I'll lynch Mac if thats what is on the docket Today.

KB, what is your current opinion on Ika? I guess I'm getting loosely concerned that my townread there was hasty and then supported by confirmation bias. Basically think Dragon and Freek are town enough for now.

AngryPidgeon · Fri May 01, 2015 8:35 pm

In post 1375, RationalMadman wrote:
In post 1369, Krystal Bald wrote:Would you be interested in starting a bandwagon on RationalMadman, Mac?

LMFAO OMGUS central literlaly worst rxn to a vote on you ever.

I'm drunk as shit right now but holy shit those post.

Holy shit. This post.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 5:38 am

In post 1446, Krystal Bald wrote:i promise you, i will not fall for your pleads that dragonspawn is scum.. this time!

Are you guys sync'd on this read or should I expect tiding s of dissonance in the near future?

In post 1448, the freekazoid wrote:We are Savannah Highmane, Town Tracker.

So it seems that RMM is confirmed town. Unless mafia have a ninja which would be lame, and unlikely.

In post 1454, dragonspawn wrote:Ill have to think this over.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 5:44 am

Ok so we have 6 players alive.

AP: Fire elemental, 1-shot Vig
Freek: Savannah Highmane, Tracker
Dragonspawn: Shieldbot, 1-shot? BP
Rational: ???, VT? <- visited nobody on night 3
Reck: ???, ???
KB: ???, ???

Did I miss KB's claim at some point? Also I got neighborized last night along with Reck. So one of Reck/KB is pretty clearly a nehighborizer.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 5:48 am

I still think we should massclaim. I don'r particularly care on the order, but KB, Reck, and RM should claim.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 5:56 am

In post 1470, dragonspawn wrote:Freek said he tracked grib to you night two. Not grib to ika night 1

Yes, the point is that they think Freek is lying

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 10:29 am

In post 1488, dragonspawn wrote:So you think he is a scum tracker?

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 09, 2015 11:19 am

In post 1498, xRECKONERx wrote:Nope

I'm War Golem, VT

I was wondering what you would claim. I remember townreading you for softclaiming your flavor in your confirm post. War Golem certainly is a crappy card.

In post 1505, dragonspawn wrote:I freely admit not being neighborhood. But if I'm a scum neighborhood how could I do a nk and neighborize on the same night?

Starting to wonder if all of these excuses are just scum excuses.

--

I'm wondering if the neighborize thing is just a setup mechanic and not anybody's role? Maybe the mod is just randomly neighborizing 2 people every night. I'd be surprised if someone in the game had an N0 action.

AngryPidgeon · Mon May 11, 2015 8:12 am

In post 1550, Krystal Bald wrote:dragonspawn is literally 100% caught. I don't understand why he hasn't been lynched yet.

Did I miss something in the last 24 hours or is this about the neighborizer shenanigans still?

AngryPidgeon · Mon May 11, 2015 8:14 am

In post 1546, Krystal Bald wrote:Random mechanics are bastard and therefore impossible.
The first two neighbors were above and below dragonspawn on the playerlist. There are like a million cards that do that kind of thing.

Uhhhhh, no?

A random neighborize every night is not really bastard. Bastard is shit like cults and lying to players in their role PMs. A neighborize that isn't part of a roll is just quirky.

What was the flavor of your neighborhood? Reck and I's mentions something about being invited to the inn which frankly looks like a game mechanic to me based on flavor. I cant think what card would possibly do that.

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 12, 2015 12:26 pm

In post 1568, xRECKONERx wrote:Wait...how do you know he was a one-shot RB???

I've been speculating that he was 1-shot since as far as we know no one was blocked on N2.

In post 1573, xRECKONERx wrote:uhhh if people were x-shot they'd flip x-shot

this isn't a partial reveal game unless im just not seeing it

It is a partial reveal game, the mod mentioned before that he doesn't flip modifiers. I think its in the Night 1 update post but Im too lazy to look for it.

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 12, 2015 12:27 pm

But like Prawn claimed 1-shot vig giver and he flipped just plain vig giver. So its pretty clear there are some shenanigans with flips.

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 12, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 1577, xRECKONERx wrote:If KB is scum, the 1-shot RB thing was a slip.

Maybe...I think KB has been relatively consistent about that but Im not going to ISO them to confirm.

In post 1587, Krystal Bald wrote:That's it guys, guess it's time for me to come clean. I'm actually an Explosive Sheep, and my role is Mega-Saint. When I die, I kill all the scum and win.

There, now I'm confirmed town, because why on Azeroth would I claim that as scum?

Oh, I'm actually Foe Reaper 5000 and I can kill 3 adjacent people on the player list every night.

obviously im confirmed scum now because i wouldn't claim that as town

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 12, 2015 12:36 pm

Ok VOTE: Dragonspawn

L - 1.

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 12, 2015 12:41 pm

Reasons: The dichotomy between freek and KB doesn't really make sense.
I agree that Dragon is probably not a neighborizer, but his defense really seems to be strawmanning on that point a lot. Reck has pointed out that obviously if there is a scum neighborizer then they are killing and doing that on the same night. I think the neighborizer is just a total red herring fwiw.
PR makes sense for scum to have. Giving mafia a counter to two town roles here balances the setup a lot. (So he probably actually is a mafia BP). Some bullshit like Al'Akir or something, who knows.
Dans push on Dragon looked really fake.

AngryPidgeon · Wed May 13, 2015 6:41 am

This whole conversation is pretty much irrelevant.

AngryPidgeon · Wed May 13, 2015 12:49 pm

lol.

I mean yes it is because I'm town and people still speculating otherwise are wasting time.

But I mean also where are you going with this? You think I would shoot you if I were an SK because ???? And you didn't just PM the mod about it. We got an answer though, so evidently this entire thing is moot.

AngryPidgeon · Mon May 18, 2015 4:48 am

In post 1627, xRECKONERx wrote:holy shit this game is eternal

The mod must be Mal ganis.

AngryPidgeon · Mon May 18, 2015 4:49 am

I don't really have anything to add. is the replacement happening or not?

AngryPidgeon · Mon May 18, 2015 12:57 pm

FailFish = This Game (no space)

AngryPidgeon · Tue May 19, 2015 5:24 am

^ farside?

AngryPidgeon · Wed May 20, 2015 5:37 am

In post 1662, the freekazoid wrote:My theory about the sk is more so AP wanting to lynch dragon when he's had very little to say about dragon as scum.

???

Your claim made a big difference in the game state. I think Dragonspawn's role makes a lot of sense as a scum counter to 2 different things. Assuming Grib is x-shot, it makes the setup looks somewhat balanced. I really don't believe that we have

1xBP
1xVig Inventor
1xVig
1/2?xCop
Tracker

vs

1x?RB
Goon
???

That is a lot of good town power. Now move the 1xBP down to the mafia team and suddenly the setup looks more or less balanced.

I don't really think your slot is scum right now since claiming Tracker would have only made sense as a ploy to get a PR mislynched which you aren't trying to do. (Mostly) clearing the Tere-slot is a pretty pro-town thing to do and is going to put a lot of pressure on you if you make it to lylo/mylo. I mean you'd have to explain why you are alive and also would have to clear people or claim there is some sort of ninja around.

Pretty sure its just Dragon.

KB is still town and I don't get your push on them. Because they think you are a scum tracker? lol. Come on. Reck concerns me a little bit, but I'd worry about that Tomorrow if I have to.

AngryPidgeon · Wed May 20, 2015 7:41 am

In post 1678, Jingle wrote:You should probably claim your Vig target beforehand to prevent "oh no, I tracked the dead guy!"

I'm only 1-shot. I was blocked by KJ on Night 1. I killed KJ on Night 2.

AngryPidgeon · Wed May 20, 2015 8:09 am

Well Played?

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 23, 2015 6:27 pm

I'm in orlamdo. And drunk. But Uhhhh ya. Fuck.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 23, 2015 6:29 pm

Basically as I see it, we are Choosing between reck and kb. Unless jingle is some sort oof ninja which would be horseshit and make him less likely to kill freek maybe

AngryPidgeon · Sun May 24, 2015 8:16 am

I do want to think about the ninja possibility a little bit. It'd be shitty to lose to a ninja clear.

But also I won't feel too bad about losing to jingle if he is a ninja. Setup is already pretty wack either way as Reck is saying.

AngryPidgeon · Thu May 28, 2015 6:28 am

In post 1712, Jingle wrote:Oh, also, because it came up earlier, I'd just like to take the opportunity to apologize again for the shitshow that was Lost Room, AP.

<3

AngryPidgeon · Thu May 28, 2015 6:32 am

In post 1723, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1719, Krystal Bald wrote:reck - would you actually be able to talk with me about the possibility of it being AP?

AP confirmed he was the one who killed KJ... how could it possibly be AP?

If it's 2:1:10 which would make the setup even dumber than 3:10 here. Also no.

AngryPidgeon · Thu May 28, 2015 6:35 am

In post 1725, Krystal Bald wrote:
In post 1723, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1719, Krystal Bald wrote:reck - would you actually be able to talk with me about the possibility of it being AP?

AP confirmed he was the one who killed KJ... how could it possibly be AP?

The Innkeeper makes sense as an SK, which would seem to implicate AP. But I think you just scumslipped by forgetting about the possibility of an SK.

Vote: xRECKONERx.

Are you joking right now? Trying to pin the neighborhood on your current suspicion is getting really stupid.

AngryPidgeon · Thu May 28, 2015 6:36 am

KB is probably scum.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:38 am

Mantis is still prob scum. Flying home today, will post when I'm not at as n airport.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:40 am

In post 1743, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 1741, xRECKONERx wrote:Uhhh so you think AP is a mafia vigilante?

no, i was thinking SK/inkeeper

What's stupid is you probably actually believe this read.

It's hilarious that you somehow think this is a 1:2:10 setup.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:42 am

And by that I mean KB is Mafia. Probably voting me because they might lose if I am scum. Blatantly scummy bullshit is blatant.

No townie in this game could reasonably think it's 1 2 10 given the flips.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:45 am

But here they are making some flavor case on me when I'm a proven role and not bothering to look at how backwards the setup is in the world they are currently pushing.

Or this is just a last minute hurrah to appeal to Reck after cheerleading me to join his wagon earlier.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:47 am

If you really think I'm an SK, then let's no lynch today.

Dear god I thought I'd never propose a NL in my life.

But if you actually think I'm an sk, then why not consider that this is 1:1:2 and go for the best town play (NL)?

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 3:51 am

I mean holy shit.

Also it's convenient that freek died and was sure you were maf. Yes I know farside said my push on DS looked sk motivated, but it wasn't.

Anyone who thinks I'd sit on my thumbs and Jack off every night as an anti town role is wrong.

If we NL I pretty much just expect Jingle to die, but if KB really wants to throw shade at me like this, then let's address it properly.

AngryPidgeon · Sat May 30, 2015 6:27 am

I'm totally aware that freek was a claimed pr, lol.

AngryPidgeon · Sun May 31, 2015 6:13 am

In post 1756, Mantisdreamz wrote:i didn't like AP's non reaction to this post:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6891110

Because?

Ya pardon me for not responding to a post in all caps cheerleading me to vote in what is effectively a lylo situation.

AngryPidgeon · Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:12 am

I'm here. I'll make a good post as soon as Im not at work.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:27 pm

In post 1785, Jingle wrote:

AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

Yea, thats pretty much where I'm at.

sorry for being flaky; this game is a tidal wave of apathy. I keep forgetting it exists.

I think its KB. If its Reck, then he did a good job distancing from his buddies. If its Jingle then that sucks and the setup is already pretty bleh but ya.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:33 pm

In post 1785, Jingle wrote:

AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

Did you want to talk about anything in specific? Because at this point I think I'm ready to hammer and I don't really have much to add. Pretty confident this is it.

AngryPidgeon · Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:34 pm

So ya intent to hammer tomorrow sometime if you don't have anything to say; I'd like to at least give Jingle a few hours if there is something to say.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:27 am

VOTE: Krystal Bald /Mantis

AngryPidgeon · Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:27 am

So now we wait...

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:44 am

@Elk: Thanks for hosting the game anyhow. I've never been more excited about flavor for a game than this one : P

Also, I am actually pretty damn proud of my play here and I am sad that apathy consumed this game. I found Tere's bout in this game to be really really unprofessional (for lack of a better term) and I think her behavior did a lot towards killing this game. Also I'm sorry Mantis/KB, I was being a little blatantly pushy/scummy in the last Day phase because I was scum and actually had the win in striking distance.

The entire game I kept really carefully trying to lynch precisely town or scum at the right junctures in order to set up a perfect situation that wouldn't confirm me as scum in endgame. It was a long path and I definitely got a bit lucky. ITs the most in-advance planning I've ever had to do as scum though and I managed it so ya. Not to applaud myself too much, but I WAS really trying this game even if my late-game apathy made that less apparent.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:07 am

In post 1819, Jingle wrote:I am sorry, KB, and I came close to voting reck. Also AP, you're a dick. You should've hammered when the quickhammer ensured your win. Dick.

Yaaaa, I did kind of want to lynch scum though. I was afraid of there being a mafia BP in the game or something. Would have been super awk if Reck and I X-killed and got into a 3p lylo with you.